Children Switching Rites

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I do hope that I am putting the following as sensitively as possible.

So I will not actually name any Rites, I will only say “Rite A” and “Rite B”.

This is a hypothetical situation that I am just curious to know the answer to.

Let’s say that there is a Catholic family that has minor children. The whole family are canonical, practicing members of “Rite A”.

The Dad and Mom of this family are very interested in the liturgy and spirituality of “Rite B”. They don’t have problems with Rite A, they just like Rite B a whole lot.

Now here are my two questions, both of which NEED answering:
  1. Can Dad and Mom canonically transfer themselves AND their minor children from Rite A to Rite B?
  2. Let’s say that when one, several, or all of the children grows up, he/they want to transfer BACK to Rite A. Can they do this, since the original transfer happened when they were minor children, and now they want to make an adult decision to go back to, and for the rest of their lives, remain in Rite A?
Thanks in advance for the answers!
 
A canonical change of Ritual Church can only happen once during a person’s lifetime. In the situation you describe I would advise the family to simply attend the Ritual Church of their choice. There is no reason to change ritual Churches unless one is seeking ordination.

Deacon Ed
 
I don’t know the answer to your query.

But why would this family go through the rigamarole of switching to Rite B when they can attend and receive sacraments in that rite for the rest of their lives without doing so?

Unless someone was planning to join a religious order or seminary in Rite B, it would be a pretty pointless canonical exercise.

Right now, particularly in the US, there are any number of Catholics attending at churches outside of their rite, and there are undoubtably many of them who don’t even know that they are attending outside their rite. But its just not an important factor.
 
But what if the situation I described actually happened, and the children REALLY wanted to canonically go back to Rite A?

Would this be possible, considering that the children did not make the original decision to switch, the parents did?

Thanks.
 
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GoLatin:
But what if the situation I described actually happened, and the children REALLY wanted to canonically go back to Rite A?

Would this be possible, considering that the children did not make the original decision to switch, the parents did?

Thanks.
Under the current law, no, it would not be possible unless the children were girls and married a person of the other Ritual Church (not Rite). Then a change could be effected.

Deacon Ed
 
But what if the situation I described actually happened, and the children REALLY wanted to canonically go back to Rite A?
Even if they weren’t canonically allowed to change, they could still attend and receive the sacraments at the Catholic church of their own choosing, so it wouldn’t be a huge loss (except if they wanted to enter an order or the seminary.)
 
So if the parents switch Ritual Churches, the kids go with them too? Are you sure in this case it wouldn’t be just the parents who switch and the kids remain as they were before their parents’ change?
 
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GoLatin:
But what if the situation I described actually happened, and the children REALLY wanted to canonically go back to Rite A?

Would this be possible, considering that the children did not make the original decision to switch, the parents did?
Deacon Ed:
Under the current law, no, it would not be possible unless the children were girls and married a person of the other Ritual Church (not Rite). Then a change could be effected.
My Melkite brother,

I regret that I have to contradict you, but both Latin and Eastern Codes provide that, after the 14th year, children whose canonical enrollment was changed by the action of a parent or parents prior to that time may return to the Ritual Church of their origin.

Latin Code:

Canon 111
§1 Through the reception of baptism a child becomes a member of the Latin Church if the parents belong to that Church or, should one of them not belong to it, if they have both by common consent chosen that the child be baptised in the Latin Church: if that common consent is lacking, the child becomes a member of the Ritual Church to which the father belongs.

§2 Any candidate for baptism who has completed the fourteenth year of age may freely choose to be baptised either in the Latin Church or in another autonomous Ritual Church; in which case the person belongs to the Church which he or she has chosen.

Canon 112
§1 After the reception of baptism, the following become members of another autonomous Ritual Church:

1° those who have obtained permission from the Apostolic See;

2° a spouse who, on entering marriage or during its course, has declared that he or she is transferring to the autonomous Ritual Church of the other spouse; on the dissolution of the marriage, however, that person may freely return to the Latin Church;

3° the children of those mentioned in nn. 1 and 2 who have not completed their fourteenth year, and likewise in a mixed marriage the children of a Catholic party who has lawfully transferred to another Ritual Church; on completion of their fourteenth year, however, they may return to the Latin Church.

Eastern Code:

Canon 29
§1 By virtue of baptism, a child who has not yet completed his fourteenth year of age is enrolled in the Church sui iuris of the Catholic father; or the Church sui iuris of the mother if only the mother is Catholic or if both parents by agreement freely request it, with due regard for particular law established by the Apostolic See.

§2 If the child who has not yet completed his fourteenth year is:
(1) born of an unwed mother, he is enrolled in the Church sui iuris to which the mother belongs;
(2) born of unknown parents, he is to be enrolled in the Church sui iuris of those in whose care he has been legitimately committed are enrolled; if it is a case of an adoptive father and mother, 1should be applied;
(3) born of non-baptized parents, the child is to be a member of the Church sui iuris of the one who is responsible for his education in the Catholic faith.

Canon 30
Anyone to be baptized who has completed the fourteenth year of age can freely select any Church sui iuris in which he or she tthen is enrolled by virtue of baptism received in that same Church, with due regard for particular law established by the Apostolic See.

Canon 34
If the parents, or the Catholic spouse in the case of a mixed marriage, transfer to another Church sui iuris, children under fourteen years old by the law itself are enrolled in the same Curch; if in a marriage of Catholics only one parent transfers to another Church sui iuris, the children transfer only if both parents consent. Upon completion of the fourteenth year of age, the children can return to the original Church sui iuris.

Many years,

Neil
 
Deacon Ed:
A canonical change of Ritual Church can only happen once during a person’s lifetime. In the situation you describe I would advise the family to simply attend the Ritual Church of their choice. There is no reason to change ritual Churches unless one is seeking ordination.
Deacon Ed,

The widespread and oft-repeated belief to the contrary, there is no longer any provision in Canon Law that dictates that only a single change of canonical enrollment can be had in a lifetime. One could, provided one could convince the appropriate Ordinaries, change as frequently as one might care to do so.
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Kielbasi:
But why would this family go through the rigamarole of switching to Rite B when they can attend and receive sacraments in that rite for the rest of their lives without doing so?

Unless someone was planning to join a religious order or seminary in Rite B, it would be a pretty pointless canonical exercise.

Right now, particularly in the US, there are any number of Catholics attending at churches outside of their rite, and there are undoubtably many of them who don’t even know that they are attending outside their rite. But its just not an important factor.
I would disagree with both of you as to the value of seeking a Change of Canonical Enrollment.
 
Sorry, hit “submit” too soon above and then got distracted in the course of editing and exceeded the allowed time. I’ll ask the mod to delete the above post.
Deacon Ed:
A canonical change of Ritual Church can only happen once during a person’s lifetime. In the situation you describe I would advise the family to simply attend the Ritual Church of their choice. There is no reason to change ritual Churches unless one is seeking ordination.
Deacon Ed,

The widespread and oft-repeated belief to the contrary, there is no longer any provision in Canon Law that dictates that only a single change of canonical enrollment can be had in a lifetime. One could, provided one could convince the appropriate Ordinaries, change as frequently as one might care to do so.
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Kielbasi:
But why would this family go through the rigamarole of switching to Rite B when they can attend and receive sacraments in that rite for the rest of their lives without doing so?

Unless someone was planning to join a religious order or seminary in Rite B, it would be a pretty pointless canonical exercise.

Right now, particularly in the US, there are any number of Catholics attending at churches outside of their rite, and there are undoubtably many of them who don’t even know that they are attending outside their rite. But its just not an important factor.
Kielbasi and Deacon Ed,

I would disagree with both of you as to the value of seeking a Change of Canonical Enrollment. The fullest sense of belonging to the Ritual Church in which one worships is, for many, reason enough to do so.

One can (and many do) worship for years, even decades, without formally petitioning Change and neither feel nor are made to feel any less a part of their “adopted” parish family.

It is still, however, not the same as knowing, when you see, meet, very possibly speak with the Patriarch or Major-Archbishop or Metropolitan or Eparch of the Church sui iuris which you attend that he is your Patriarch or Major-Archbishop or Metropolitan or Eparch.

When, perhaps looking more than a wee bit different from others in the parish (not a lot of red-haired Syrians or Lebanese 😃 ), you are asked by someone from outside “do you come here often?”, there is a special feeling in being able to look to them and say, with love, justifiable pride, and without reservation or explanation - “I belong here; I’m a (Melkite, Ruthenian, Syriac, Ukrainian etc.) Catholic”.

This fall, it will be 41 years since I came to the Melkite Church; it is approximately 39 years now since I was formally translated from the Latin Rite to what was then erroneously termed the Greico-Melkite Rite. I have never looked back or regretted the choice that I made and I remain forever grateful to Archimandrite Lucien Malouf, of blessed memory, who encouraged my pursuit of that change in a day when it was harder to come by, and Richard Cardinal Cushing, also of blessed memory, who enthusiastically urged approval of my petition by Rome.

Many years,

Neil
 
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