Charismatic Catholics?

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Hello,

How many of you are charismatic catholics? I am only 20 years old, but i dont feel like im Charismatic, I have a hard time trying to wave my hands during a song for our Lord… Now is this what Charismatic means? I really enjoy gettin on my knees and praying instead, thankin God for all his blessings… Am I wrong for not being Charismatic?

Thanks guys 👍
 
I don’t think it’s a problem. Some Catholics and some don’t prescribe to it. It doesn’t mean you’re wrong. Also, just because you don’t wave your hands I don’t think it’s a problem. I’m not as educated on the topic as some others here who practice it, so they’ll be be able to tell you more.
 
I was part of the group that led singing in my old protestant church for years, and I never felt comfortable with hand-raising/eyes closing/swaying stuff either. My parish now has a praise/worship type thing on every other Wednesday night that’s not officially Charismatic, but does some of those things–I don’t go. You’re certainly not wrong! In fact, I think it would be wrong to force or pretend to be drawn to that sort of spirituality. For some people, it’s an authentic expression of their faith, and for some, it’s just not. My 2c.
 
I am somewhat of a charismatic Catholic. I’m not really active in the movement though. But anyway, there is nothing wrong with not being a charismatic Catholic.
 
I’m only learning about the Charismatic Renewal at the moment. I was a bit wary when I heard of it first, because it’s not something I’m used to. My first experience was at a healing service with the faith healer Eddie Stone. The Blessed Sacrament was exposed, we prayed the Rosary all together, Reconciliation was offered, and then there was a Mass before the Healing Service. So I was left in no doubt about the Catholicity of it.

I’ve recently got more involved through friends, and I was at a Charismatic prayer meeting of sorts. I learnt a lot about it: Charismatic Catholics are those that seek to explore the Extraordinary Gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as the gift of healing, praying in tongues etc. These are separate to the Ordinary Gifts that we receive in Confirmation. Emphasis is however placed on the Eucharist as being greater than any other gift the Holy Spirit can give us.
Vocal prayer is also a big part of the Charismatic Renewal. This means just letting a flow of prayer come out, and it is initially strange to be in a room with everyone praying away out loud, some people speaking in tongues, and no one paying anyone any heed. That’s probably one of the hardest parts - being completely comfortable with vocal prayer.
I’m a lot more accustomed to private prayer, having an introspective relationship with God, and translating that to pray out loud is still a bit alien to me.
I am very interested in this area of the faith though, so I’m going to keep exploring it, because I do believe that there are many graces we just don’t tap into.

God bless:)
 
thank you for all these respnses.

i attend a “Prayer Group”, (not sure if thats the right terminology) every friday, I try my best to fall into the movement, but its just not my thing, I keep going tho because i love hearing when they preach 😃

I go to mass every wednesday and sunday, I wish i could go on thursday , But I am currently in RCIA … Hopefully i will be Confirmed, Confessed, and First Communion, God willingly of course
 
I came from a very charismatic Pentecostal background. I was not overly charismatic, but I knew some that were certainly more “enthusiastic” than others.

We do have a charismatic group within our parish, but I am not involved with them. Like you, I best express myself through prayer and quiet contemplation. You are not wrong for not expressing yourself in a charismatic manner. Likewise, those who do are also not wrong. We each express ourselves differently and it is God who sees the heart of the worshipper.

Charismatic expression should be expressed in a manner that is in obedience to the bishop and it should not be distractive. Another concern I have is when it is equated with a deeper level of spirituality (which was often the case in my old denomination). It is also a fine line between emotionalism and simply expressing an enthusiastic worship. Charismatics need to govern themselves accordingly.

We are not called to worship in a particular style, we are simply called to worship in spirit and in truth.

CSJ
 
Hello,

How many of you are charismatic catholics? I am only 20 years old, but i dont feel like im Charismatic, I have a hard time trying to wave my hands during a song for our Lord… Now is this what Charismatic means? I really enjoy gettin on my knees and praying instead, thankin God for all his blessings… Am I wrong for not being Charismatic?

Thanks guys 👍
Charismatic has nothing to do with waving your hands really, its just something that tends to happen more in Charismatic groups primarily as a function of the style of music they play. Dont feel embarrassed or forced into waving your hands if it is not a genuine expression of your love of and desire to worship God. You are very blessed to express your thanksgiving to God in silent submission on your knees - dont ever let anyone convince you otherwise. True prayer comes from the heart - the center of your being - not from your hands or from anywhere else.
There is a movement within the Church known as the Charismatic Catholic Movement. It started about 30 years ago and is basically a movement meant to focus on an awareness and effective use of the charisms of the Holy Spirit of each individual for the benefit of the Church as a whole. Various charisms are typically associated with the movement such as speaking in tongues, spiritual discernment, resting in the spirit, and several others. Typically these groups engage in forms of open praise and worship integrated with music which leads to various expressions of group prayer - this is not done during Mass, however. As an example, I belong to a group of individuals within my Parish who all went through a 7 week exploration of the gifts of the Holy Spirit and a renewal of the personal commitment to follow Christ and the development of an openess to understanding the particular gift(s) that God has given each of us for the benefit of others. Daily personal prayer time was a big part of it as well as the group worship time spent weekly. The conclusion of this exploration was the celebration of a Mass with our Priest and the participation in a Sacramental where we were anointed with holy oil and blessed by him. This was done as an act of faith to rekindle the graces we received at Baptism. Many of the participants - myself included - experienced a particular expression of the Holy Spirit known as “resting in the Spirit” where, following the blessing and anointing, people basically fall to a resting position without actually losing consciousness and experience a profound peace and awareness of God’s presence. Others experienced a profound awareness of God’s mercy and their own need for mercy expressed in deep sobbing - tears of profound gratitude. Others received the gift of tongues where they “speak” in a manner completely unintelligble, but which they are aware is offered as prayer to God. This usually happens during or after we join in a song of prayer or worship to God. When I first experienced others speaking in tongues around me(I have not received this gift) I was suspicious because of various prejudices I had developed. In time, however, I have greatly enjoyed being in the presence of such praise, and it tends to draw me deeper into my own form of prayer. This is a key feature of a genuine charismatic prayer group: the group should be drawn individually into a deeper personal prayer life and also drawn into greater reverance of the Mass and the desire to love and serve God and neighbor. It should augment all of the “traditional” aspects of our Catholic faith such as Eucharistic Adoration, praying the Rosary, praying the Chaplet of Divine Mercy or any or the many beautiful expressions of the Catholic faith. Under no circumstances should a genuine charismatic group become isolated from the Parish or somehow feel that they are “different” or any such nonsense. If the charismatic movement does not foster a sense of reverence for Mass, unity with the Church and with the local Parish, as well as the desire to express oneself with traditional Prayer and service to others then it is simply a misdirected effort not of the Holy Spirit.
Here’s another thread I participated on involving the Charismatic Revival:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=5087912&postcount=12

Blessings!
 
Hello,

How many of you are charismatic catholics? I am only 20 years old, but i dont feel like im Charismatic, I have a hard time trying to wave my hands during a song for our Lord… Now is this what Charismatic means? I really enjoy gettin on my knees and praying instead, thankin God for all his blessings… Am I wrong for not being Charismatic?

Thanks guys 👍
This is a very good resource.

A Key to Charismatic Renewal in the Catholic Church** ISBN: 0-87029-033-9**

by Msgr. Vincent M. Walsh
Key of David Publications

Blessings,
a Catholic Charismatic granny

These two websites contain TV ads about Catholicism. The first is from one of the Dioceses which is using them. The second is general information.
 
Hello,

How many of you are charismatic catholics? I am only 20 years old, but i dont feel like im Charismatic, I have a hard time trying to wave my hands during a song for our Lord… Now is this what Charismatic means? I really enjoy gettin on my knees and praying instead, thankin God for all his blessings… Am I wrong for not being Charismatic?

Thanks guys 👍
“Charismatic” Catholics are a very tiny minority and you most certainly do NOT have to be one and nor are you missing anything by not being one.
I do not subscribe to these groups of arm waving, hugging, gibberish talkers!

We have Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, the Magesterium and the Sacraments. We do not need anything else to be a complete Catholic.
 
I would say I’m now a Charismatic Catholic, was I before? definitely not! my faith was very private and silent.

Last year my parish had a 5 week seminar program for release of the holy spirit, very similar to what Philthy mentioned in her post, it was called Sons & Daughter of the living God, it is very similar to Life in the Spirit seminars, which I highly recommend.

We met 7 times in that 5 weeks, we have a talk on a different subject and testimony at every meeting, We explored the gifts of the holy spirit and developed an openness and understanding of them. All the talkers were Charismatic Catholics, some where priests, some lay people involved in the Charismatic Renewal. We also got handbooks which would prepare us for the talk that week and also daily scriptures to prayerfully read, (lectio Dvina) and other prayers. At the beginning of the seminars we were put in to random small “sharing” groups of between 4-6 per group, I wasn’t keen on this as i never shared my faith before, and actully was walking out and leaving after the talk at the 2nd meeting, until the organiser John, stopped me at the door and we had a chat and I shared with him, then the next week I joined a group.in these groups we would share about anything what spoke to us from the talk or testimony we just herd, or if any thing spoke to us that week trough our lectio Dvina. The meetings always begin and ended with praise and worship, some people waving hands around and stuff.

The conclusion was very similar to the other poster Philthy.The day be got “baptised in the spirit” or the release of the Spirit, we had a talk and group sharing and then the sacrament of reconciliation was offered and exposition of the Blessed sacrament, then Mass and then the laying on of hands and praying for the release of the gifts of the Spirit. I must admit I didn’t feel much, just peace & lightness in my self. While others had a great experience and feelings, people where praying in tongues which made me feel a bit uncomfortable as it was something I wasn’t used to, just like I wasn’t with the waving of hands and dancing when the praise and worship was goin on.

A couple of days after the seminars finished (Wednesday), there was a Life In The Spirit retreat weekend (Friday) in a Franciscan Friary Retreat Centre at Pantasaph, Wales. (I’m from the UK) I and some of the others who attended, we thought it would be a good way to finish the whole Charismatic experience. It was very similar to the seminars I just finished but was alot more intense as it was done over the weekend.
On the day we where to get “baptised in the spirit” or the relase of the Spirit, before hands being laid on prayed over, it was the same as at the seminar, we had a talk, exposition and confessions, then free time, lunch etc. In my free time, away from the schedule, I prayed alot, all the time I was asking Our Lord Jesus to let me feel his Love, I said to him “I know your there and love me, but I cant feel anything, please let me feel you, let experience your love tonight when I get prayed over for the release of the Spirit” There is a mountain at the friary, which has the stations of the cross going up it, also a rosary way leading to a Our Lady of Lourdes grotto. I did both of these and prayed at exposition for my prayer intention I was asking.

The next talk was by Fr. Keith,( he runs the Franciscan retreat center) we then Mass, after mass he exposed the Blessed Sacrament, saying if anything is going to happen tonight it will be because of him (Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament), not any of us. He was so rite!
Praise and worship began, the atmosphere got so Spiritual, you could feel the present of the lord, and the holy spirit was among us. As we had praise and worship, I started getting shivers done my spine, and every time I took a deep breath, I felt like I was getting full of a beautiful sensation which words cant describe. When the time came for me to be anointed with oil and be prayed over, I just went weak and got “laid out in the spirit”. Nothing can describe how I felt when I was laid out, it was the most beautiful feeling nothing on earth could compare to how I felt, my body just erupted with Love, every part of me was tinging with the most sensational feeling what words cant describe, I just knew it was the love of Jesus!

When I finally found the strength to get my self back to my feet and back to my chair, still tingling and weak, Jesus spoke to me through the words of a song being sang ,he said to me “Do not be afraid for I have redeemed you, I have called you be your name you are mine.” As I herd this I broke down with tears, and I never cry! they where tears of gratitude to the lord, When I came back round I found my self praising and worshiping in a way I never did before, even waving of the hands and stuff 🙂 Also I had the gift of tongues, which brought me to a new level of praise and worship, which I never thought possible. I had the most amazing experience ever that night, and everyone there said the same. It was so Spiritual, some were singing in tongues which sound angelic, like it was coming straight from heaven!
 
The Charismatic Renawel has changed my life completely. I have a had a complete change in my self and my ways, I have a new love for God the Father and His Word, Our Lord Jesus and His Church & The Holy Spirit and His Gifts. I have a new love for prayer & reading scripture, I have a new love for Mass, which I attend almost daily now instead of just Sunday, I have a new love for the Blessed Sacrament which I attend almost weekly, I now tend to go confession weekly, instead of every few months or “when I could be bothered”. I just seem to want to talk about Jesus and the Catholic Church, learn and share my faith, talk about my Charismatic experience to everyone. I now attend a monthly Charismatic healing mass, a weekly Charismatic prayer group. I even wave my hands and stuff!

The Charismatic Renewal gave me a complete conversion, not just me but my mother, aunt and others who attend the seminars. There lives has been changed and converted to the Lord though the relase of the Holy Spirit.

Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to share my experience.
 
“Charismatic” Catholics are a very tiny minority and you most certainly do NOT have to be one and nor are you missing anything by not being one.
I do not subscribe to these groups of arm waving, hugging, gibberish talkers!
No offense, but you sound angry, ignorant of and threatened by the concept of the Charismatic Renewal. Have you had a bad experience that you now project onto all who embrace the Charismatic movement or are you just grumpy in general? Honestly - why would you malign a group of individuals who are genuinely seeking Christ as “arm waving, hugging, gibberish talkers”?
We have Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, the Magesterium and the Sacraments. We do not need anything else to be a complete Catholic.
There are lots of things we dont need. We dont need the Rosary nor do we need to accept any of the miracles approved by the Church; we dont need fellowship and we dont need to ever make the sign of the Cross - but these are all potentially beneficial things even though they are not “necessary”. I suggest you unbutton that top button on your shirt, take a deep breath and relax a little bit. Just because your particular form of spirituality is different from another does not mean you should be threatened, callous or disrespectful.

Blessings!
 
Who would you say is the patron saint of Catholic Charismatics?
Don’t know that there is one, but I’d vote for St. Teresa of Avila. She is the Doctor of Prayer and in her book, The Interior Mansions, she talks about praying in tongues. Maybe if/when John Paul II becomes a saint he could be the patron, since he prayed in tongues too.

Scripture speaks about people “raising their hands to God” in prayer. Moses did it, Joshua did it, JESUS did it, and Paul did it. However, if the action is done to garner attention, then it probably isn’t someone authentically charismatic. Charisms are gifts from the Spirit, meant to glorify God and edify people. Shrieking hysterics are not authentic charisms, because they are bringing attention to the person and not to God. In the prayer group observe the behavior of the group-- are they using their gestures to glorify God or to glorify themselves and make themselves look holy?

Thistle, the Catholic Church BEGAN as a charismatic Church. And you can have “Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, the Magesterium and the Sacraments”, but if you do not LOVE you have nothing at all. Therefore, you do need something else to be a complete Catholic. The Charismatics I know live the beatitudes, and love both God and neighbor with their whole hearts. They do not go through the Mass in some rote, mindless fashion, but are adoring God with the highest degree of faith and love and humility. It is too bad that the charismatic movement is a “tiny minority” as you put it. If it were the majority, the Church would be bursting with life and love and service. Instead, a huge percentage of people who call themselves Catholic go to Church a couple times a year, rarely go to confession and hardly ever open the Bible. I’m not saying that you fall into this group of ‘Cafeteria’ Catholics, but many, many Catholics are this way.
 
I’ll have to look up Teresa of Avila, thanks. I’ve read somewhere else that people like St. Peter ot St. Paul could be considered such and was looking for some opinions on that.
 
“Don’t know that there is one, but I’d vote for St. Teresa of Avila. She is the Doctor of Prayer and in her book, The Interior Mansions, she talks about praying in tongues. Maybe if/when John Paul II becomes a saint he could be the patron, since he prayed in tongues too.”
John Paul II prayed in tongues? Do you have a source for that? I’m curious.
 
“Don’t know that there is one, but I’d vote for St. Teresa of Avila. She is the Doctor of Prayer and in her book, The Interior Mansions, she talks about praying in tongues. Maybe if/when John Paul II becomes a saint he could be the patron, since he prayed in tongues too.”

John Paul II prayed in tongues? Do you have a source for that? I’m curious.
Father John Hampsch, a Claretian priest, gave witness to our Bible study group that he personally saw and heard John Paul II praying in tongues at a meeting with forty priests about the charismatic renewal. I do not know if Fr. Hampsch has written anything about it in his books, though I will look at the one I have and see if he wrote anything about it. Fr. Hampsch has a website : www.claretiantapeministry.org. There might be something about it there.
 
That’s interesting. I thought it’d have been someone from the early Church. I think I saw that comment on Peter and Paul on the Catholic Charismatic Center on the Web.
 
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