Christ vs. Mohammed

[Ibn_Taymiya]

It’s not a change of subject - it’s a ‘projection’ of Islamic understanding of ‘defence’. You are encouarged by your god to appease all your base elements.

You can give in to anger and fear; retaliate against those who aren’t Moslem, even before they think about you.

I think I have answered all these claims before, and you ignored most of my post, so please don’t keep on repeating what you say when you find that you can’t answer.

Lusts - give in -your wives are cursed if they don’t obey your desires.

First of all, the hadith gives a condition that the man gets angry from this, besides if a woman has a real excuse as being ill for example, then nothing on her, the case is that woman is a protection of the man and supposed to help him keeping his chastity, and that he doesn’t look outside so commiting adultery. Besides, as the woman has a right against man that he should spend on her, give her all her rights, she is also supposed to give him his right.

I thought you weren’t talking about sin. But hey, yes they’re Christian, they must by virtue of that be sinful!

And we see that your blasphemy against God is the greatest sin.

Again you twist things; here you dress up bias as ‘rights’.

I don’t twist anything, you are the one who don’t want to think or be convinced.

It’s not relevant. Every example of the OT you push forward is done so in light of you ignoring the fact we’re Chrisitan. We’re done with the laws of being spiritually children. We’re grown up now.

Your way in that debate is really childish. I have already refuted your child example and you totally ignored me.

You don’t know that you’ll get to heaven. The only assured way of doing this is to become a martyr, and that can involve killing people.

God tells in the Quran:
9. ALLAH has promised those who believe and do good deeds that they shall have forgiveness and a great reward.

So your god rewards murder, and lies. He encourages base emotions such as hate, fear and revenge. You call this ‘natural’ or ‘realistic’.

I’ve already explained these silly questions to you before. You ignored me, it’s yours. But don’t keep on repeating them.

There are subtle differences you’re missing.

If I obey a parent because I love him/her and you do so for fear of being smacked, we’re both obeying our parents, but for different reasons. Me obeying my parent out of love of course would result in me not being smacked, but I’m not doing it because of that.

Wrong, I obey God by three ascpects I gave before, you still ignore them. You obey your god because of fear even if you don’t acknowledge, because you know that if you didn’t, you’ll go to hell.

 

[Ibn_Taymiya]

In Islam lusts are allowed to be given fuller reign

islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=22442&ln=eng

Even a child is not safe

Read the article well, you’ll find that it answers your question:

The fact that it is permissible to marry a young girl does not mean that it is permissible to have intercourse with her; rather that should not be done until she is able for it. For that reason the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) delayed the consummation of his marriage to ‘Aa’ishah. Al-Nawawi said: With regard to the wedding-party of a young married girl at the time of consummating the marriage, if the husband and the guardian of the girl agree upon something that will not cause harm to the young girl, then that may be done. If they disagree, then Ahmad and Abu ‘Ubayd say that one a girl reaches the age of nine then the marriage may be consummated even without her consent, but that does not apply in the case of who is younger. Maalik, al-Shaafa’i and Abu Haneefah said: the marriage may be consummated when the girl is able for intercourse, which varies from one girl to another, so no age limit can be set. This is the correct view. There is nothing in the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah to set an age limit, or to forbid that in the case of a girl who is able for it before the age of nine, or to allow it in the case of a girl who is not able for it and has reached the age of nine. Al-Dawoodi said: ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) was reached physical maturity (at the time when her marriage was consummated).

Do you remember what I gave you before about Jewish tradition and Talmud in Christian Forums, and you totally evaded me?

 

[Rachel_Malloy]

This thread is now closed, thanks to all who participated.

God bless-

Rachel