chants

[a83192]

Can a scholar chant in Gregorian chant the entrance antiphon and the responsorial psalm in the OF Mass? It is done in the EF but can it be done in the OF?

 

[YoungTradCath]

Of course, although the Responsorial Psalm is really intended to be sung antiphonally. It really must be. If you want a meditative Psalm piece, use the Gradual instead.

The Introit, Offertory and Communion chants can most certainly be chanted by the schola. In fact it would be an unrealistic expectation for the people to sing them, IMO.

 

[aemcpa]

Can a scholar chant in Gregorian chant the entrance antiphon and the responsorial psalm in the OF Mass? It is done in the EF but can it be done in the OF?

The Vatican certainly thought so when they published the 1974 Graduale Romanum (available from GIA Publications). Although the previous poster is correct that the proper chant after the first reading is the Gradual, not the Responsorial Psalm. The Responsorial Psalm is the text in the Lectionary; the Gradual is the chant in the Graduale. The rubrics give the option to do one or the other.

 

[CharlesinCenCA]

@aemcpa
The only “fly in that ointment” is that if the scholar chants the antiphon in Latin (say from the Gregorian Missal) the congregation, at least, has the antiphon translated in their pulp or permanent vernacular missals. Having heard and read many screeds exhorting the purpose and efficacy of the gradual as a superior “vehicle” for the psalm, actually chanting it, likewise in Latin, does NOT enjoy the convenience of a vernacular translation. And, plus or minus, American Catholics are real sticklers for actual comprehension of all liturgical orations.
Now, if the cantor is chanting from the plethora of vernacular missals/graduals, that’s a whole other story.

 

[OraLabora]

Can a scholar chant in Gregorian chant the entrance antiphon and the responsorial psalm in the OF Mass? It is done in the EF but can it be done in the OF?

Schola.

Yes absolutely, our schola does so every month. The Latin propers are still to have pride of place for the OF Mass, and the same goes for Gregorian chant as the vehicle to convey the propers.

There is also another Gregorian option, the Graduale Simplex which has simpler antiphons for the propers to be chanted antiphonally, including the responsorial psalm. It’s intended for smaller churches or less experienced scholas, and I believe many of the antiphons are drawn from the Liturgy of the Hours.

However, licitly, the Introit, the Gradual (instead of the responsorial psalm), the Alleluia verse (or the tract during Lent), the Offertory and the Communion antiphon may all be chanted in Latin at the OF Mass, in addition to some sequences that have been retained as well.

In fact where I go to Mass every Sunday, a Benedictine monastery, the Propers and Ordinary are chanted in Gregorian chant every single day, in the OF. In Latin! (with a splash of Greek, the Kyrie).

 

[John_Lilburne]

There is a lot about chanting parts of the Mass in a recent article “The Renaissance of the Mass Propers” at catholicworldreport.com/Item/2039/the_renaissance_of_the_mass_propers.aspx#.UTpCR458sqY .

It includes:

“In addition, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops requested in 2001—and received from Rome in 2002—the permission to allow for the singing of the Entrance Antiphon and Communion Antiphon from the Roman Missal. In the Church’s liturgical discipline, these two antiphons are typically intended for recitation when there is no singing (GIRM, nos. 48, 87).”

 

[YoungTradCath]

There is a lot about chanting parts of the Mass in a recent article “The Renaissance of the Mass Propers” at catholicworldreport.com/Item/2039/the_renaissance_of_the_mass_propers.aspx#.UTpCR458sqY .

It includes:

“In addition, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops requested in 2001—and received from Rome in 2002—the permission to allow for the singing of the Entrance Antiphon and Communion Antiphon from the Roman Missal. In the Church’s liturgical discipline, these two antiphons are typically intended for recitation when there is no singing (GIRM, nos. 48, 87).”

I know, such a truly weird rubric.

 

[CharlesinCenCA]

I know, such a truly weird rubric.

But God be praised that folks like Paul Ford, Bruce Ford, Adam Bartlett, Frs. Weber and Kelly, and strophic paraphrasers like Tietze and Pluth (and likely others) have had the “temerity” to turn this oversight “lemon” into lemonade. They have provided the gateway to at least return to chanting as normative, and chanting the approved Latin chant/texts as welcomed even couched in a vernacular OF.

 

[YoungTradCath]

But God be praised that folks like Paul Ford, Bruce Ford, Adam Bartlett, Frs. Weber and Kelly, and strophic paraphrasers like Tietze and Pluth (and likely others) have had the “temerity” to turn this oversight “lemon” into lemonade. They have provided the gateway to at least return to chanting as normative, and chanting the approved Latin chant/texts as welcomed even couched in a vernacular OF.

No, what I mean is, the Introits and Communions in the Missal are different than those in the Gradual. They were never meant to be sung, but rather only to be said at spoken Masses.

 

[OraLabora]

No, what I mean is, the Introits and Communions in the Missal are different than those in the Gradual. They were never meant to be sung, but rather only to be said at spoken Masses.

Are you talking Sundays or weekdays? In my French missal the entrance antiphons are exactly the same psalm or scripture verses as the Roman Gradual. The Gradual does carry the same introits over to the weekdays with some exceptions.