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Chastity is the solution to:
abortion
unwed teen pregnancy
unwed pregnancy
prostitution
lust
rape
pornography
date rape
statutory rape
pedophiles
self abuse
and so forth

It is also the solution to problems that follow from the above mentioned.

Abortion and prostitution do not solve problems but create more problems. They are solution problems.
 
Yes, it is.

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Now to convince everyone of that.

Lead by example is going to be the best way.
 
First of all, sexual desire is the hardest thing to overcome in the life. So if you can overcome that, it’s very likely that you find ease in overcoming other things.
And then, after having overcome sexual desire, one can consider becoming priest … the Church really needs a lot of priests … 🙂
 
But chastity did not work as a good solution for the priests who have hurt hundreds of children (rape, pedophilia, lust, etc, from your list)
If you think these priests were practicing chastity, you need to go look up what “chastity” means. :o
 
Chastity is the solution to:
abortion
unwed teen pregnancy
unwed pregnancy
prostitution
lust
rape
pornography
date rape
statutory rape
pedophiles
self abuse
and so forth

It is also the solution to problems that follow from the above mentioned.

Abortion and prostitution do not solve problems but create more problems. They are solution problems.
I don’t think rape or date rape belong on your list. 🤷
 
But chastity did not work as a good solution for the priests who have hurt hundreds of children (rape, pedophilia, lust, etc, from your list)…and these are men of God who pray all day and believe in church teachings and in Jesus.
Some argue that chastity (priests not being able to get married) contributed to the problem in these circumstances.
So there must be something else we can do beyond chastity to try and solve these issues. Something more, or something else. We must keep trying.
Distinguished Professor of History and Religious Studies at Penn State and author of Pedophiles and Priests: Anatomy of a Contemporary Crisis, Dr Philip Jenkins says
My research of cases over the past 20 years indicates no evidence whatever that Catholic or other celibate clergy are any more likely to be involved in misconduct or abuse than clergy of any other denomination—or indeed, than non-clergy. However determined news media may be to see this affair as a crisis of celibacy, the charge is just unsupported. . . . . My concern over the “pedophile priest” issue is not to defend evil clergy, or a sinful church (I cannot be called a Catholic apologist, since I am not even a Catholic). But I am worried that justified anger over a few awful cases might be turned into ill-focused attacks against innocent clergy. The story of clerical misconduct is bad enough without turning into an unjustifiable outbreak of religious bigotry against the Catholic Church
jknirp.com/jenkins2.htm
In May 2009, a little-publicized report was issued by the Australian Anglican Church, entitled Child Sexual Abuse in the Anglican Church, by Parkinson, Oates & Jayakody. The report obtained information on abuse charges from 17 of the 23 Australian Anglican dioceses between 1990 and 2008. According to its authors, the report analyzed a survey of:
…. all concluded cases of reported child sexual abuse since 1990 within the church by clergy and church workers. The study did not include reported cases from Anglican schools or Anglican children homes. Accused persons were categorised in the survey as either clergy, candidates for clergy, pastoral employees or volunteers… A complainant was defined as less than 18 years of age at the time of the alleged sexual abuse. [p. 13]
The Anglican report gives considerable attention to the question of patterns of abuse between Anglican and Catholic clergy:
A key finding of this study is the similarities in pattern of abuse found between the Anglican and Roman Catholic Churches. Similarities were found in patterns of male victim characteristics, location and types of abuse, accused person characteristics, and delayed reporting and disclosure of abuse
This similarity is despite significant differences in the nature of clergy vocations (the Anglican Church does not require singleness or celibacy). The similarity between the Anglican and Catholic churches is also despite significant differences in ministry involving children. [p. 39—*parentheses in the original
]

catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=442

President of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Ernie Allen says
We don’t see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else. I can tell you without hesitation that we have seen cases in many religious settings, from traveling evangelists to mainstream ministers to rabbis and others
newsweek.com/id/236096

Consider that rabbis and travelling evangelists do not have a celibacy rule

Study on the causes and context of the sex abuse crisis by John Jay College of Criminal Justice of the City University dismissed celibacy as a cause of the abuse
 
But chastity did not work as a good solution for the priests who have hurt hundreds of children (rape, pedophilia, lust, etc, from your list)…and these are men of God who pray all day and believe in church teachings and in Jesus.
Some argue that chastity (priests not being able to get married) contributed to the problem in these circumstances.
So there must be something else we can do beyond chastity to try and solve these issues. Something more, or something else. We must keep trying.
If I were to say chastity did not work for me because I became pregant, I would really being saying I failed chastity.

You assume they were men of God who prayed all day and believed in the church teachings and Jesus but I wouldn’t make that assumption. It might be true but by your post it sounds to me as though you don’t understand what a pedophile is.

“Pedophiles find ways to be around children as often as possible. They get jobs as teachers, camp counselors, schoolbus drivers, daycare workers, or even enter the priesthood. They volunteer as Boy Scout leaders, church or secular youth workers, or with organizations such as Trucker Buddy International. Of course most of the people in these professions and volunteer positions are not pedophiles, and are indeed honest, moral and upright people, but most pedophiles will seek out these type of occupations and volunteer positions.” This quote was taken from crimeshots.com. It’s a true crime website and perhaps not the most scientific (though I’ve read a lot of true crime and there is a LOT of forensics reported in them - much more so than your average news media.)

People using the argument for allowing priests to marry are naive at best. Do you think someone who is sexually attracted to children will be cured of this by having sex with an adult?

“The onset of pedophilia usually occurs during adolescence. Occasional pedophiles begin their activities during middle age but this late onset is uncommon. In the United States, about 50% of men arrested for pedophilia are married.” According to minddisorders.com it doesn’t seem to work.

I don’t think chastity is the whole cure anymore than just eating healthy is the entire cure to someone who is severely obese. Chastity helps people who don’t have any sexual fixations and eating healthy helps people who just eat a little too much or eat the wrong things sometimes. But for people outside of those definitions there are complex psychological issues at work, and sometimes even deviant biological causes that need to be addressed. But in both cases the suggestions are necessary.

To say chastity is the wrong suggestion is to say that sex is somehow the solution. Part of chastity is not having sex therefore if it has no place in the solution then having sex is a component that must be utilized.

I think the very word chastity offends certain people and when you look at it honestly it does so because it is terribly inconvenient to them and it implies a spiritual practice to the secular mind (which can also be offensive to some people). The idea of chastity being effective is very threatening to our culture here in America (not to exclude those of you not in the States) and it will be fought tooth and nail no matter what arena it is applied in - even pedophilia. Because if it encroaches on the world farther than that then the billion dollar porn industry will lose a lot of money, human traffickers in America won’t make more money than Google like they did in 2007, thousands of strip clubs would be shut down, the big pharma monster would lose billions in revenue from birth control, hospitals wouldn’t be treating as many women for breast cancer due to the spike in estrogen from birth control (they’ve also found a correlation between traces of birth control in the water to a rise in prostate cancer in men), and a million abortions wouldn’t happen which sounds like quite a bit of revenue as well. That’s just what came to the top of my head - there are many other ways the practice of chastity would take a huge chunk of profits away from many other businesses.

So when you fight against chastity, aside from your own lust, who else are you fighting for? Whether it is your intention to or not, you are also protecting the interests of business monoliths that crush humanity underfoot for financial gain. And the problem of corporate greed is something Catholics and secularists alike can probably shake hands on even if we focus on different aspects of the problem. There isn’t a lot of money to be made on morality and believe it or not that is a huge factor in why it is under attack.
 
But chastity did not work as a good solution for the priests who have hurt hundreds of children (rape, pedophilia, lust, etc, from your list)…and these are men of God who pray all day and believe in church teachings and in Jesus.
Some argue that chastity (priests not being able to get married) contributed to the problem in these circumstances.
So there must be something else we can do beyond chastity to try and solve these issues. Something more, or something else. We must keep trying.
The argument that lack of married sex caused pedophilia is nonsense. There are a lot of married pedophiles so obviously, marriage doesn’t cure pedophilia.

yes, the something more is pray. The strength to resist sin comes from God. We can’t do it alone.

also it wouldn’t hurt if society supported and encouraged chastity and gave it social value. But the thought of sexual relations as a holy act between a man and a woman open to the creation of new life is just a horrible idea to modern society. Sex is for fun and games to be enjoyed by all and to hell with the consequences.
 
As some nice person pointed out: It is the proactive solution to STDs.

WOW!!!
 
There are so many things solved by chastity, whether a person is Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, agnostic or even atheistic.

Chastity is proactive and holistic problem solving for individuals, families, towns, cities and civilizations.

Also, abortion does not solve a problem but abolishes a life. It also causes great spiritual, psychological and physical problems for the mother and father and their entire family. Abortion is not a solution but a problems causer.

Prostitution does not solve a problem. It causes great spiritual problems to all the people involved.

Pornography cause problems for the model, those that make the pornography and the individuals that use it.

We could go on and on. It is self-evident.
 
Chastity is beautiful.

Chastity is really possible.

Chastity is proactive problems solving.

Chastity is holistic problems solving.
 
Chastity must be practiced in both the single and married state. For the single, it means abstinence and for the married faithfulness to one’s spouse.

It really makes me angry that people suggest that celibacy and lack of married sex causes pedophilia. It this is the cause, then all the pedophiles present in prison at this time should get married and voila their condition is cured. :rolleyes:
 
I totally agree, but on this site it’s like preaching to the choir. How do we even begin to convince the rest of the world, except for prayer? For me, personally, it’s probably the most difficult virtue to practice…something I’ve dealt with most of my 70 years, and I’m a cradle Catholic. Living a chaste life doesn’t seem to be one of those those things that is is outwardly observable by those around us.
Chastity is the solution to:
abortion
unwed teen pregnancy
unwed pregnancy
prostitution
lust
rape
pornography
date rape
statutory rape
pedophiles
self abuse
and so forth

It is also the solution to problems that follow from the above mentioned.

Abortion and prostitution do not solve problems but create more problems. They are solution problems.
 
TimothyH

I am not sure, but from I can discern, our Catholic faith believes we it the gift of chastity just as we get the gift of faith, hope and love.

Blessings!!!
 
How I wish it were so. :rolleyes:

-Tim-
:confused: I have to admit that I am confused, chastity and lust are contradictory. It is impossible to be truly chaste while lusting. Chastity does not equal no sex, it basically equals living in a pure way according to your state in life. Married people are called ot chastity just as much as religious and single people are. How is chastity not the solution to lust?
 
Rape is a crime of violence, chastity has nothing to do with rape. Psych 1A
Of course rape is an act of violence, but it is still also a sin against chastity. It it impossible to rape someone without acting unchastely. So the point being that if you were to be a truly chaste person and truly act chastely you would not ever rape anyone.
 
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