Chapel Veil and Cantoring

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I’ve been discerning wearing a chapel veil at mass for a while as I think it’s a great way to show reverence and help stay focused on the meaning of Mass. Recently, I started to help out with cantoring, and am not sure if it’s odd to wear a chapel veil while singing in the choir or cantoring. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Any experience?
 
Let me start by saying I’m a pretty traditional male, but I think I’d wear a veil if I were a woman. While sitting in the pews at least. When I act as an altar boy I make sure to follow my priests instructions and preferences however. So if I were you, when acting in an office of the Church, I’d just ask the priest if he has any preference. If not, do whatever you like. 😊
 
I don’t see any reason why a woman could or should not wear a veil, or a hat, while in the choir or acting as a cantor, provided one used the same common sense criteria as with any other article of clothing or apparel. If for example your skirt was so extremely short that it distracted others --not with lust, but with its simply being so short that it ‘stood out’–you shouldn’t wear it. However, those things rest on the order of the fact that the ‘too short’ distracts the eye because it is not modest, not just because it is different.

That’s the thing. A woman going up wearing ankle length skirt or even pants, and a long sleeve top, while all the other women were wearing short dresses, would look ‘different’ just as much as one woman wearing a short dress would look different if standing among all the other women if they wore long pants/long sleeves, right? But people wouldn’t feel the same kind of visceral discomfort. Even if they thought virtue-shaming, "Why is that woman wearing such an obvious ‘virtuous’ outfit, she must be holier than thou, she’s making everybody uncomfortable’, those are all based on a perception that looking ‘modest’ is not just a fake claim, but a malicious stab at others.

But a woman wearing a really too short or otherwise inappropriate outfit --and this goes for men too–might do so out of simple ignorance, but even if one is charitable, saying, "at least they’re here’ or ‘that might be all they have’, one knows that the outfit itself is inappropriate, and one is distracted by it because of its being inappropriate. . .

as opposed to being ‘distracted’ by an appropriate attire when one is distracted not by the appropriateness but by one’s internalized judgment and condemnation of the wearer for simply, in the viewer’s MIND, not in FACT, appearing to ‘condemn’ others in some way. And this is often, very often, the mindset of those who criticize a woman for wearing a headcovering. It is not the problem of the woman who wears the covering.

Now one doesn’t live in a vacuum. it is entirely possible that your priest, for whatever reason, or your fellow choir members, might feel this kind of ‘condemnation’ toward an item of dress they feel is ‘virtue shaming’. They would be wrong of course (a veil is an inanimate object just as are short shorts), and often wrong in attempting to ‘read the heart’ of others based on their own feelings, but one needs to consider others too.

So if Father says, “would you eschew the veil” or your fellow choir members say to you, ’ We don’t HAVE to wear these any more" (the implication being, “we don’t want anybody to wear them”, you could while in the choir choose not to wear the veil. Sometimes people just ‘aren’t ready’ to perceive something that for whatever reason they’ve been conditioned to view in a bad way as being good, or even neutral. Not yet. So drop back a bit, perhaps, so that they can associate somebody who was wearing a veil as NOT being ‘militant’, as being somebody who ‘listened to them’, who ‘respected them’. . .and see if as they become comfortable with you the person they might become comfortable with how you are devoted to God.
 
I would ask the priest if it is ok with him to wear a veil and then be covered by obedience. You don’t owe.the same obedience to other people just giving you their opinions. If the priest leaves it up to you then you also covered spiritually against people who might comment on your decision.
Just make sure the veil is not distracting by color or texture.
 
This is why I am happy that the parishes around here still make use of the choir loft. When I cantor, people are not looking at me, we are all looking at the Altar and the Crucifix.

I’ve seen many women cantor from the ambo while wearing a chapel veil or scarf. Make sure it is well secured so you are not fiddling with it (a couple of bobby pins are your friend! Even after all these years there are only one or two of my veils that I will wear without pins).

ETA: A wide headband or a hat are also options. You can find cute little basic pillbox hats online for around $10. Turbans are also stylish, more winter wear than summer. Again, low cost online. I wear a velvet stretch turban sometimes and it is a chance to wear some of my vintage brooches.

This one was my Easter gift to myself. It has some weight and is a good drape. I can wear it without pins. It is one I would wear if I needed to be at the Ambo because it will stay in place!

 
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I am the lay cantor in my parish and I wear a veil from spring to late fall and a hat from late fall to spring. No one in my parish makes a fuss about my wearing a hat/veil.
 
If the priest isn’t comfortable with her wearing a veil, then a chapel cap is fine too.
 
I wish we had a choir loft! New church, though. Much less traditional. Thanks for the tips!
 
Traditionally the mind of the Church was that women make an effort to wear a veil.
Traditionally the mind of the Church was that only men could take ministry in the Church, including that of Cantor. Today that decision is completely up to the purview of the local Bishop and then the parish priest.
Today veiling is an optional devotion for women.
 
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No, I don’t think it’s odd. But for cantoring, I would keep it smaller and plain, or maybe a headcovering other than a veil, like a hat. I also really like the extra-wide headbeands or the smaller veils that tie back, like this or this or this.
 
I would ask the priest if it is ok with him to wear a veil and then be covered by obedience. You don’t owe.the same obedience to other people just giving you their opinions. If the priest leaves it up to you then you also covered spiritually against people who might comment on your decision.
Just make sure the veil is not distracting by color or texture.
Wait… I usually know better than to get involved in a veiling thread but is that the role of a parish priest? Telling a woman to veil or not to veil?
 
Thanks! Ah that’s why I dont post in threads about veiling! Lol. No real dog in the fight but um absolutely shocked at the idea that a priest could dictate this practice NOT be done… shocked and a tad amused. I can see a priest addressing a woman’s clothing in a modesty context. But to dictate veiling not veiling seems incredibly at odds with modern roles of parish priests.
 
A previous priest at a parish I no longer attend because I moved, would not even allow women to veil who were EMHC’s.
He reprimanded a friend of mine for wearing
a white veil because she is married. He said a white veil means you are “available”.
I had no idea about that. I wondered if there is a specific color of veil I should wear since I
am divorced!!! (I don’t veil, but I have no problem with women who choose to veil as it seems a sign of reverence.)
@Hoosier-Daddy
 
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is that the role of a parish priest? Telling a woman to veil or not to veil?
Probably not, but I’d still talk to him regardless. It wouldn’t be much different than SSPX or FSSP priests asking women to veil or showing scantily clad parishioners the door.
 
There is a huge difference between asking or requesting and demanding or prohibiting. Huge. A priest can ask or request almost anything! But expressly forbidding or requiring? I’m not so sure… granted it can be much like employment where a priest absolutely has the right to pick those who will serve at Mass. But we wouldn’t say a priest has the right to demand a Cantor recieve in the hand, etc… heck a parish priest cant even really forbid kneeling to recieve…
 
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He can’t. But he can make his opinion quite clear. And at my parish I’ll be receiving on the hand while an altar boy, at least until I get up the courage to ask to receive differently.
 
As a parent there is a unique view here. I have gone to war with a priest over my children’s desire to recieve on the tounge. And if a priest told my 12 year old to remove her veil, or addressed me about it, there would be a problem…
 
A white veil is for single young ladies, I.e. never married; black is for widows.
 
Yes all the women at my parish wear a veil including those in the choir. Its not required just suggested.
 
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