chastity

[billcu1]

I’m looking for a good writing about chastity. Any saints or papal writings that explain this? I know it’s not just saying “no” “no” all the time. I know someone who needs this knowledge other than me.

 

[latingirl]

If you want to get really in depth about the issues of chastity, marriage and sexuality, I would try Theology of the Body by Pope John Paul II. I believe there is also a small pamphlet that Catholic Answers circulates called “Pure Love.”

 

[billcu1]

If you want to get really in depth about the issues of chastity, marriage and sexuality, I would try Theology of the Body by Pope John Paul II. I believe there is also a small pamphlet that Catholic Answers circulates called “Pure Love.”

Yes I do thank you very much.

 

[latingirl]

Yes I do thank you very much.

You are very welcome!

 

[ishnianqueen]

Ditto to the Theology of the Body. There’s a new compilation and translation out: amazon.com/Man-Woman-He-Created-Them/dp/0819874213

This is better than the older one. Since it was essentially a compilation of Wednesday audience homiliies, there were multiple translators and therefore inconsistent translations. Waldenstein decided to go through and translate everything himself and, as a Bible scholar anyway, he kind of knows what he’s talking about.

You can also try JP’s “Love and Responsibility,” written when he was still Karol Wojtyla.

Side note: chastity isn’t just saying “no” all the time. It’s saying “yes” to a specific way of life, which necessitates saying “no” to other things. I can’t say “yes” to my husband and also “yes” to the random man down the street.

 

[CopticChristian]

I’m looking for a good writing about chastity. Any saints or papal writings that explain this? I know it’s not just saying “no” “no” all the time. I know someone who needs this knowledge other than me.

Maria Goretti
John of the Cross

 

[aspirant]

Ditto to the Theology of the Body. There’s a new compilation and translation out: amazon.com/Man-Woman-He-Created-Them/dp/0819874213…

You can also try JP’s “Love and Responsibility,” written when he was still Karol Wojtyla.

Some Catholics, such as Christopher West, are also working on popularizing the material in these writings. Having heard a number of his presentations over time, one of the things I like about West is that he is constantly striving to improve his presentations, both to make them conform more closely to Church teaching and to make them more understandable.

 

[clem456]

Ditto to Theology of the Body and Love and Responsibility.
JP2 has a gift for precisely working out the philosophy behind what seem like merely negative prohibitions, and finding the positive beauty in God’s plan that is behind them.

Both of these are difficult reading. They are advanced philosophy textbooks, he did not water down his teaching for the common person. I had to read both a chapter at a time, often twice, to absorb the material. Just figuring out how he uses the word “object” and “subject” in different contexts drove me a little crazy. His logic can be difficult for Americans to follow as it is not linear, for lack of a better description.
Well worth the trouble though, if you want to explain the Christian basis for chastity etc…

 

[ishnianqueen]

Both of these are difficult reading. They are advanced philosophy textbooks, he did not water down his teaching for the common person. I had to read both a chapter at a time, often twice, to absorb the material. Just figuring out how he uses the word “object” and “subject” in different contexts drove me a little crazy. His logic can be difficult for Americans to follow as it is not linear, for lack of a better description.

No kidding. Partly because I was in college and had all of my other coursework, and partly because of what you said above, it took me a year to get through TotB - Explained (the one where Christopher West has commentary). Oy. Definitely a good chunk of knowledge to work with, though.

 

[billcu1]

Ditto to the Theology of the Body. There’s a new compilation and translation out: amazon.com/Man-Woman-He-Created-Them/dp/0819874213

This is better than the older one. Since it was essentially a compilation of Wednesday audience homiliies, there were multiple translators and therefore inconsistent translations. Waldenstein decided to go through and translate everything himself and, as a Bible scholar anyway, he kind of knows what he’s talking about.

You can also try JP’s “Love and Responsibility,” written when he was still Karol Wojtyla.

Side note: chastity isn’t just saying “no” all the time. It’s saying “yes” to a specific way of life, which necessitates saying “no” to other things. I can’t say “yes” to my husband and also “yes” to the random man down the street.

I don’t understand what you mean when you say “…and also ‘yes’ to the random man down the street.”

 

[ishnianqueen]

Living chastely isn’t the same as living celibately. Living celibately is appropriate for unmarried people, but chaste living for a married person is going to include sexual activity. Therefore, as a married woman, I can have sex with my husband, but not the neighbor down the street. I said yes to my husband, so I have to say no to everyone else.

 

[billcu1]

Living chastely isn’t the same as living celibately. Living celibately is appropriate for unmarried people, but chaste living for a married person is going to include sexual activity. Therefore, as a married woman, I can have sex with my husband, but not the neighbor down the street. I said yes to my husband, so I have to say no to everyone else.

Oh yes ok I see. I’m sorry I miss-read your quote. I thought you said say “yes” to both. My bad. Whew.