Habitual? Confirmed? Ratfink? I know what you mean…maybe compulsive. Compulsive liar…does that sound right?Ok, I won’t argue with that. Pray for him and his partner, as you would for anyone else living in sin. “Love thy neighbor.” I know that’s hard, I’ve been struggling with that myself for years.
Part of the reason why I asked that you be sure is that I met some homosexual people while in the Army. Of course, being young and dumb, I didn’t see it at first. In fact, I got romatically involved with a homosexual man, who also ended up being one of those people who lie for no reason. I can’t think of the word for it at the moment. He lied about anything and everything, he had no reason for it, he just did t. All the time. And I found out that at his church he was considered a reformed person who no longer lied. Since they didn’t know me, who do you think they believed? I felt sick at not seeing him for what he was from the beginning.
Tell your pastor that it is not enough that an active homosexual “keep a low profile.” He must be removed from a leadership role in the parish if he is unwilling to live in conformity with Catholic teaching.Our priest hired a new organist and choir director a few weeks ago. I discovered that he is a homosexual living an active gay lifestyle. He has been first in line everyweek to receive the Eucharist. I spoke to the Father about it in privately. He called me and told me that he told him to stop receiving and keep a lower profile. I’m seeking wise council.
The pastor sounded angry with me for looking up information about him on the internet. He said, “What did you do that for”. I’m not confident that the Bishop would treat me any better.Tell your pastor that it is not enough that an active homosexual “keep a low profile.” He must be removed from a leadership role in the parish if he is unwilling to live in conformity with Catholic teaching.
If the pastor does not take action, send the information to the Bishop.
“You have created a problem for me that I now have to solve. How could you!”The pastor sounded angry with me for looking up information about him on the internet. He said, “What did you do that for”. I’m not confident that the Bishop would treat me any better.
I responded to quickly, I share your convictions. I will try speaking to the Priet again, but this time in the confessional. My husband wants me to drop it, but I have no peace.The pastor sounded angry with me for looking up information about him on the internet. He said, “What did you do that for”. I’m not confident that the Bishop would treat me any better.
The Chior Director is gay, Correct? He is living an openly gay life style, Correct? You have gone to the parish priest concerning this matter and he has basically done little or nothing, Correct? (Giving in to sexual acts out side of marriage is wrong - giving in to any kind of homosexual behavior is not only wrong but truely sick).I’m so sorry. Thank you so much for responding. I’m in the choir. The Father called me around noon and I had choir practice that evening. I heard the director say that he had been there all day since earlier this morning. He treated me differently. I think the Father told him about our conversation and identified me,
That depends, though. I know of some dioceses that require their Catholic school teachers to be practicing Catholics in good standing (it’s in their contract when they’re hired). Thus, something like this would be grounds for termination per their contract.You stated that this is a hired position, a paid position. This puts the Parish in some interesting legal water when it comes to discrimination in hiring - chances they can simply fire the man for his sexual orientation.
One reason to have these liturgical positions be volunteers.
Thank you for validating what I feel in my soul. I quit the choir. God bless you too. You brought tears to my eyes. Thank you again!The Chior Director is gay, Correct? He is living an openly gay life style, Correct? You have gone to the parish priest concerning this matter and he has basically done little or nothing, Correct? (Giving in to sexual acts out side of marriage is wrong - giving in to any kind of homosexual behavior is not only wrong but truely sick).
First question, Why are you still going to chior practice? By continuing to associate with this individual at your church, even after you know what type of life style he has decided to live, you are basically telling him that you think it’s just fine and dandy. Out in the world we often have to put up with and get along with those who openly sin and offend God, (and I am not just taking about homosexuals), - We should not allow this to carry over into our Church life.
Second question, If your priest has refused to take this matter seriously - (Knowingly giving communion to somebody who is committing a mortal sin and refuses to repent has to be a mortel sin in and of itself). Why have you not already taken this to your Bishop?
I know that as Catholic we are taught to be loving and forgiving, and I do try. But, if we all just continue to turn a blind eye and act like everything is alright - in the name of political correctness, I fear that soon we will go too far, and will not be able to get back to where we need to be.
If someting is wrong, it is wrong. If people are living in a way that is sinful, and they refuse to repent, then we do not need them in our Church. If they truely repent, then welcome them back.
I am sorry for going on and on. I will pray for you and your parish.
May God Bless You and Keep You!
NOT JUST STRONG…CATHOLIC STRONG!!!
I strongly disagree with this assessment. Attending choir practice and worshipping God through song in no way suggests approval for the director’s openly gay lifestyle. The OP is not objecting to the director’s choices on the basis that they make her uncomfortable or that she doesn’t like the director (which could well be the impression she’d give by refusing to attend practice); rather, she objects because there’s a fundamental contradiction between the ministry of liturgical worship and the director’s flaunting of his sexual promiscuity. This discrepancy warrants an intervention on the part of the priest or pastor (which the OP has already arranged) and nothing else. Unless the director is picking music that is offensive or disrespectful to our Lord, there is no reason why his presence should necessitate the OP leaving her choir.First question, Why are you still going to chior practice? By continuing to associate with this individual at your church, even after you know what type of life style he has decided to live, you are basically telling him that you think it’s just fine and dandy. Out in the world we often have to put up with and get along with those who openly sin and offend God, (and I am not just taking about homosexuals), - We should not allow this to carry over into our Church life.
If there was no contract, no morals clause, then to fire someone because they are gay or handicapped or of a certain ethnic background, etc. could land them in a big lawsuit.That depends, though. I know of some dioceses that require their Catholic school teachers to be practicing Catholics in good standing (it’s in their contract when they’re hired). Thus, something like this would be grounds for termination per their contract.