Children will never be taught the authentic faith

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Again some may be trying their best but may have come from backgrounds of questionable teaching themselves.
 
I’m not arguing against that. I’m just against the idea of people sending their kids to school for socialization.
 
This is the reason many leave the Catholic faith. If during our homilies at mass, Priest and Deacons preached sermons like Evangelicals and Pentecostals do, I guarantee the CC would experience a world wide revival. At the end of many Protestants services, the Minister calls us to dedicate our lives to Christ and turn away from sin.
 
The Bible came from the Church.

If you want to understand something from a Tom Clancy book, who better to explain it than Tom Clancy.
 
Sometimes I wonder if this search for authenticity is actually part of every cradle catholic’s faith journey and our reactions come down to our personality.

Some of us like me have some gaps in their upbringing, but blame theirselves for their shortcomings and had bouts of despair and scruples.

Some blame their parents but hold the church in respect and esteem. Eventually becoming parents themselves and either seeing it all through new eyes or doing their best to be different.

Some blame the church and I am most uncomfortable with this. The church has to teach basic truths first. That isn’t the same as watering it down, it’s just starts with main ideas and your willingness as a pupil determines if you get or seek out the rest.

The blame game in all three cases is the devil’s voice. You, your parents, and the church are good and loved by God.
 
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The blame game in all three cases is the devil’s voice. You, your parents, and the church are good and loved by God.
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Honestly, when your not taught one mortal sin from the age of 7 can throw you in hell for eternity…
And constantly taught that no matter what we do, God forgives and were all going to heaven and that God loves us and wants us to be happy - you grow up not knowing any different. I don’t think hell was mentioned once to us.
 
To be fair, gender neutral uniforms should be the least of our concerns 😂 I wish I had to wear pants. Shaving my legs sucked.

On a more serious note, I agree. I had no idea that you should refrain from Communion if you’re in mortal sin. My parents didn’t know too. But I’m grateful for that ignorance because at least I know how to educate my children in the future
 
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When was this? Someone I know said that the Catholic schools been pretty secularized by the 50s and 60s when he was in school.
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I went to Catholic schools in the 1980’s and early 90’s, by which time things had gotten much worse. VC2 was taken by school boards as a blanket mandate for the ruthless elimination of anything that was “old fashioned”. This basically meant that “old” Catholicism was discarded wholesale, and was replaced with a secular (“objective”) approach to teaching religion, combined with a few token reminders of an infantilized, huggable version of Christianity that the school boards, by then populated by the “liberated” baby boomers, had cooked up on their own initiative.
 
“You cannot give what you do not have”. Some parents do not have the knowledge of the faith to pass on to their kids. This does not meal all or even most parents fall in that category, but, some get the short straw when it comes to evangelizing parents.
 
I totally agree that parents have a responsibility to teach their children their faith. In fact, I’d say that parents are the most important teacher that children will have when it comes to the faith.
 
I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. Sure, the boards were filled with lay people as unfortunately there weren’t enough clerics or nuns (people who live out their faith daily in the sacraments) to fill these positions. Those who did fill them simply weren’t and aren’t as well versed in the faith as their predecessors. And these people were being spiritually guided by those who were interpreting Vatican II to their liking rather than to the letter. We also have to contend with evermore power-hungry governments trying to dictate to us what we should be teaching in the very scholastic systems we created; the same can be said of our hospitals. I went to Catholic school in the 90s as well and saw a couple sisters the odd time only early on.
 
but whats the point in catholic schools if they are not teaching catholic teaching anymore? Just make all of them non-faith, the non-faith ones still sing hymns and stuff.
 
I taught in the UK. The scary gender neutral uniforms you mention are girls getting to wear trousers. 😱 they’re useful in the cold weather and for PE.
 
Dont mock me, they are allowing boys in skirts and pinafores, if they think they are born in the wrong gender. Which the catholic church has always been against. The bible even talks about it.
 
Chill. You spoke about gender neutral uniforms; that’s trousers for girls. I was teaching at a school that went through that whole thing and in Australia we’re doing it here too. You’re now trying to move the discussion to transgirls being allowed to dress in skirts, which is a separate issue. If you worry about men in skirts so much I’d suggest you never head north 😉
 
I went to Catholic schools in the 1980’s and early 90’s, by which time things had gotten much worse. VC2 was taken by school boards as a blanket mandate for the ruthless elimination of anything that was “old fashioned”. .
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@Roguish , I was at the chalk face during those years , and what you say was not happening in the schools where I taught , nor in other schools I knew .

The Second Council of the Vatican was not taken by school boards as a blanket mandate for the ruthless elimination of anything that was “old fashioned”.
 
As difficult as it might sound, I think many parishes need to consider shutting down their Catholic schools and reinvesting the money into religious education, faith formation, vocations support, needs of the community, etc. Even a small Catholic school (for approximation) of 200 students paying $5000 per year tuition is $1,000,000 per year. Even if only 20% of that money was redirected it would mean another $400,000 per year for the parish. Considering the time, effort, cost, and liability of running a school compared to the amount of students who actually remain Catholic (although I realize that not all students are actually Catholic, but just for the purpose of this post), the benefit just does not justify the cost in most cases anymore.
 
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