Charismatic Catholics

[guanophore]

Welcome back to the thread, joe_cool! You just couldn’t stay away, could you?

Hey, Joe, you’re in Ohio, right? Steubenville can’t be that far away. You could go and get some first-hand experience!

No, I don’t think he is ready for that. He is not open and yielding to the presence of the HS in such a venue. He would just go in with a condemnatory spirit and mind, and find nothing but more fault. Let him continue to experience the HS in front of the blessed sacrament until he is healed of some of his prejudice, then he will be ready.

 

[guanophore]

did you read what joe 5859 posted back on page 3 2 things by pope benidict XVI and a few things by pope john paul II, he doesn’t condemn the charismatic renewal

I think joe_notsocool thinks he knows more than the Popes.

 

[benedictgal]

Now, regarding the Mass, the Brazilian Catholic Conference of Bishops issued these norms insofar as the Charismatic movement is concerned:

“In the celebration of Holy Mass the words of the institution must not be stressed in an inadequate fashion. Nor must the Eucharistic Prayer be interrupted by moments of praise for Christ’s Eucharistic presence by means of applause, cheers, processions, hymns of Eucharistic praise or any other manifestations that exalt in this way the Real Presence and end up emptying out the various dimensions of the Eucharistic celebration.”

…In No. 42 the bishops indicate that music and gestures should be appropriate to the moment of the celebration and follow the liturgical norms. A clear distinction should be made between liturgical hymns and other religious songs that are reserved to prayer meetings. Hymns should preferably be chosen from an official repertoire of liturgical songs.

…Speaking or praying in tongues: The object or destination of praying in tongues is God himself, being the attitude of a person absorbed in a particular conversation with God. The object or destination of speaking in tongues is the community. The Apostle Paul teaches, ‘When I am in the presence of the community I would rather say five words that mean something than ten thousand words in a tongue’ (1 Corinthians 14:19). Since in practice it is difficult to distinguish between the inspirations of the Holy Spirit and the instigations of the group leader, there should never be a call encouraging praying in tongues, and speaking in tongues should not take place unless there is also an interpreter."

This is a rough translation as appeared in yesterday’s online edition of Zenit. In this article, a reader asked a question about speaking in tongues during the Consecration. Inasmuch as these norms were written for Brazil, I think that prudence would indicate that this is something that perhaps the Charismatic community might want to take into account, especially where the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is concerned.