Change of heart on socialized medicine

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pathia said:
I do not want to move, the majority of my friends and family are in the US. I will be losing almost everything I’ve ever had, all connections, everything. It’s hardly a ‘want’. I simply appear to have no other choice.
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Again if your motive is you don’t want to move it is hardly as critical as you are making it out to be.
 
aspawloski4th said:
The Healthcare reform thats being debated right now in congress, should get (name removed by moderator)ut from doctors, nurses, and other medically related professionals. Accountants, insurance idustrey,and other money type, should only be taken with a grain of salt at best if at all. They had their way enough, now it’s time to get reason back in to healthcare and the business world out of it.
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So I wonder if all of those over paid lawyers are listending to what Ron Paul has to say.
 
royal_archer said:
Then propose a system that actually lowers cost not just encourages more people to stop working. Unfortunately the one going through congress is nothing more than an attempt to shift money from those who earned it to those who voted for Obama.

Medicare, social security and other ponsi schemes all work till the supply of gulible individuals runs out.
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Well you have to play with the cards that you are dealt out! There is one ponzi scheme or at least close to it that you forgot, The Feederal REserve System. Guess what JFK tryed to get rid of it and look at where he is now. Your taxes are going to be the same healthcare refore or no healthcare reform.
 
aspawloski4th said:
GI bill! And that not even debateble. You mis the point with my grandmother, who happens to be 87 by the way. Anyone who is a well trained nurse would do, the one I happen to know well is my grandmother, for my wife it would be a cousin of her’s. I was refering to what my grandmother taught me about her field of work over the years , not how well she could do the job today. I can’t believe I have to explain that point to anyone, it should go without saying.
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GI’s EARNED it.
 
royal_archer said:
Thank God for all of the blessings in life and stop trying to demand others solve your problems.
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I thought stuff was earned, hmm either things are a blessing or it's earned. You can't have it both ways. When you comepare me to the average American, blessed I am not. You are telling me in essence to be happy that I just exist. Shame on you!
 
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I have to give it to you guys… You are both very persistent!

But I’m afraid I’m just gonna have to agree with royal archer here… :whistle:

No offense Aspawloski4th.
 
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I have to give it to you guys… You are both very persistent!

But I’m afraid I’m just gonna have to agree with royal archer here… :whistle:

No offense Aspawloski4th.
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In truth if we make health care accessable based on wealth, we are devaluing life to coincide with the value of the buck which is worthless by the way because it’s not backedd by gold. So while you are entitled to your opinions you have no right to complain about the USA being a culture of death.
 
royal_archer said:
Again if your motive is you don’t want to move it is hardly as critical as you are making it out to be.
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I will slowly die here, I’m not entirely sure how that is not ‘critical’. Do I want to move? No. Will I move if it will keep me alive, yes, which is what I am doing. I’ll be very sporadic soon, because I’ll be moving out within the month.
 
pathia said:
I will slowly die here, I’m not entirely sure how that is not ‘critical’. Do I want to move? No. Will I move if it will keep me alive, yes, which is what I am doing. I’ll be very sporadic soon, because I’ll be moving out within the month.
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When you arrive at your new destination, make hay of why you moved. If health suffering is good enough for you in the eyes the the royal archer types then the suffering of embarassment is good enough for the USA. And Americans will have nobody to blame but themselves.
 
aspawloski4th said:
In truth if we make health care accessable based on wealth, we are devaluing life…
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Agreed… However, I refuse to settle for some second rate “Government run” healthcare system, even if it means people have to pay their way until we come up with the proper plan.

I see more future problems on this path than its worth. I cannot accept it willingly.
aspawloski4th said:
So while you are entitled to your opinions you have no right to complain about the USA being a culture of death.
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I have never accused the USA of being a culture of death.

Rather, I accuse atheism and its ignorance of God as the culture of death which is spreading rapidly upon the world. This death is a spiritual and everlasting death.
 
aspawloski4th said:
When you arrive at your new destination, make hay of why you moved. If health suffering is good enough for you in the eyes the the royal archer types then the suffering of embarassment is good enough for the USA. And Americans will have nobody to blame but themselves.
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If that is true, then no one would go to Canada or England, because many of their citizens come to our country for care.

People from Canada regularly come to the US for care. In fact, there are hospitals in Canada that SEND their patients here for care. :eek: It is hard to believe that people in the US want that type of care.
 
maryjk said:
If that is true, then no one would go to Canada or England, because many of their citizens come to our country for care.

People from Canada regularly come to the US for care. In fact, there are hospitals in Canada that SEND their patients here for care. :eek: It is hard to believe that people in the US want that type of care.
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Better than none at all or loosing your home for it.
 
maryjk said:
If that is true, then no one would go to Canada or England, because many of their citizens come to our country for care.

People from Canada regularly come to the US for care. In fact, there are hospitals in Canada that SEND their patients here for care. :eek: It is hard to believe that people in the US want that type of care.
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I’m moving out of my country, the USA in this case, because I simply cannot get care here.
 
aspawloski4th said:
Better than none at all or loosing your home for it.
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What is better than none at all? None at all? Because that is what happens in Canada. I will have to link the news link, but there are towns in Canada that you need to schedule the birth of your child one YEAR in advance. How is that better than none at all? I guess women should have their babies at home then when the child is 3 months they can be checked out.
 
maryjk said:
What is better than none at all? None at all? Because that is what happens in Canada. I will have to link the news link, but there are towns in Canada that you need to schedule the birth of your child one YEAR in advance. How is that better than none at all? I guess women should have their babies at home then when the child is 3 months they can be checked out.
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You comparing us to one country. Most of the rest of the countries dont have Canada’s problem. Even Switzerland who societal model we were originally based on has the socalled scoialized medicine. Funny thing the deathrate at birth for us is higher than other 1st world countries and our life expectantcy isn’t anywhere near the top anymore. The neocons posting in this thred are so worried about freedom, I don’t find very much freedom in loosing one’s home because one has cancer treatment.
 
pathia said:
I will slowly die here, I’m not entirely sure how that is not ‘critical’. Do I want to move? No. Will I move if it will keep me alive, yes, which is what I am doing. I’ll be very sporadic soon, because I’ll be moving out within the month.
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But you have an option to move or die and you have been choosing death over moving. Not paying for your medical care does not condemn you to death, it is condemning you to moving.
 
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