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Hi,
I was in a bookstore yesterday and was interested in possibly getting a Catholic Bible (especially since I’m hoping to start RCIA). I didn’t know what to look for!?
As a Lutheran, we used a variety of versions - NIV, Family, Good News, King James, New King James etc.🤷

First of all ARE there different Catholic versions, and what is considered truest to original language? I don’t want a paraphrase!

Sorry if I sound uneducated on this, but I figured some folks here could help!
Thanks
Eliz
 
Hey FYS,

I suggest a couple of good Catholic translations.

One is the Douay-Rheims Bible, which came out two years before the KJV and is similar in period English (if you like that) and is distinctly Catholic.

The other is The Revised Standard Version-Catholic Edition. This is a revision of the KJV and is noted for having good notes as well as all of the books. (Both of these do…)

The last one that I would get is the New American Bible. Though language wise it is comparable to the NIV, depending upon which edition you get the notes have a reputation for being the pitts. 🤷

I have all three, and use the first two most all of the time. My NAB just sorta sits there…
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
Hi,
I was in a bookstore yesterday and was interested in possibly getting a Catholic Bible (especially since I’m hoping to start RCIA). I didn’t know what to look for!?
As a Lutheran, we used a variety of versions - NIV, Family, Good News, King James, New King James etc.🤷

First of all ARE there different Catholic versions, and what is considered truest to original language? I don’t want a paraphrase!

Sorry if I sound uneducated on this, but I figured some folks here could help!
Thanks
Eliz
I agree with Church Militant.

The Douay-Rheims if you like a more literal translation.

The NAB is more of a dynamic translation. Can be easier to read but you loose a lot of the literal stuff.

I like the Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition.
 
If you’re willing to spend a little money (and by little I mean a lot), try to get a Bible with Haydock’s commentary on ebay. Sometimes they have real beautiful ones from the with clasps and everything.
 
IF you want the most accurate English translation get one from a used book store that has the Confraternity Version in the New Testament and the Douay Rheims in the Old Testament.

It may not be perfect but it will be Catholic!
 
Eliz,

Congrats on starting RCIA! Welcome home!

In regards to Bible translation, I think that would depend on what translation you used primarily as a Lutheran.

The only way I would recommend you buying the Douay-Rheims version is if you primarily used, and is comfortable with, the language found in the King James. But, for example, if you used the NIV for the most part, I think you would have a hard time going back to a much older translation.

My suggestion is that you use either the NAB or NJB. Someone recommended the Catholic Answer Bible, which uses the NAB. I think that would be a great start. The NAB is more literal than the NJB, but both fall somewhat close to the language and translation style of the NIV.

If you were looking for a more literal translation, then go with the Catholic editions of the RSV or NRSV. For the RSV, Ignatius Press has a number of editions available, while if you want the NRSV, HarperCollins has recently published a number of beautifully bound Catholic editions. In any case, you would be in good shape with an NAB, NJB, NRSV, or RSV.

Ignatius: ignatius.com/search.aspx?SID=1&
HarperCollins: harpercollins.com/books/9780061244889/NRSV_HarperCollins_Catholic_Gift_Bible_white/index.aspx
 
I’d like to throw in my 2¢.

I use the New Jerusalem Bible for general reading - I would also recommend the older Jesalem Bible - and the recently revised Ignatius Bible for more detailed study.

I don’t recommend the New American Bible because it was translated with an agenda and its Psalms have been specifically rejected by the Vatican.

Despite the fact that I am old, I was not born in the 16th century, nor do I talk that way, so I don’t recommend the Douay-Rheims.

Gary
 
I’d like to throw in my 2¢.

I use the New Jerusalem Bible for general reading - I would also recommend the older Jesalem Bible - and the recently revised Ignatius Bible for more detailed study.

I don’t recommend the New American Bible because it was translated with an agenda and its Psalms have been specifically rejected by the Vatican.

Despite the fact that I am old, I was not born in the 16th century, nor do I talk that way, so I don’t recommend the Douay-Rheims.

Gary
I am very troubled by this statement as I have a NAB copywrited 1971 with the impimatur. I have used this Bible for many years and enjoy it because it is easy to read, although since I’ve been here on the boards, I have been using studylight to check translations. (I particularly like checking against Youngs Literal Translation)

I do not use the Psalms much but still it disturbs me about them being rejected. Do you know when that occurred?

Peace
James
 
I am very troubled by this statement as I have a NAB copywrited 1971 with the impimatur. I have used this Bible for many years and enjoy it because it is easy to read, although since I’ve been here on the boards, I have been using studylight to check translations. (I particularly like checking against Youngs Literal Translation)

I do not use the Psalms much but still it disturbs me about them being rejected. Do you know when that occurred?

Peace
James
If you have the 1971 version, you’re fine. The NAB was revised in th 80s and it was the revised version whose Psalms were rejected.

Gary
 
OOOPs
I was looking for a Bible a couple of years ago and I found the NAB.Now I read that a book in that Bible was “rejected”.Should I put it on the shelf and buy another or can I just not read the book in question? I have noticed changes in the psalms in my Bible and the psalms on the NAB website.Whats up?
Ger
 
OOOPs
I was looking for a Bible a couple of years ago and I found the NAB.Now I read that a book in that Bible was “rejected”.Should I put it on the shelf and buy another or can I just not read the book in question? I have noticed changes in the psalms in my Bible and the psalms on the NAB website.Whats up?
Ger
The problem with the revised version of the NAB was that it was translated using inclusive language. (The same is true of the New Jerusalem Bible which I use but to a much lesser degree.) The biggest problem came in the Psalms where the use of inclusive language destroyed the Messianic sense that many of the passages have. It is only the revised Psalms that were problematic enough to be prohibited.

Gary
 
One other point I’d like to add about the NAB, if you have one of the standard editions of the revised NAB, ignore the footnotes. (The cross-references are fine.) If you want to buy one, get the New Catholic Answer Bible. The footnotes are much better.

Gary
 
I do not use the Psalms much but still it disturbs me about them being rejected. Do you know when that occurred?
They were rejected by the Vatican for use in the Liturgy, since they blur the Messianic references with their EXCESSIVE gender-inclusive language (and just plain poor literary quality). Check the adoremus.org website (under Translations) for more on this.

However, why the Imprimatur was never withdrawn escapes me. Are the editors and bishops hoping that they’ll someday be a “regime change” in Rome such that this 1991 edition will be supported enthusiastically? :bigyikes:
 
They were rejected by the Vatican for use in the Liturgy, since they blur the Messianic references with their EXCESSIVE gender-inclusive language (and just plain poor literary quality). Check the adoremus.org website (under Translations) for more on this.

However, why the Imprimatur was never withdrawn escapes me. Are the editors and bishops hoping that they’ll someday be a “regime change” in Rome such that this 1991 edition will be supported enthusiastically? :bigyikes:
Thanks.
Fortunately I have a 1971 edition which, I am told, is OK. The Psalms are gender correct in translation. I guess, based on everything I’ve heard, I should try to get a different translation. I hesitate because I’ve has this bible for so long - It’s the right size, and feels good in my hand. I just haven’t seen another one I like as well.

Peace
James
 
Translations-RSV,NJB,NAB- but more importantly make sure they are “study” editions. Notes are invaluable when reading the text:D
 
Hey FYS,

I suggest a couple of good Catholic translations.

One is the Douay-Rheims Bible, which came out two years before the KJV and is similar in period English (if you like that) and is distinctly Catholic.

The other is The Revised Standard Version-Catholic Edition. This is a revision of the KJV and is noted for having good notes as well as all of the books. (Both of these do…)

The last one that I would get is the New American Bible. Though language wise it is comparable to the NIV, depending upon which edition you get the notes have a reputation for being the pitts. 🤷

I have all three, and use the first two most all of the time. My NAB just sorta sits there…
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
I used the NAB a lot, of course,like everybody else. Then, I did notice some comments that I thought were controversial, and I was shopping for another version, and came upon the RSV-CE that is mentioned in previous posts. The 2nd Edition has some pretty biased comments, too. Largely, the comments are very sparse, and more than half seem to treat translation issues.

In these forums, there are a lots of threads criticizing each version of the Bible. In one post someplace, I compared eight different versions of some verse, and there was no overwhemingly superior version of that important verse.

Look. The Catechism of the Catholic Church in paragraphs 51 to 141 talks about Divine Revelation (scripture). Amongst other things, it says that there are four “senses” of scripture - the literal, allegorical, moral, and anagogical. I have yet to find a study bible or a commentary which is based on the 1994 Catechism. THAT is probably what we all want in a study bible.

An ideal study bible would probably have a lot of cross-references and foot-note commentaries, as well as a separate expanded commentary. And these two would be cross-referenced to each other and to the CCC itself, Vatican II, and other modern encyclicals and other writings.

(Remember, the text is inspired, not the chapter numbers, verse numbers, any headings or subdivided headings, the side-notes and footnotes, and other commentary.)

There’s no existing Catholic Bible that meets all these study criteria. Further, the supplementary commentary should probably be in several versions, for children, older students, adults, and for researchers.

Until then, just get one, preferably a modern language version, and READ IT. I’m reading the RSV-CE 2nd Ed. and the language is very modern. It helps to alleviate the tedium of the detail in many books of the Bible.

I’m sure we all have extreme reverence for the sacred scripture, but there’s one other type of Bible I’d like to see, or a modification in every Bible: I’d like to see less-important parts of the text highlighted,say, in a light grey. These portions could be skipped without missing the main ideas in the writing. If anyone wanted to read the entire text, it would still be right there.

Dr. Scott Hahn’s website for the St. Paul Center for Biblical Study has some books that he has recommended and I have found to be very good for understanding the “spiritual” sense of scripture. “Pathways in Scripture” by Fr. Damasus Wenzen is a handy Catholic commentary on the Bible.

Although it is not Catholic, I find Matthew Henry’s Condensed Commentary on the Bible to be very useful. If you’re in a bookstore and find this volume, find a quiet corner and read his insightful commentary on the first couple chapters of Genesis. He has a lot of deep insights on the psychological aspects of Adam and Eve. This commentary slows you right down to consider each word of the Genesis account. There’s a lot of subtlety in the account of our first parents.
 
An ideal study bible would probably have a lot of cross-references and foot-note commentaries, as well as a separate expanded commentary. And these two would be cross-referenced to each other and to the CCC itself, Vatican II, and other modern encyclicals and other writings.
A good alternative is the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible series by Scott Hahn. (You can get them on Amazon.Com.) These are a series of booklets each one covering one or two books of the Bible, which are, essentially, a collection of footnotes which you can use with a Bible which has no footnotes or which has terrible footnotes.

Hahn is still working on the New Testament so none of the OT is available yet as well as several of the NT books.

Gary
 
Thanks for all the information, I really appreciate it - unfortunately I’ve hit a financial crisis (see post in Family) so it’ll be a month or so I would think until I can afford a really good Bible.

But I really do appreciate the thoughtfull commentary. It DOES help.
Elizabeth
 
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