They are!
Please tell you that these are going away? Ok. I will:
There’s no guarantee of that. Far from it. I reiterate what I said in this post on why it is a bad idea to keep repeating these speculative rumors about how everything we don’t like in the liturgy is surely going to be changing real soon now.
Well, they’re not in the Latin Missal, which makes sense since they were never to be used in Latin. I’ve seen an article that said that to use them the priest will have to use the present Sacramentary. I’ve also heard that they are being revised and might come out on a supplementary, the same way they did before. Who knows?
Nobody yet, at least not publicly! Hence the danger in making surefire pronouncements.Who knows?
Of course come November the term ‘Sacramentary’ is to be retired and the term Roman Missal is to be used. Rome made it clear that what we have now is in no way a Sacramentary, despite ICEL’s use of the term, and that terminology is to be corrected with the promulgation of the Third Edition.
Well good luck with that one.
But that’s because it’s written “Sacramentary” in big gold letters on the book that’s in use now. One can only assume that the new book will have “Roman Missal” written on it in big gold letters, a reminder to use the term, if you will. Yeah, I know, old habits die hard.Well good luck with that one.
We’ve been using the term “sacramentary” for decades now. Newly ordained priests might be using the term “roman missal” but anyone ordained pre-2000 or so is going to continue to say “sacramentary.” Perhaps we can start some threads on here asking, “My priest/bishop said the word sacramentary, to what Vatican office can I report him?”
Simply create a new user account at improperuseofthewordsacramentary.va, follow the directions to complete the online forms (~45 min), supply your credit card information to make a $500 security deposit to indemnify the priest against wasted time should the complaint be adjudged meritless, and albino monks will take it from there.
Yea, and when one of these ‘pre-2000’ priests tell an altar server to go get the "Sacramentary’ out of the sacristy and the server never shows up… because there is no book with that title to be found.
LOL, yes and no. Even now if I tell a kid to get the sacramentary s/he still can’t find it even with the word written on the side. So I guess nothing will change in that regard.Yea, and when one of these ‘pre-2000’ priests tell an altar server to go get the "Sacramentary’ out of the sacristy and the server never shows up… because there is no book with that title to be found.
The priests might be old, but the altar boys aren’t, and they can read
Father, you have to send them to get ‘the altar book’.LOL, yes and no. Even now if I tell a kid to get the sacramentary s/he still can’t find it even with the word written on the side. So I guess nothing will change in that regard.
I’ve also seen this as a problem. It doesn’t seem like much of a service to people to perpetuate their ignorance. Rather, the loving thing is to teach them lovingly the correct terms.Father, you have to send them to get ‘the altar book’.
Honestly, I shake my head at the way we don’t use our liturgical language properly and the confusion that can result.
A few years ago I was doing a review of the procedures for readers with a university student who was home for the summer. I told her to place the Book of Gospels on the altar at the end of the entrance procession. I didn’t pick up on the confused tone of her “On the altar?” and replied, “Yes, on the altar.” So on Sunday, as Father is going to get the Book of Gospels, I notice that the altar is bare, no Book in sight. Just as I’m about to go to the back to get it I see Fr. stoop and pick something up. Lo and behold, it’s the Book of Gospels.
It turns out that that girl had so often been told by her parents to make sure to behave when she was “on the altar” that to her the sanctuary was “the altar” and the altar was “the table” so she put the Book of Gospels on the floor.
Unfortunately the expression ‘being on the altar’ is ubiquitous in these parts and I don’t see it going away.
There’s also a problem with the lack of proper terms for the sacred vessels. I doubt that there is one altar server who knows the difference between the chalice, the ciborium and the paten. Why? Because the people training them don’t know the difference either. I don’t know how often I’ve corrected the coordinator of the liturgy committee, only to hear “Same difference.”
I’ll wait and see. I can only hope. If they stay, well, the purple dinosaur is still lumbering around, too, and I haven’t died of it…yet.Well, they’re not in the Latin Missal, which makes sense since they were never to be used in Latin. I’ve seen an article that said that to use them the priest will have to use the present Sacramentary. I’ve also heard that they are being revised and might come out on a supplementary, the same way they did before. Who knows?