Christian attitudes?

[Subrosa]

Recently, I have encountered two people who have stated that the Catholic Church is somehow a “dead” religion. (I am paraphrasing). The general direction of our conversations was that the rites and Traditions of the Religion were somehow wrong and outdated, and that those who participate in these rites and Traditions somehow lack salvation. One told me that I needed to be baptized again and became frustrated when I told him of my infant baptism, rejecting a re-baptism.

One of these people is a “born again” christian who attends a Baptist church, and the other is a Baptist minister.

Both were at one time in thier lives staunchly anti-christian, actually preaching that christianity was a lie and stating that they aligned themselves with Satan. One actually said he belonged to the “Army of Satan” and still has tatoos depicting the destruction of Christ on the Cross.

So, where does this attitude come from? Has it ever been a doctrine of the Reformers or the Baptists, or is it a more recent concept? Is it a result of the doctrine of the ana-baptists of the early days of the Reformation?

In no way do I consider these conversations as a slight against the Baptists or “born agains” in general, and I am relieved that these particular people have found a path to Christ. But, it seems to me that thier attitude toward Catholicism is simply a continuance of thier past rejection of Christianity.

Thanks and God bless,
Subrosa

 

[happygal]

Recently, I have encountered two people who have stated that the Catholic Church is somehow a “dead” religion. (I am paraphrasing). The general direction of our conversations was that the rites and Traditions of the Religion were somehow wrong and outdated, and that those who participate in these rites and Traditions somehow lack salvation. One told me that I needed to be baptized again and became frustrated when I told him of my infant baptism, rejecting a re-baptism.

If i am you, i wouldn’t even want to be bother with such comments, so why let those who are drinking milk direct your path, where you serve an almighty God who give you divine wisdom and knowledge. They are always pple around us who does not agree to us, but we do our part to express where we comes back. So if each time a non believers come to me and say Christian is nothing but a bull **** then do i become frustrated about this comments or do i explain where i comes from without even feeling that their statement can hurt me, for i know they are igorant so why fall into a trap and get frustrated and irritated by some pple who comes by just to make you stumble

One of these people is a “born again” christian who attends a Baptist church, and the other is a Baptist minister.

Both were at one time in thier lives staunchly anti-christian, actually preaching that christianity was a lie and stating that they aligned themselves with Satan. One actually said he belonged to the “Army of Satan” and still has tatoos depicting the destruction of Christ on the Cross.

So, where does this attitude come from? Has it ever been a doctrine of the Reformers or the Baptists, or is it a more recent concept? Is it a result of the doctrine of the ana-baptists of the early days of the Reformation?

They are many strange pple around the world, and that is why we are the choosen to help them, we are spiritual being who receive our wisdom and guidance from God where Satan will not able to prevail against our kingdom…Amen Amen!!!
In no way do I consider these conversations as a slight against the Baptists or “born agains” in general, and I am relieved that these particular people have found a path to Christ. But, it seems to me that thier attitude toward Catholicism is simply a continuance of thier past rejection of Christianity.

Thanks and God bless,
Subrosa

 

[Della]

The origins of the “those who believe in liturgical worship are dead” comes from the notion that one must have a “personal relationship” with Jesus in order to be saved, an idea that I believe came out of the Campbellite movement. Most Evangelicals have backed away from making that a requirement of salvation, but there are some who cling to it as a way to negate the faith/beliefs of Catholics and other liturgically/sacramentally oriented Christians.