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Were Edmond Paris, Charles Chiniquy and Adolf Hitler baptized Catholics? What made them turn against the Church into which they were brought up?
I don’t know much about Edmond Paris. Charles Chiniquy was a former priest. “He wanted to trust his ‘church,’ but was tormented as he saw it repeatedly violate the Word of God it claimed to obey.” That’s a quote taken from the back cover of his book. Apparently, he believed Catholic doctrine didn’t line up with the Bible and there were many priests doing horrific things(which I will not say). I know people hate Jack Chick, but he sincerely believes these stories. What can you say? 🤷 Also, he wants Catholics to read his tracts and books.
 
I don’t know much about Edmond Paris. Charles Chiniquy was a former priest. “He wanted to trust his ‘church,’ but was tormented as he saw it repeatedly violate the Word of God it claimed to obey.” That’s a quote taken from the back cover of his book. Apparently, he believed Catholic doctrine didn’t line up with the Bible and there were many priests doing horrific things(which I will not say). I know people hate Jack Chick, but he sincerely believes these stories. What can you say? 🤷 Also, he wants Catholics to read his tracts and books.
Are you pro-Jack Chick?
 
Do you believe their claims absolutely 100%

Here a refutation of the book of Chiniquy:

philvaz.com/apologetics/Charles-Chiniquy-Anti-Catholic.htm

*Sadly, a few years later, Chiniquy committed a series of acts of immorality and other unfortunate wrongdoing, which ultimately led to his excommunication from the Catholic Church in 1858. The reasons for this excommunication are discussed, in detail, in the essay Pastor Chiniquy (by the same Rev. Sydney Smith, quoted above).
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AN EXAMINATION OF HIS “FIFTY YEARS IN THE CHURCH OF ROME” by REV. SYDNEY F. SMITH, S.J.

AN ESSAY ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED IN 1908

IF the person who called himself Father Chiniquy had confined himself to the ministrations of the religion for which he forsook the Church of his baptism, we might have left him unchallenged to give his own account of the motives and circumstances of his alleged conversion. But inasmuch as he has sought to gain popularity and income by wholesale misrepresentations against the personal character and beliefs of those with whom he was previously associated, and his books written for this purpose are still widely used as instruments for the persecution of poor Catholic working men and working women in the shops and factories, those connected with him can have no complaint against us for submitting his past career to a searching examination, even if the result should be to discover facts not tending to exalt his reputation. So far, indeed, we have not taken this course, the difficulty of obtaining the requisite information from distant places having been so great; but so many piteous appeals have reached us from the victims of this unscrupulous persecution, that we have seen the necessity of putting the man’s story to the test, and through the kindness of some American and Canadian friends we have been supplied with some materials which, if they do not enable us to check his story at every point, suffice at least to show that he was not exactly the witness of truth.

In his earliest biographical effusion, published by the Religious Tract Society in 1861, he bases his conversion solely on doctrinal considerations, and so far from bringing charges against the moral character of the Catholic clergy, he says expressly that there are in the Church of Rome many most sincere and respectable men, and that “we must surely pray God to send them His light, but we cannot go further and abuse them”; nor is there any charge against their personal character in his Why I left the Church of Rome, which comes next in chronological order. But it would seem that the ultra-Protestant palate required something more stimulating, for in his verbose and voluminous Fifty Years in the Church of Rome (1885) he tells quite a different story.
I don’t believe the Jesuits killed Abraham Lincoln.
 
I don’t know much about Edmond Paris. Charles Chiniquy was a former priest. “He wanted to trust his ‘church,’ but was tormented as he saw it repeatedly violate the Word of God it claimed to obey.” That’s a quote taken from the back cover of his book. Apparently, he believed Catholic doctrine didn’t line up with the Bible and there were many priests doing horrific things(which I will not say). I know people hate Jack Chick, but he sincerely believes these stories. What can you say? 🤷 Also, he wants Catholics to read his tracts and books.
stop posting this GARBAGE
 
read the forum rules ,posting anti-Catholic filth can get you banned !! :mad:
 
Are you pro-Jack Chick?
Yes, I support most of his tracts. Most of his tracts are not about Catholicism. I’m 31 years old and I’ve read Chick tracts/books since I was a child. Unfortunately, the only information I knew about the Catholic Church was EXTREMELY NEGATIVE and it did not just come from Jack Chick. With that in mind, I joined this site because I wanted to know what Catholics really believe. I mean no harm.
 
Yes, I support most of his tracts. Most of his tracts are not about Catholicism. I’m 31 years old and I’ve read Chick tracts/books since I was a child. Unfortunately, the only information I knew about the Catholic Church was EXTREMELY NEGATIVE and it did not just come from Jack Chick. With that in mind, I joined this site because I wanted to know what Catholics really believe. I mean no harm.
If what he says about us Catholics is false then how can you trust anything else he says?

Welcome to the forum by the way. You are welcome here… Chick just gets under most of our skins.
 
Given the fact that Jack Chick himself is somewhat shadowy (are there even any actual photos of him?) and given the outrageous, intelligence-insulting content of his “tracts,” I almost wonder (firmly putting the tinfoil hat on) if “Jack Chick” wasn’t made up out of whole cloth by atheists to discredit religion… :bigyikes:
:hmmm:
Jimmy Akin met him.

GKC
 
If what he says about us Catholics is false then how can you trust anything else he says?

Welcome to the forum by the way. You are welcome here… Chick just gets under most of our skins.
Thank you. 🙂 I don’t put blind trust in Chick. Most of his tracts are just simple stories that give a gospel message. It’s his anti-Catholic tracts that seem to get most of the attention, and I don’t agree with all his theories.
 
Well I think we need to remember that Jack Chick truly believes, what he writes about the Catholic Church. I seem to remember reading in Jimmy Akin’s account of meeting the man, that Mr. Chick was extremely cautious and nervous around Mr. Akin. It was like he thought Akin would pop a gun and tell Chick he was going to take him to see the ‘Black Pope.’ So it’s not like Chick knows that these things are fake and then intentionally spread false accusations, no the reason Chick says the Vatican instigated Lincoln’s assassination, the Holocaust, Communism, Islam and as a secret record of all ‘true Bible-believing Christians’ for a future inquisition is because he truly believes all these things are true. IMO Chick is nothing more than a victim of paranoia. We should pray for him. :signofcross:

Although every once in a while I do go and the read ‘The Death Cookie’ if I’m lookin’ for some good comedy. 😃
 
Thank you. 🙂 I don’t put blind trust in Chick. Most of his tracts are just simple stories that give a gospel message. It’s his anti-Catholic tracts that seem to get most of the attention, and I don’t agree with all his theories.
Looking at your posting histroy I think you are sincere. But the statements you make about Chick is like telling the Jews the Nazis aren’t really bad fellows.
When I was fundamentalist I read his tracts too. Even at the time I found them to be over the top and crazy. It is very hard for people to be emotionally disattatched with someone who has spread such lies and relys on ignorant people to believe them. Chick and his lies have been exposed for years, yet people continue to believe them.
Jack Chick might be an old man, but his life has been devoted to lies and deception. Should we pray for his soul? Yes. I would pray for him to become a Christian before he dies and meets the Maker he has slandered.
I pray God has mercy for him. Because he has shown no mercy toward others.
 
With that in mind, I joined this site because I wanted to know what Catholics really believe. I mean no harm.
Kudos to you mon frere. Most protestants are happy to believe lies and don’t want to hear what we have to say, or truly believe. Respect.
 
Many years ago, in the far-off times before the invention of the internet (O Best Beloved) before I became Catholic, my friend and I were young evangical types and members of an organization called Young Life. We received a Chick tract in the usual way (it mysteriously materialized under the windshield wipers of my grandma’s Plymouth Valiant). I remember we decided to call the phone number on the tract to argue with the person who answered the phones that this kind of nonsense gave Evangelicals a bad name. We ended up defending Catholicism as “basic Christianity” , which was a good exercise for us, since neither of us really had any particular affinity for the Church at that time. Through separate paths and journeys, my Young Life friend and I are both now Catholic. Sometimes even nonsense can lead you to question what you know and what you think you know.
 
Many years ago, in the far-off times before the invention of the internet (O Best Beloved) before I became Catholic, my friend and I were young evangical types and members of an organization called Young Life. We received a Chick tract in the usual way (it mysteriously materialized under the windshield wipers of my grandma’s Plymouth Valiant). I remember we decided to call the phone number on the tract to argue with the person who answered the phones that this kind of nonsense gave Evangelicals a bad name. We ended up defending Catholicism as “basic Christianity” , which was a good exercise for us, since neither of us really had any particular affinity for the Church at that time. Through separate paths and journeys, my Young Life friend and I are both now Catholic. Sometimes even nonsense can lead you to question what you know and what you think you know.
thanks ,great story about the law of unintended consequences !!
👍 😃
 
Looking at your posting histroy I think you are sincere. But the statements you make about Chick is like telling the Jews the Nazis aren’t really bad fellows.
When I was fundamentalist I read his tracts too. Even at the time I found them to be over the top and crazy. It is very hard for people to be emotionally disattatched with someone who has spread such lies and relys on ignorant people to believe them. Chick and his lies have been exposed for years, yet people continue to believe them.
Jack Chick might be an old man, but his life has been devoted to lies and deception. Should we pray for his soul? Yes. I would pray for him to become a Christian before he dies and meets the Maker he has slandered.
I pray God has mercy for him. Because he has shown no mercy toward others.
Jack Chick is not out to harm any Catholics. I don’t think that’s a fair comparison and their rhetoric is not the same either. In his mind, he wants Catholics to become born-again Christians. The same way some Catholics want him to become a Christian. He sincerely loves Catholic people and that’s why he writes those tracts. Yes, he needs prayer. He’s a harmless, old man and most people don’t believe his tracts anyway. I wouldn’t be here if I believed everything he said about Catholicism.
 
Jack Chick is not out to harm any Catholics. I don’t think that’s a fair comparison and their rhetoric is not the same either. In his mind, he wants Catholics to become born-again Christians. The same way some Catholics want him to become a Christian. He sincerely loves Catholic people and that’s why he writes those tracts. Yes, he needs prayer. He’s a harmless, old man and most people don’t believe his tracts anyway. I wouldn’t be here if I believed everything he said about Catholicism.
Hmm, okay.
For a moment there I thought maybe you were sincere.
My bad.
Prepare to be toast.
:cool:
 
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