Children allowed to leave during homily?

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So with all the ‘chances’ for abuses and the creeping-in of possible heretical teachings and personsl that are not ordained giving instruction and homilies…why not consider leaving this idea alone?

This is a novel practice…it’s certainly not irreversible!
Unless, that is, it’s become so popular that it’s now a situation to avoid making people angry…however, that’s not what being Catholic is about (a democracy where everyone can choose to believe what they want and worship the way they want).

It’s not that it’s something terrible…and there are people who only have the best of intentions here. It’s just that it’s really a bad idea.

I sometimes do get my knickers in a twist, but it’s because I really do care.

God bless!
 
I don’t really understand, I don’t think, fully…

What sort of Sacramental Preparation are you ‘performing’ during this Liturgy of the Word for the children?
Preparation for First Reconciliation, Confirmation, and First Holy Communion.

What I do, to the best of my ability, is adapt the lesson for the week to the Gospel reading of the week - so, for example, if our topic is Saints, I read to the kids from the Gospel reading and ask them to point out the Saints in the reading (St. Peter, for example) and then ask them to think about how following this Gospel teaching will help them to become Saints, themselves.

(I’ve notice that the other
Catechist doesn’t do this, though - she completely ignores the Gospel of the week and just reads to the kids out of the teacher’s book. Another reason I want to get this program out of the Mass time and into Sunday afternoon, ASAP. But first, we have to figure out how to get the families to come to Mass without the lessons being done at the same time as Mass.)
Not to be nit-picking…and maybe your bishop gave his permission (via the secretary) and maybe not…but, even so…if it’s not allowable, then your bishop is in the wrong (and it’s not as if that NEVER happens.
I feel certain it’s a total travesty and abuse of not only the Liturgy, but also the whole concept of Christian education, as well.

I just don’t know how I can fix it, under the circumstances. I think I need to just be very patient and wait for God’s leading in this matter.
I hope I haven’t come across as harsh, on this subject…but I have very strong feelings about keeping the Mass as sacred as it should be! But I also believe that Catholics need a LOT more education about their faith!!!
I agree with you completely! 👍

(But how will they get the education, if we can’t entice them into Church at least some of the time? 🤷 )
 
So with all the ‘chances’ for abuses and the creeping-in of possible heretical teachings and personsl that are not ordained giving instruction and homilies…why not consider leaving this idea alone?

This is a novel practice…it’s certainly not irreversible!
No, of course not, but I’m not the one with the authority to reverse it. My “authority” begins and ends with doing as I’m told to do. As I mentioned before, I can make proposals and offer suggestions, but it’s not my role to set up the program, organize the timing, or choose the teaching materials - that’s the priest’s job, and (at least for the time being) he follows the suggestions of the Bishops Education secretary.
 
So with all the ‘chances’ for abuses and the creeping-in of possible heretical teachings and personsl that are not ordained giving instruction and homilies…why not consider leaving this idea alone?

This is a novel practice…it’s certainly not irreversible!
God bless!
It’s not exactly new, the document that allows it is 35 years old.

The same document allows a lay person to speak to the children instead of a priest.

True it’s not my favorite practice and I do think it happens way too often, but it’s not an illicit practice. There is an understanding that particular readings may be better given to the children in a simplified language with a reflection by a person more gifted at talking with children. If nothing else it can allow a priest to give an “adult” homily on a topic that he wouldn’t give with many pre-adolescent children in the assembly.
 
It’s not exactly new, the document that allows it is 35 years old.

The same document allows a lay person to speak to the children instead of a priest.

**I’ve never read this document, but I think that it’s wrong to allow such a replacement inside of the Liturgy (whether they be in another adjacent room or not–it’s still ‘part of the ongoing worship of the Liturgy’). I simply don’t like it AT ALL. **

True it’s not my favorite practice and I do think it happens way too often, but it’s not an illicit practice. There is an understanding that particular readings may be better given to the children in a simplified language with a reflection by a person more gifted at talking with children. If nothing else it can allow a priest to give an “adult” homily on a topic that he wouldn’t give with many pre-adolescent children in the assembly.
**I don’t think the problem lies in the ‘talent of the speaker’ or his particular gift at speaking to children. That has never been the case with priests, and homilies, period. For Catholics, priests are called to their vocation, whether or not they are good homilists (although they are required to speak on the Gospel as part of the Liturgy). It’s something we, as Catholics, have all experienced (good and bad homilists). Currently, our priest (a Byzantine Catholic priest) is FANTASTIC at speaking and giving the best messages on the Gospel (very deeply meaningful, interesting, AND he incorporated Church teachings, history and apologetics)!!! So, we’re fortunate. Our last priest was very sweet, but a terrible homilist (and I mean terrible). But that wasn’t his particular gift. Some Protestant communities actually ‘hire’ ministers (interview them) precisely because of their ‘preaching abilities’ (among other things, I’m sure)…but it’s a major plus if they are ‘good speakers’ and can ‘motivate’. **
**But like I mentioned in previous e-mails, the reason that the priest, and not a layperson, is to give homilies (that no person is invited up to speak in place of him)…is his unique position. He also has theological training, which qualifies him to preach in the Catholic Church. That means something. I guess you could say, it’s like sending in a person who has had training in CPR to do the work of an actual doctor of medicine. But it’s definitely NOT just about education (and who has the most). Some laypersons are highly educated (even in theology). But, the ordination of a priest is a higher calling which endows him the right to preach the Word of God as part of the Liturgy. This is not meant to be sutstituted by anyone, because of his calling to do so (regardless of his lack or abundant talent in speaking). **

**Did you read the article comments (by the Protestant) that I offered and the article, by any chance? Take the time, if you have it. They are really good (and not all one-sided either). There are points in it, that are expressed very well (better than I can state). I can’t imagine, sincerely, that Jesus and the Apostles (those of the early church) separated children from adults in order to preach to them as separate groups. I think that families are separated enough, in our regular lives nowadays (parents and kids are always doing separate things and do not always sit down at the supper table together). Christ established a Church which is really the model of a family. The family unit has more significance than we realize…and that family structure is how the Church operates (the Body of Christ with it’s Saints, our Blessed Mother, The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit). It’s the perfect family…of which we are members. We need to strive to uphold and protect our earthly family models…especially when we worship. We should do so, together…parents WITH the adults.

I know it’s very ‘nice’ and everyone loves to see children excel and be happy–versus being bored or restless. But I think there’s more to it, on a much deeper level. And I think that Catholics should really work hard at rejuvinating and really opening up the beauty and the depth of the CAtholic faith with eye-opening catechesis, MUCH-NEEDED Children’s-oriented apologetics (on their level), and social activities that promote fellowship and the desire for them to be at Church, period. Once they get the ‘apologetics and catechetical’ SLAMBLAST!!!..they WILL want to go to Mass!!! If they understand WHY confession is such a gift, they will WANT to go! We have such PROFOUNDLY beautiful gifts, from Christ, given to His beloved Church-----we really need to pass it on, to our children, and to other Catholics (all of us could use a big dose of authentic, grab-you-by-the-heart Catholic truth!!!

**
 
It’s not exactly new, the document that allows it is 35 years old.

I didn’t know that. But I’m assuming, because I never experienced the practice during my childhood, teen years, and early adulthood–that it is relatively new in use. That is, even though the document may have allowed the practice or suggested it, under certain circumstances, for many years-- it wasn’t something done regularly, at most parishes. I may have been away for a while (going to a Byzantine church)…but I can’t imagine that I would have never heard of it until last week!

The same document allows a lay person to speak to the children instead of a priest.

Which, if true, is a mistake. I can’t imagine why that would be allowed, given the fact that it’s part of the Liturgy and not part of regular catechetical lessons at another time. I am against this, even though I certainly am not, in any manner, trying to speak negatively of the laypersons who are participating–because they are very well-meaning, no doubt. I just wish we could use their own gifts at another, more appropriate, time. I simply feel that it’s a bad practice that needs to go by the wayside.

True it’s not my favorite practice****not mine, by a long shot (as a matter of fact, as the initiator of this post, I’m quite shocked by it, and sort of disillusioned, not of the Church, but this particular practice (which seems to be currently gaining some popularity). Honestly, I have had some difficulties (even as a Latin Rite Catholic), with some of the practices that have surfaced. Many of them are not out-and-out abuses (if done within certain guidelines), but I felt were still damaging. I am NOT a fan of ‘holding hands during the Our Father’ , for example, or receiving the Eucharist by hand. They just don’t feel right to me. **** and I do think they are happening with more and more frequency, despite the fact that the Church won’t make any announcements on them; although I know, from reading, that they are not actually validated by the Church (and I’ve heard that they are unnecessary and something added, according to what parishioners ‘like’.

I think they happen way too often, but it’s not an illicit practice. There is an understanding that particular readings may be better given to the children in a simplified language with a reflection by a person more gifted at talking with children. If nothing else it can allow a priest to give an “adult” homily on a topic that he wouldn’t give with many pre-adolescent children in the assembly.
**I don’t believe that there should be such a thing as an ‘adult homily’ and then a ‘children’s homily’, but that the one, from a priest, should suffice for all gathered…young, old, and inbetween. **

**These ideas are not bad in themselves; but they shouldn’t be done in the context of the Mass (but before or after). To say that 'people won’t come to Mass, so we make it so they will (by giving them what they like), when it gives them way too much control over something of which is NOT their right to control. It’s a Mass for the people, but it’s within the context of the Church.

I have to repeat that I am really shocked by it. My first reaction was one of disbelief. My friend (who has some bigotry toward the Catholic faith) almost seemed to get some enjoyment from telling me. I think it was a bit defensive though, because of a remark I made about Jr. Church (I think maybe, though I didn’t know it…she may have that at her church). She’s a Lutheran. I don’t know for sure, but I think maybe they do (although it may be done, more or less, like the Latin Rite Catholics). And I love her, regardless of her bit of prejudice. She’s really a very good person. She did to on to tell me (I think in her defensive mode) that they ‘held up letters that spelled out CHICAGO’, during the Liturgy–and people stood up to give a little word or two about their letter, and how it relates to their mission work in Chicago (?). If they did that in a Catholic Church, I would cringe, to be honest. It’s just irreverent and hoakey. I’m not a fan of that sort of thing, during Mass. Outside of Mass, fine. But I’m sure Lutherans, even though their worship is Liturgically-based, on much more apt to go in that direction.

I just don’t like flirting with these ‘borderline’ practices.**
 
My baby is 23 and I was doing Liturgy of the Word with children in a former parish when he was an infant, so it’s not a new practice. In some parishes they’ve never done it, in others it’s every week, in still others it happens only once in a while.

The latest document by the CCCB on the subject suggests that it be no more than once per month, for those aged 4-8 who haven’t received First Communion, and a true Liturgy of the Word. They’re getting the same thing as the adults except only 2 readings in a simplified language, they have the Creed, the intercessions and everything, they return to the assembly while the collection is being taken.

Considering that those kids don’t even have to be at Mass, I don’t think taking them out for their own readings is a big deal. As I said, it’s not my favorite practice, but my priest is not likely to stop it, considering he can no more say ‘no’ to anyone than I can fly to the moon. I’d stop it tomorrow to follow the bishops’ directives but he won’t.
 
**I haven’t seen it around, in our area of Western PA, but my friend was speaking of a parish in upper state New York somewhere. **

QUOTE=Phemie;3702453]My baby is 23 and I was doing Liturgy of the Word with children in a former parish when he was an infant, so it’s not a new practice. In some parishes they’ve never done it, in others it’s every week, in still others it happens only once in a while.

The latest document by the CCCB on the subject suggests that it be no more than once per month, for those aged 4-8 who haven’t received First Communion, and a true Liturgy of the Word.

**Another reason why I like the Byzantine Rite…first Holy Communion, Baptism, and Chrismation are all performed at infancy, and the children continue to receive the Eucharist from that point forward. The only thing that is delayed, is confession. That is, originally, how things were done in the early Church. I really like it.

I understand, now, that it’s apparently something legitimately done (though I hope it doesn’t extend itself into a complete dismissal of children for a Jr. Church. I think that will lead to problems with people (parents) not valuing the Mass and the Eucharist as much. If a Protestant Church, down the corner, has an even better Jr. Church (with more activities and better speakers for children)…whose to say that they won’t begin to blur things----not seeing the value of the Catholic Liturgy for children to be anything more than their services for children? **

**B]Anyway, people will do what they want to do…and, if allowed, it will probably become even more prevalent and occur more often (on every Sunday). I still object to it, and feel that it will probably lead to more people ‘leaving the Church’ than ‘bringing them into’–precisely because it downplays the cental focus of the Eucharist (because the children are ‘not of the age’ yet)–and, even though they don’t HAVE to come to Mass…I would never THINK of NOT bringing them!!! I think it just blurs the differences, for some people, of our Catholic Liturgy, and the basic worship (and kids’ programs/Jr. Church’s) at any Protestant one. Just my opinion. **

They’re getting the same thing as the adults except only 2 readings in a simplified language, they have the Creed, the intercessions and everything, they return to the assembly while the collection is being taken.

Yet they’re not with the adults, as a unified family, for a good part of the Liturgy (after all, it’s basically only an hour long).

Considering that those kids don’t even have to be at Mass, I don’t think taking them out for their own readings is a big deal. As I said, it’s not my favorite practice, but my priest is not likely to stop it, considering he can no more say ‘no’ to anyone than I can fly to the moon. I’d stop it tomorrow to follow the bishops’ directives but he won’t.

Well, I think that, if more people objected to it, it would fade away. I think, in reality, that people like it for MORE than the reason that 'the kids are getting SO MUCH MORE out of the Mass. I think that they like it a lot, because it’s easier for them to go to Mass, without the hassle of restless or bored kids. I speak from experience. I have to young children–one gets bored, and the other gets a bit restless. But they’re with me the entire time. And I certainly wouldn’t want it any other way. I was there for their baptism. I see them receive the Eucharist (I hold my littlest one). It’s a beautiful extension of family unity, and the unity of the family of God…the Church.
 
from: jimmyakin.typepad.com/defensor_fidei/2005/03/childrens_litur.html

A reader writes:

Before the first reading our parish asks for children between kindergarten and 4th grade to leave the church for the Childrens’ Liturgy of the Word. They return during the Nicene Creed.
A couple of things bother me about this. I can understand the attempt to make the liturgy more understandable to children and if it were a priest conducting it I wouldn’t have a problem. But a layperson does the readings behind a makeshift altar - lectern, candles, etc. - and, basically, does what could be construed as a homily. I know a layperson can not read the Gospel or give a homily so it doesn’t seem proper to me for children as old as ten to be leaving Mass for a substitute liturgy.
The other problem is the disruption it causes in the church with 60 or so kids filing out of the church during the first reading and returning during the Creed.
Am I making too much of this or would you consider it a liturgical abuse? It seems to me that at least those that have received their First Communion should be expected to remain in church.
I’m not a big fan of such alternative liturgies of the word, myself.

One parish I know has a particularly inept way of doing them: They have all the kids gather together and be escorted out while the choir sings “Let the children come to me. . . . Do not block the way,” which is unfortunate for a couple of reasons:
The children are being led away from Jesus’ Real Presence while the choir is singing about their being brought to him, and
The musical setting has an eerie resemblance to the tune “Camptown Races,” so whenever I hear it, I want to go “Let the children come to me. . . . Doo-DAH! Doo-DAH!”

That being said, such liturgies are currently permitted under Church law. There is a document (printed in the Sacramentary) called the Directory for Masses with Children that came out in 1973. Regarding these liturgies, it says:
Sometimes, moreover, if the place itself and the nature of the community permit, it will be appropriate to celebrate the liturgy of the word, including a homily, with the children in a separate, but not too distant, room. Then, before the eucharistic liturgy begins, the children are led to the place where the adults have meanwhile celebrated their own liturgy of the word [DMC 18].

Now, I’ve highlighted “and the nature of the community permit” because it indicates that the composition of some communities do not permit the separate celebration of the liturgy of the word for children. In my estimation, what they’re referring to is having enough qualified people available to lead a second liturgy of the word for the kids. That would include an extra priest or deacon to do the gospel and the homily. **The DMC does not waive the requirement of an ordained person to perform these tasks, and so parishes where an extra priest or deacon is not available to do these liturgies do not have a composition permitting their celebration.**Thus as far as I can tell, it is a liturgical abuse to have a separate liturgy of the word for the kids unless a priest or deacon does the gospel and the homily.

You may also note that I italicized “currently” in saying that such liturgies are currently permitted. I did that because the Directory for Masses with Children is waaaay too loosey-goosey for the kind of liturgy documents that the Holy See is cranking out these days. Among other things, it gives virtual carte blanche for further, unnamed “adaptations”–all in the interests of the children, of course!
There is no way the current administration in the Congregation for Divine Worship would approve such sweeping permissions for chaos and stupidity in childrens’ liturgies. As a result, the DMC is ripe for revision, and I suspect that its current iteration won’t be with us much longer. If Arinze et al., continue in office for a while, I suspect that it will end up getting revised as part of the current revamp of the Roman Missal.

One last note: Lest someone try to justify the gospel and homily reading as a further approved “adaption,” that won’t work. There are limits to what that clause can bear, and one of the limits is what Rome would be willing to sign-off on if asked. There is no way Arinze would sign off on laity reading the gospel and preaching homilies in front of children, so that dog won’t hunt.
 
I don’t disagree with you. I’m an EF kid, having been about 13 when the Vat. II changes came into effect. I remember going to Mass when I was 4 and not understanding anything but a few hymns. We didn’t need Children’s Liturgy and we were expected to stay still - the Vulcan knee squeeze was the consequence if we didn’t.🙂

Children back then were expected to sit quietly no matter what the situation. At least they were in my family. No showing up our parents at Mass allowed, they had to have perfect children at all times.

The thing with this is that people are demanding this Liturgy, the parents because they don’t want to have to be parents for that time and the older people so they don’t have to listen to children during that time or see them running up and down the aisles. One parent told me she’d no longer come to Mass if it wasn’t happening because she can’t control her kid – but the kid’s never been given a chance, she’s been taken to children’s liturgy since before she could walk. AFAIC, she just doesn’t want to parent her kid.

In our parish we have 2 different ones: a true Liturgy of the Word for the children who are preparing for First Communion, then the ‘craft session’ attended by the younger ones, many with their parents who sit around and chat while it’s going on. That one has been going on for at least 6-8 years.

We tried to stop the craft session and combine the older children of that group with the other group and only do it about once a month. But the parents revolted, whined to Father and he contradicted everything we’d told them about what the bishops wanted – in spite of the fact that he hadn’t read the document they’d issued and he’d seen the overview of what we were going to tell the parents.
 
from: jimmyakin.typepad.com/defensor_fidei/2005/03/childrens_litur.html

A reader writes:

It’s obvious that Jimmy Akin hasn’t read the entire document because it does explicitly give permission for a lay person to do the reflection/homily in place of a priest, even when a priest is present during the Mass with Children. By extension, while a deacon or priest would be preferred at the Liturgy of the Word with for Children, a lay person can read the Gospel and give the reflection.

Jimmy Akin may well be right that this document wouldn’t be released today but it does exist and it hasn’t be abrogated.
 
I don’t disagree with you. I’m an EF kid, having been about 13 when the Vat. II changes came into effect. I remember going to Mass when I was 4 and not understanding anything but a few hymns. We didn’t need Children’s Liturgy and we were expected to stay still - the Vulcan knee squeeze was the consequence if we didn’t.🙂

Children back then were expected to sit quietly no matter what the situation. At least they were in my family. No showing up our parents at Mass allowed, they had to have perfect children at all times.

The thing with this is that people are demanding this Liturgy, the parents because they don’t want to have to be parents for that time and the older people so they don’t have to listen to children during that time or see them running up and down the aisles. One parent told me she’d no longer come to Mass if it wasn’t happening because she can’t control her kid – but the kid’s never been given a chance, she’s been taken to children’s liturgy since before she could walk. AFAIC, she just doesn’t want to parent her kid.

In our parish we have 2 different ones: a true Liturgy of the Word for the children who are preparing for First Communion, then the ‘craft session’ attended by the younger ones, many with their parents who sit around and chat while it’s going on. That one has been going on for at least 6-8 years.

We tried to stop the craft session and combine the older children of that group with the other group and only do it about once a month. But the parents revolted, whined to Father and he contradicted everything we’d told them about what the bishops wanted – in spite of the fact that he hadn’t read the document they’d issued and he’d seen the overview of what we were going to tell the parents.
You’ve made some good points; but those that really scare me.

B]I’m very concerned over its popularity and its gaining momentum and frequency. The consequences of letting this happen are not good (the more people get used to it, the harder they’re going to fight to keep the practice). Poorly catechized adults have NO care about the real issues involved and the deeper ones. They could care less. Just what’s easy for them…


**These people will ‘leave the Church’ if they aren’t allowed to do it their way now. They don’t give a hoot about ‘what any bishop says’–if it isn’t what they want to hear. **]

**These are people who will most likely leave the Church if this practice is put to an end). They’ll be ex-Catholics, opting for a Protestant service and Jr. Church program for their kids–forgetting, altogether, what the reality of what they had ‘professed to believe’ about the Church and the Eucharist! /B]

**You know, I’ve heard a lot of opinions from those that are either for it, or feel helpless to stop it (so they go along with it)…but not as many from those Catholics who are NOT participating, despite it. It seems like the majority of Catholic parents like it…which worries me immensely. I don’t know how big a deal this is, as yet. But I think it was a mistake to make the guidelines so ‘wishy-washy’, as Jimmy Akin described them. **

**I’m not a ‘traditionalist’ in the dissident sense (not at all). But I am a very orthodox-traditional style Catholic, which is why I feel very much at home in the Byzantine Rite, which (from what I know) doesn’t have this problematic scenario. I am still very disappointed in these sorts of practices within the Latin Rite.

I’m dead set against this, and I feel that more Catholics should be making waves to have this put to an end, quickly.

Most of these parishes are having laypersons giving the homilies (when they don’t have an ‘extra’ ordained priest or deacon–which is obviously one of the criteria given in the document). Whether or not it’s due to a shortage of priests and/or plain-old unavailability…doesn’t give the okay for any subsitute! It should simply be canceled. But, NO…parents wouldn’t like that (they are getting too used to it). Bad, bad, bad idea.

Give people an inch…they’ll take a mile. And if you take it away, they may walk out the doors. I can’t believe that there are Catholics out there that would do so (knowing what they are supposed to know and believe)…but, with the lack of well-catechized Catholic adults, I’m not really that surprised.

I’d like to know what Scott Hahn, Tim Staples,Steve Ray, etc…(many of them converts) and other apologists think…those that *were ***Protestants and have embraced the Catholic faith and Christ in the **Eucharist!!! **I’m guessing that they wouldn’t like such abuses and overstepping of laity for the sake of convenience and niceness.

I’m very distressed by this. It’s got a lot of potential for disaster. I, for one, know WHY I’m a Catholic. I wouldn’t trade the Catholic Liturgy for a Protesants service and Jr. Church (no offense, but true, nonetheless)! **
 
It’s obvious that Jimmy Akin hasn’t read the entire document because it does explicitly give permission for a lay person to do the reflection/homily in place of a priest, even when a priest is present during the Mass with Children. By extension, while a deacon or priest would be preferred at the Liturgy of the Word with for Children, a lay person can read the Gospel and give the reflection.

Jimmy Akin may well be right that this document wouldn’t be released today but it does exist and it hasn’t be abrogated.
**If that is so, then why aren’t more Catholics rejecting the practice? **

**Is there an exact quote, from the document, that we could see (I tried to find the document, oline, but haven’t yet)…because I find it rather difficult to believe that it states permission for a layperson, in the absence of an extra priest or deacon, to read the Gospel and give a homily. Do you have a link to the complete document? **
 
Jimmy Akin wrote:

Now, I’ve highlighted “and the nature of the community permit” because it indicates that the composition of some communities do not permit the separate celebration of the liturgy of the word for children. In my estimation, what they’re referring to is having enough qualified people available to lead a second liturgy of the word for the kids. That would include an extra priest or deacon to do the gospel and the homily. The DMC does not waive the requirement of an ordained person to perform these tasks, and so parishes where an extra priest or deacon is not available to do these liturgies do not have a composition permitting their celebration.
[BThus as far as I can tell, it is a liturgical abuse to have a separate liturgy of the word for the kids unless a priest or deacon does the gospel and the homily
 
Okay.

It says, at the end of that rather alarming sentence…

In this matter the norms soon to be issued by the Congregation for the Clergy should be observed.

And, what are those norms that should be observed?
AFAIK, nothing since has clarified that.

This is an overview of the CCCB document on the subject.
 
AFAIK, nothing since has clarified that.

This is an overview of the CCCB document on the subject.
From:
adoremus.org/1103ChildrenLiturgy.html

What Have We Done to Our Children?
How Catholic children became guinea-pigs for liturgical experiments

Part I of Three-part series
by Susan Benofy

The ink was barely dry on the Second Vatican Council’s Constitution on the Liturgy when reformers began experimenting with their most radical innovations – from freely altering texts to ritual dance – not on consenting adults, but on the unsuspecting school children who would become “Generation X”.

Susan Benofy, research editor of the Adoremus Bulletin, reviews the development of these ideas as they are reflected in the principal documents of the period, the 1973 Directory for Masses with Children (DMC), the special Eucharistic Prayers for children, and the more recent “Children’s Lectionary”, in this three-part series.
Links to Part II | Part III
adoremus.org/1203ChildrenLiturgy.html
adoremus.org/0204ChildrenLiturgy.html

Part I
The Directory for Masses with Children
“I am most interested of all in the future of our little children”, wrote Bishop Robert Tracy of Baton Rouge in his 1966 memoir of the Second Vatican Council.

“A baby who is now two years old will be ten years old within eight short years… All the services of the Church will have been meaningful to that child from the start, and further the child will have been trained in religion classes to a dynamic understanding of his mission in life to project the Presence of Christ into his community”, enthused the bishop.

“Is that child going to be any better than his ancestors were? Who can say? But one thing is sure: thanks to the Council, he is going to have many more opportunities for meaningful religion than they ever had!”

Bishop Tracy made this prediction in his memoir, American Bishop at the Vatican Council (p. 70). It is typical of the sort of liturgical optimism that prevailed in those heady days.

But the “meaningful religion” and “dynamic understanding” the bishop expected for children born at the close of the Council – children who are now 40 years old – did not happen as he anticipated.

Children continued to be restless at Mass; teens still complained of boredom. And that has not changed. The quest for “meaningful” Masses, pursued so hotly in the late 1960s, did not bear the expected fruit. However, that failure did not then – and has not now – stopped the “do-it-yourself” mode the liturgical experts of the 1960s promoted.
Special liturgies for children used readings, prayers and other practices different from those used at ordinary (“adult”) Masses – and still do. Despite the less-than-spectacular success, many parishes today have special children’s or “family” Masses on most Sundays, offer “teen” Masses, as well as Masses for school children on weekdays.From the distance of three decades, it is by now clear that children’s “needs” were often used as an excuse for breaking the rules. Innovations were said to make Mass “meaningful” for young children. Eliminating the Gloria or skipping the confiteor, changing, omitting or dramatizing Scripture readings, “homilies” by non-priests, adding new “tropes” to the Lamb of God, inventing “memorial acclamations”, performing “liturgical dance” – all these have their genesis in the flexibility liturgists demanded years ago in order to adapt Masses for children.
Are separate liturgies for children a good idea? Does the Church actually permit different liturgies for children? Should it? If so, how much license to change the Mass is permitted? An evaluation of the past three decades of experience with special Masses for children for is long overdue.
We can start by reviewing the official documents that govern children’s Masses: 1) Directory for Masses With Children (DMC - 1973); 2) the Eucharistic Prayers for Masses with Children (1974), and 3) the Lectionary for Masses with Children (LMC * 1991)

The Directory for Masses with Children was issued by the Congregation for Divine Worship (CDW) on November 1, 1973. It led to the creation of the Eucharistic Prayers for Masses with Children, and, ultimately to a separate Lectionary for Masses with Children.

DMC 52 says that one of the four Eucharistic Prayers from the Missal is to be used “until the Apostolic See makes other provisions for Masses with children”. Pope Paul VI began to make such provisions immediately. His approval of the DMC was accompanied by authorization for the CDW to draw up two or three Eucharistic Prayers for children for use by the entire Church. Three Eucharistic Prayers for Masses with Children were approved on November 1, 1974.

DMC 43 suggests that the Lectionary may be adapted to children, but it left the details for producing it to the national conferences of bishops. In 1991, the US bishops approved a Lectionary for Masses with Children, along with an accompanying Introduction.

What do these documents permit in liturgies with children? How do they fit in with the liturgical reform following the Council?

The Children’s Mass Project
After the Constitution on the Liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium (SC), appeared in 1963, the reform of the rites was entrusted to a group known as the Consilium (council) for the Implementation of the Liturgical Reform. Members of this body were bishops, and a large group of experts were appointed as advisors. Its work was assigned to several committees of experts. One of the most influential of these was the committee on revisions of the Order of Mass, known as Coetus X (Group 10). (Later the Consilium would be incorporated into the Congregation for Divine Worship, and its experts became consulters of the CDW.)

Many of the liturgical experts of Coetus X advocated simplifying the basic structure of the Mass while also allowing variations to be made by any priest-celebrant. As the liturgical reform progressed, it became clear that the new rite would not be as “flexible” as the liturgists had hoped – so more and more liturgists demanded adaptations for special groups, including children. Some just made changes on their own authority, as Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, Secretary of the Consilium and later of the CDW, recalls in his history The Reform of the Liturgy: 1948-1975:
 
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B]Not only were requests made for adaptations; some liturgical commissions went ahead on their own and issued regulations for Masses with children. In other instances adaptations were made by individual priests or planned by catechists (p. 438).

Thus the Congregation for Divine Worship began an inquiry on the possibility of adapting the Mass for children in March 1971.

The revised Missal had been approved for only about a year, and translations of the Missal into vernacular languages were not yet complete. The liturgy situation was very confused. There had not been time to evaluate seriously how (or whether) children (or adults, for that matter) were benefiting from the new rite. Despite this, liturgists were already insisting on further adaptations, and were making their own changes to the Mass without authorization.

To prepare for the Children’s Mass project, the CDW sent a survey to the presidents of 109 national liturgical commissions. Just over half of the Commissions responded to the poll. On this basis, a report to the Congregation on the survey recommended the development of a directory that would give “concrete ways of adaptation that the episcopal conferences can then develop more fully” (Bugnini, p. 440).

Monsignor Balthasar Fischer, a long-time professor and co-founder of the Liturgical Institute at Trier, Germany, headed the Consilium committee assigned to develop both the DMC and the Eucharistic Prayers for Masses with Children.

Fischer’s committee decided to “launch a second inquiry among a limited number of experts” (Bugnini, p. 441).

The replies to this “limited” inquiry filled a 75-page book, which was used as the basis of the discussions of the group that eventually drafted a Directory for Masses with Children, incorporating many of the adaptations proposed.

The Directory was approved by Pope Paul VI and promulgated on November 1, 1973. It is considered a supplement to the General instruction of the Roman Missal (GIRM) and it appears after the GIRM in altar missals.

The Directory consists of three chapters. The first chapter points out that children must receive catechesis on the Mass, and need prior experience of prayer and liturgy, especially within the family. The Directory says that parents should teach their children to pray and pray with them. Then, echoing Bishop Tracy’s comment, the Directory confidently predicts that:

Children who have been prepared in this way from their earliest years and who have had the opportunity of going to Mass with the family when they so wish, will readily begin to sing and to pray in the liturgical assembly and indeed will already be experiencing something of the meaning of the Eucharistic mystery (DMC §10).

The second chapter outlines what can be done to accommodate children when the congregation is primarily adults, and mostly suggests how provisions already in the GIRM can be used to address the needs of children. (The children may sing one of the chants of the Mass, for example. Or they may participate in the Offertory procession. Or the priest may also address children in his introductory remarks.)

The Directory goes beyond the GIRM, however, in suggesting that “the children may sometimes have their own Liturgy of the Word in a place apart from the main congregation” (DMC 17).

Furthermore, DMC 19 says that adaptations that are permitted for Masses with young children may also be used at regular Masses that have many children present, “whenever the bishop permits”.

Despite wording that restricts these practices to occasional use, many parishes initiated weekly Masses featuring either a separate Liturgy of the Word for Children, or made adaptations intended only for children’s liturgies in Masses for ordinary congregations.
The Directory’s third and longest chapter concerns Masses at which the congregation consists primarily of children who have not yet reached the age of preadolescence. It is here that the most radical adaptations, that is, practices that are not permitted at ordinary Masses, are advanced. Some of these adaptations are:

To make it easier for the children to participate in the singing of the Gloria, Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei, popular adaptations of these texts with appropriate musical settings can be authorized by the competent authority, even though they do not adhere strictly to the liturgical text (DMC 31 * emphasis added).

The Introductory Rites are intended to prepare the community to hear the Word of God:

Therefore every effort should be made to create this disposition in the children and not to jeopardize it by any excess of rites which are set forth here.

It is sometimes permissible to omit one or other element of the introductory rite or perhaps to expand another element (DMC 40 - emphasis added).

If the two or three readings appointed for Sundays or feasts can only be understood with difficulty by the children, then it is allowable to read only one or two of them. The gospel reading, however, should never be omitted (DMC 42).

In fact, the Directory says, if all the prescribed readings seem too difficult, another reading may be substituted, or particular passages that may cause “difficulty” for children may be omitted. (DMC 43).
The Directory authorizes “parts-reading” of Scripture texts:

Depending on the text of the reading, it may be helpful for the children to read it in parts distributed among them, as is provided for the reading of the Lord’s passion during Holy Week (§47).

The Directory states that the homily is important at Masses for children, thus, “it can sometimes take the form of a dialogue with the children, unless it is preferred that they listen in silence” (DMC 48).

It goes further – lay people may preach to the children:

With the consent of the pastor or rector of the church, nothing forbids one of the adults who is participating in a Mass with children from speaking to the children after the gospel reading, especially if the priest finds it difficult to adapt himself to the mentality of children. In this matter the norms issued by the Congregation for the Clergy should be observed (DMC 24).

Most of the adaptations in the Directory, said to be particularly suited to the mentality of children, were neither new nor were they originally devised in solely in order to meet children’s liturgical “needs”. Liturgists had previously proposed these same adaptations – unsuccessfully – for incorporation into the revised Rite of Mass for all congregations.

Archbishop Bugnini mentions a 1965 discussion by Coetus X of an early proposal for a revised rite of Mass:

A point on which there was disagreement was the succession of three songs: opening song, Kyrie, and Gloria, which could make the early part of the Mass somewhat slow and heavy (Bugnini, p. 343).
 
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All three of these parts of the Entrance Rite of Mass remain in today’s ritual – and some liturgists still complain that the Entrance Rite is a “cluttered vestibule”. It is still common, after three decades, for liturgy guides and workshops to recommend that the Entrance Rites be shortened – usually by dropping the Gloria except on especially festive Sundays.

Similarly, omitting one of the pre-Gospel Scripture readings had been proposed already in 1966. When the Consilium discussed making three readings obligatory at Sunday Masses, some experts objected that “the faithful are not yet prepared to listen to three readings” (Bugnini, p. 415).

Other alterations and adaptations found in the Directory for Masses with Children are also practices favored by liturgists for general use.

For example, many popular liturgical composers today feel free to “modify” texts of the parts of the Mass, by paraphrasing the Gloria or adding “tropes” (extra phrases) to the Agnus Dei. These compositions are widely used in ordinary Masses, even though modification of the text is permitted only for children’s Masses – and even then it is required that the altered text be approved by the bishops’ conference. (A rule that is honored only in the breach.)

“Sacred Play”
Was the liturgists’ objective in injecting these innovative practices into Masses for children meant to circumvent resistance to their plans for “reform”? Indeed, the reactions of some commentators when the DMC was issued suggest this. The DMC was praised not because it would be helpful to children, but precisely because it promoted norms that liturgists viewed as being applicable to standard Masses.

For example, in 1974, Father Aelred Tegels OSB, editor of the influential liturgical journal Worship, said that the DMC “proposes norms which apply to pastoral celebration of Eucharistic liturgy generally” (Worship Vol. 48, no. 6).

Father Tegels contended that what DMC says about children (“the words and signs of the liturgy are not sufficiently adapted to their understanding”) is true for adults as well. He suggests that some provisions of the DMC could also be used in adult Masses – such as “liturgical dance”. After noting the Directory’s stress on the processions of the Mass, Father Tegels writes:

Surely we should explore, in this regard, the potential of ritual dance for participation, and not with only children in mind (p. 369 * emphasis added).

Where would this lead? Let’s skip ahead. Ten years later, an international conference on Liturgy with Young Christians was sponsored by Catholic University of America. The papers were collected into a volume entitled The Sacred Play of Children (New York: Seabury Press, 1983).

Two members of Coetus X contributed to the collection, and both praise the DMC as superior to the GIRM as an implementation of the Constitution on the Liturgy.

In the Preface to Sacred Play, Monsignor Frederick McManus, former director of the US Bishops Committee on the Liturgy (BCL) Secretariat, a founder of the International Committee on English in the Liturgy (ICEL) and long-time member of its Advisory Board, notes that the DMC “shares the limitations of other official documents”, and adds:

As a slight historical note, it may be added that the Directory for Masses with Children perhaps reflects better the liturgical intent of the Second Vatican Council than does the fully developed Order of Mass itself. In other words, the quite basic rite and the invitation to creativity, adaptation, and paraphrase that are given in the Directory may, if thoughtfully implemented better achieve the noble simplicity and the pastorally motivated clarity enjoined by the Constitution on the Liturgy (p. viii * emphasis added).

In his contribution to Sacred Play, Jesuit Father Joseph Gélineau comments on reading the DMC a decade after it was published:

I expected to feel some regret as I do sometimes for the post-conciliar Ordo Missae. If the latter were drafted today it would undoubtedly be different on various points.

But on the contrary I marveled once again at the fact that this insufficiently known and imperfectly utilized document not only had not aged but that it had often been ahead of normal practice in Masses in which children participate… It constitutes one of the best practical commentaries on the Ordo Missae of Paul VI (Sacred Play p. 27 * emphasis added).
Elizabeth McMahon Jeep, editor of Children’s Daily Prayer, an adaptation of the Liturgy of the Hours for children published annually by Liturgy Training Publications of the Archdiocese of Chicago, also contributed an essay to Sacred Play. Ms. Jeep believes that liturgists feel “creative and independent” only when adapting the liturgy for children:

It is my opinion that in the majority of parishes nothing at all is happening on the adult level, but that there is a small group of liturgists working with children and experiencing some measure of success, flexibility, and growing sophistication… Children’s liturgists have had the freedom to work at it for years; they have had a chance to learn, to make mistakes, and to grow (Sacred Play p. 32).

The liturgists to learn and grow? What about the children? Where is the concern that the mistakes the liturgists feel free to make can cause the children spiritual harm?

Evidently most professional liturgists viewed the Directory for Masses with Childrenn not so much as authorizing certain minor changes in the Mass in order to respond to the special needs of children – with the objective of helping them more fully and actively participate in the Sacred Liturgy --** but rather as a license for limitless liturgical imagination and experimentation**. Did those who worked on this “children’s” project also see it as a means of “indoctrinating” children with an eye the future? Almost certainly. Congrega-tions of children, obviously, could not offer disconcerting resistance even to the most extreme liturgical tinkering by experts. Catholic children provided an irresistibly vulnerable field for the liturgists’ “Sacred Play”.

The same pattern will be evident when we review the development of special Eucharistic Prayers for children and the Lectionary for Masses with Children in Part II.

…:Certainly liturgical abuses contributed to this situation – and many practices common at Masses and Liturgies of the Word for children are definitely abuses.
The Vatican and several US bishops have asked for a study of the use of the Lectionary for Masses with Children. Any serious study will have to consider the larger question of children’s Liturgies in general. We can only pray that when the revised Children’s Lectionary is presented for a vote, the bishops will seriously consider whether in practice separate Liturgies of the Word for children and “adapted” Masses have fostered faith and strengthened spirits, or whether they are likely to produce **another “lost generation”./**B]
In the Liturgy, Catholic children should receive the Bread of Life - and know what they are receiving. To ensure that Catholic children are offered wholesome formation that will nourish their faith, bishops will need to be vigilant in protecting children in their care from those who, in an unending desire for “creative adaptation” of the Catholic faith, would give them a stone."

IN CONCLUSION…A BAD, BAD, IDEA.
 
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