cheating in school

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we’ve been discussing this in our teacher college classes and I’m wondering what are the moral implications.

would cheating on tests rise to the level of grave matter?

if so, what would be proper restitution? would you need to track down all your former schools and teachers and confess or have your grades revoked? if it happened in the past that is, high school or first year college, something like that.

I mean they all build on each other right/ if you cheated in high school, you might be getting a spot in college that you didn’t earn. not that it’s usualy extensive cheating, it’s usually good students too, who just want that little extra edge, a couple questions they didn’t know the answers to, etC…

I realize that grades don’t necessarily hurt the school but ?we are still obtaining something dishonestly that we did not earn.

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angell1 said:
we’ve been discussing this in our teacher college classes and I’m wondering what are the moral implications.

would cheating on tests rise to the level of grave matter?
possibly.
if so, what would be proper restitution? would you need to track down all your former schools and teachers and confess or have your grades revoked?
NOif it happened in the past that is, high school or first year college, something like that. Still NO

I mean they all build on each other right/ if you cheated in high school, you might be getting a spot in college that you didn’t earn. not that it’s usualy extensive cheating, it’s usually good students too, who just want that little extra edge, a couple questions they didn’t know the answers to, etc…
So it’s your position that a person can cheat their way all through school . never getting caught, never having to orally display competency, and that you could also get an advanced degree under the premise of total deception? That wouldn’t happen. False scenario.

I realize that grades don’t necessarily hurt the school but ?we are still obtaining something dishonestly that we did not earn.

thoughts?
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I think that person should go to confession and vow never to cheat THEMSELVES again.
 
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I think that person should go to confession and vow never to cheat THEMSELVES again.
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well no, I didn’t say all through school. but a few times is definitely possible.

if you cheat on a few tests in high school, let’s say, it might still be enough for you to get a good enough grade for college that you did not necessarily earn.

and it’s not usually about not having a clue about subject matter either. usually those students do know but just want that little bit more. an A instead of a B, that sort of thing
 
Cheating does not defraud the school per se, but it “steals” from other students in the course, who have a lower position re: grade rankings and the like than they would otherwise have had.

If the term is over, there is no meaningful way to offer restitution.

And yes, academic cheating would normally rise to grave matter, ISTM.

ICXC NIKA
 
Cheating is a grave matter specifically BECAUSE it entangles an individual in the web of lies an potential unearned positive rewards that you describe.
 
angell1 said:
we’ve been discussing this in our teacher college classes and I’m wondering what are the moral implications.

would cheating on tests rise to the level of grave matter?

if so, what would be proper restitution? would you need to track down all your former schools and teachers and confess or have your grades revoked? if it happened in the past that is, high school or first year college, something like that.

I mean they all build on each other right/ if you cheated in high school, you might be getting a spot in college that you didn’t earn. not that it’s usualy extensive cheating, it’s usually good students too, who just want that little extra edge, a couple questions they didn’t know the answers to, etC…

I realize that grades don’t necessarily hurt the school but ?we are still obtaining something dishonestly that we did not earn.

thoughts?
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SCRUPULOUS. Talk to your priest.
 
angell1 said:
well no, I didn’t say all through school. but a few times is definitely possible.

if you cheat on a few tests in high school, let’s say, it might still be enough for you to get a good enough grade for college that you did not necessarily earn.

and it’s not usually about not having a clue about subject matter either. usually those students do know but just want that little bit more. an A instead of a B, that sort of thing
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Have you spoken to your Spiritual Director yet?
You know you can call an make an appointment, right?
 
angell1 said:
he’s busy until after the ordination of the permanent deacons
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The parish priest? Is your priest also the Bishop?
He will meet with you if you ask for a face to face confession. They don’t turn people away.
 
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