Changing Rites

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I’ve searched for a thread on this, but was unsuccessful.

I don’t recall where I heard such, but is it true a Catholic can only change rites once?

Thanks in advance. 🙂
 
You can join any Catholic rite. The Church isn’t just Latin, it is an union of different rites.
 
Rarer_Way_Prior said:
I’ve searched for a thread on this, but was unsuccessful.

I don’t recall where I heard such, but is it true a Catholic can only change rites once?

Thanks in advance. 🙂
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It’s not explicitly forbidden, but it is strongly discouraged.

Specific cases of switch and return that are permitted: children of one who switched may, at their majority, return to their rite of baptism without prejudice for future change.
Wives who change to the rite of their husband may return to the rite of their baptism upon the end of the marriage by death or annulment.
 
Aramis said:
It’s not explicitly forbidden, but it is strongly discouraged.

Specific cases of switch and return that are permitted: children of one who switched may, at their majority, return to their rite of baptism without prejudice for future change.
Wives who change to the rite of their husband may return to the rite of their baptism upon the end of the marriage by death or annulment.
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Thanks. 🙂
 
Not exactly. Nor would I necessarily agree with an above post that a change of particular ritual Church for a layman is automatically discouraged by Rome.

For any Latin Catholic who desires a change of particular ritual Churches for positive spiritual reasons and assuming there are no impediments (pending holy orders in another Church, etc.) the consent of the Holy See is presumed. That being said, the local bishops involved (the receiving Eastern and the releasing Latin bishop) still have to agree.

A second or third transfer, while not impossible, will be scrutinized much more closely by the bishops and chanceries involved. I’ve only heard of a second and never of a third for a layman, but I suppose there are one or two out there.
 
Diak said:
A second or third transfer, while not impossible, will be scrutinized much more closely by the bishops and chanceries involved. I’ve only heard of a second and never of a third for a layman, but I suppose there are one or two out there.
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I believe that’s what he was referring to above, or at least that’s what I got out of it.

Thanks for clarifying anyway. 🙂
 
You don’t “change rites”.

You change enrollment in a sui juris church.
 
bpbasilphx said:
You don’t “change rites”.

You change enrollment in a sui juris church.
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I’m very aware of these things. I simply couldn’t find an answer to this. It was in the back of my mind for quite a while, and whenever I looked I couldn’t find. I wish I could remember where I heard it in the first place.
 
Rarer_Way_Prior said:
I’m very aware of these things. I simply couldn’t find an answer to this. It was in the back of my mind for quite a while, and whenever I looked I couldn’t find. I wish I could remember where I heard it in the first place.
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Then if you were “very aware” of this, why did you use the inaccurate expression “changing rites”?
 
bpbasilphx said:
Then if you were “very aware” of this, why did you use the inaccurate expression “changing rites”?
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They are basically one in the same. In fact, I almost never say the latter and probably won’t in the future, except where formalities occur, as always. Now, thanks for your “help,” but you seem to be focused on hostile communication, and I already got the answer I was looking for. “Thanks.”
 
When would you need to change what rite you are enrolled in?
What are you allowed to do in a rite you are not enrolled in?
 
Diak said:
Not exactly. Nor would I necessarily agree with an above post that a change of particular ritual Church for a layman is automatically discouraged by Rome.

For any Latin Catholic who desires a change of particular ritual Churches for positive spiritual reasons and assuming there are no impediments (pending holy orders in another Church, etc.) the consent of the Holy See is presumed. That being said, the local bishops involved (the receiving Eastern and the releasing Latin bishop) still have to agree.

A second or third transfer, while not impossible, will be scrutinized much more closely by the bishops and chanceries involved. I’ve only heard of a second and never of a third for a layman, but I suppose there are one or two out there.
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So what if you are a Roman Rite Catholic, who wants to become part of an Eastern Catholic parish. Or what if that Roman Rite Catholic becomes part of the Eastern Rite parish and wants to be buried in the cemetery of the Eastern Rite parish they are a part of. Do they need to switch rites?.
 
bkovacs said:
So what if you are a Roman Rite Catholic, who wants to become part of an Eastern Catholic parish. Or what if that Roman Rite Catholic becomes part of the Eastern Rite parish and wants to be buried in the cemetery of the Eastern Rite parish they are a part of. Do they need to switch rites?.
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No, not usually. But changing church of canonical enrollment (because you change churches, not rites, tho’ it usually involves crossing a rite boundary as well) can contribute to one’s identity, and does make one obligated by the calendar of the new church, rather than the old.

The only sacrament restricted to one’s rite according to one’s church of enrollment is ordination. You can’t be ordained in a different rite.
 
So what if you are a Roman Rite Catholic, who wants to become part of an Eastern Catholic parish. Or what if that Roman Rite Catholic becomes part of the Eastern Rite parish and wants to be buried in the cemetery of the Eastern Rite parish they are a part of. Do they need to switch rites?.
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You don’t have to formally change enrollment in particular ritual Churches (or Churches sui iuris if you prefer that term) just to attend. Any Catholic can attend and receive the Sacraments in any Catholic Church. When the issue of enrollment becomes important is when dealing primarily with Holy Orders and marriages.

If after having some time to experience and study, you feel genuinely called to take on the spiritual, theological, liturgical, and sacramental life of that particular Church, the change of enrollment is there as a canonical option.
 
Diak said:
You don’t have to formally change enrollment in particular ritual Churches (or Churches sui iuris if you prefer that term) just to attend. Any Catholic can attend and receive the Sacraments in any Catholic Church. When the issue of enrollment becomes important is when dealing primarily with Holy Orders and marriages.

If after having some time to experience and study, you feel genuinely called to take on the spiritual, theological, liturgical, and sacramental life of that particular Church, the change of enrollment is there as a canonical option.
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Diak,
But what if you wanted to join an Eastern Catholic parish, and when you reposed, be buried at that same Eastern Catholic parish.
 
That provision can specifically be made by including it in your will and documenting your desires with the parish you wish to be buried in.

Declaring your intent to be buried in a specific Catholic parish of whatever particular tradition does not necessitate a transfer by itself. When you are reposed, transferring and the reasons for transferring (i.e. positive spiritual benefit)) are not really issues anymore.
 
Aramis said:
The only sacrament restricted to one’s rite according to one’s church of enrollment is ordination. You can’t be ordained in a different rite.
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Thank you for stating this. I believe this to be true also. Might you have refences to this? I will be needing them in a handful of years time when (God willing) I come up for ordination.
 
ByzCath said:
Thank you for stating this. I believe this to be true also. Might you have refences to this? I will be needing them in a handful of years time when (God willing) I come up for ordination.
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CCEO Canons 330, 343, 369, 377

Most explicitly:

Canon 343

Students, even if admitted into a seminary of another Church sui iuris, or into a common seminary for several Churches sui iuris, are to be formed in their own rite. Any custom to the contrary is reprobated.
intratext.com/IXT/ENG1199/_P9J.HTM
 
Old thread, but since what I want to add is faithful to the topic I thought I might revive it.

Aside from the letter and a good reason, are there any challenges to changing sui juris Churches? I heard someone mention that there may be some hostility from the members of the sui juris Church, especially the parish you’re in, if you’re of a different ethnic background?
 
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