Christianity and Chick-fil-A

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I think this is more about showing support for traditional marriage rather than defending freedom of speech. It’s a bit of a lame and lazy way for traditional marriage supporters to make a statement. It’s sad that this seems to be the most effective way to galvanize Americans into action, make it about food or entertainment.
 
I think this is more about showing support for traditional marriage rather than defending freedom of speech. It’s a bit of a lame and lazy way for traditional marriage supporters to make a statement. It’s sad that this seems to be the most effective way to galvanize Americans into action, you have to make it about food or entertainment.
 
I think this is more about showing support for traditional marriage rather than defending freedom of speech. It’s a bit of a lame and lazy way for traditional marriage supporters to make a statement. It’s sad that this seems to be the most effective way to galvanize Americans into action, make it about food or entertainment.
Lol, what better way to support a certain company than to give them business? As for your assumption, well… it is just an assumption. 🙂
 
Jesus spoke about helping the poor constantly. Jesus did not mention one thing about homosexuality.
We aren’t against homosexuals! We are against them trying to change the definition of marriage and calling anyone who disagrees with them a bigot. By doing that they have crossed the line and are treading on sacred ground since Jesus (God) defined marriage as Adam and Eve. Saying otherwise is calling Jesus a liar. Another thing is I don’t appreciate being called a bigot just for being a Catholic. And I don’t appreciate all the other lies “gay” activists say about Christians to try to discredit 2,000 years of charity and good works.
 
Honestly, I’m not even understanding what exactly it is she/he is trying to say, or how it ties in to the specific topic of this thread. :confused:
I believe he’s just making the point that “Christians are lazy and rather go out and eat at Chick-fil-a than actually make a difference by feeding the poor”. Which, as I’ve tried very hard to point out, is a flawed premise to begin with, but it makes it easier to justify one’s dislike of the Church and religion in general to use this premise as “proof” somehow of their biased opinions that are baseless.

Notice in these anti-religion, anti-traditional marriage arguments the prevalence of opinion, and ad hominem attack, and lack of fact.

Facts often do not matter when one is so tied up in the emotion of such arguments that they lose sight of the Truth.

-Paul
 
I believe he’s just making the point that “Christians are lazy and rather go out and eat at Chick-fil-a than actually make a difference by feeding the poor”. Which, as I’ve tried very hard to point out, is a flawed premise to begin with, but it makes it easier to justify one’s dislike of the Church and religion in general to use this premise as “proof” somehow of their biased opinions that are baseless.

Notice in these anti-religion, anti-traditional marriage arguments the prevalence of opinion, and ad hominem attack, and lack of fact.

Facts often do not matter when one is so tied up in the emotion of such arguments that they lose sight of the Truth.

-Paul
Well I just don’t understand that argument. Basically he’s making the assumption that just because a large number of Christians decided to have lunch at Chick one day to show support, it must mean they don’t help the poor and that they care more about that than they do about the poor… or something?? :confused:

It just makes no logical sense.

It’s like saying “since so many people went to watch the premier of the new Batman movie at midnight, that must mean that they care more about entertainment than they do about doing good deeds.” …it’s just like, HUH?? :confused:

Apparently you are correct about logic going out the window and losing sight of the truth.
 
Well I just don’t understand that argument. Basically he’s making the assumption that just because a large number of Christians decided to have lunch at Chick one day to show support, it must mean they don’t help the poor and that they care more about that than they do about the poor… or something?? :confused:

It just makes no logical sense.

It’s like saying “since so many people went to watch the premier of the new Batman movie at midnight, that must mean that they care more about entertainment than they do about doing good deeds.” …it’s just like, HUH?? :confused:

Apparently you are correct about logic going out the window and losing sight of the truth.
Yes, I’m afraid that liberal arguments often fail the logic test under scrutiny. There’s simply not much else to say about it. You are correct, the argument does not make sense, but to those that espouse such ideas, they make perfect sense because they are blinded by their hatred and ill will towards anything having to do with Christ.

As I said in one of my first posts, all we can do is carry on doing the good work we do, and attempt to preach the Gospel in thought, word, and deed.

God bless.

-Paul
 
People went to Chick fil A in support of their right to freedom of speech and freedom of religion. (the horror!)
The westboro baptist church expresses their freedom of speech and religion too. People are upset not because they don’t agree with free speech but because they don’t agree with the message.
 
The westboro baptist church expresses their freedom of speech and religion too. People are upset not because they don’t agree with free speech but because they don’t agree with the message.
Soooo, this means what? What exactly is your point? :confused:

Sorry to say, your posts are getting more and more strange.
 
Of course, there are Christians that are good people and there are Christians that are bad people - just like every other group. What in the world are you trying to say and what in the world does this have to do with chick-fil-a?
This is my point. Millions of Christians went to chick fil a the other day…there has never been a day when millions of Christians came together to help the poor. My point is that the picture in question is accurate…and to be honest I don’t even think that says anything bad about Christians. I just think that Christians are more willing to eat a chicken sandwich for a cause than volunteering time or donating money…and you could certainly say the same thing about any other group. People, for the most part, are lazy.
 
Well I just don’t understand that argument. Basically he’s making the assumption that just because a large number of Christians decided to have lunch at Chick one day to show support, it must mean they don’t help the poor and that they care more about that than they do about the poor… or something?? :confused:

It just makes no logical sense.

It’s like saying “since so many people went to watch the premier of the new Batman movie at midnight, that must mean that they care more about entertainment than they do about doing good deeds.” …it’s just like, HUH?? :confused:

Apparently you are correct about logic going out the window and losing sight of the truth.
IF the premise of the picture is wrong I challenge the folks at CAF to start a “Christians help the poor day” and see if it gets as big as eat at chick fil a day. Lets see if you can get mike huckabee and others to support it.
 
Soooo, this means what? What exactly is your point? :confused:

Sorry to say, your posts are getting more and more strange.
The point is that you were saying people were upset because Christians were expressing their rights of free speech and free religion. You were making it seem like people were mad that people were free to say what they wanted. That is wrong. People were upset because of what they said, not that they had the freedom to say it.
 
IF the premise of the picture is wrong I challenge the folks at CAF to start a “Christians help the poor day” and see if it gets as big as eat at chick fil a day. Lets see if you can get mike huckabee and others to support it.
If your point is that Christians are hypocrites sometimes, then you’re right, but it’s not something we didn’t know already. 🤷

We figured this out when Judas gave up Jesus to the Romans.
 
The point is that you were saying people were upset because Christians were expressing their rights of free speech and free religion. You were making it seem like people were mad that people were free to say what they wanted. That is wrong. People were upset because of what they said, not that they had the freedom to say it.
Yes, people are upset because they don’t agree with what is being said. Because Chick has beliefs that are different than their own.

(When did I say that wasn’t the case?)

THEREFORE, it is BECAUSE certain people don’t agree with these beliefs, that they are trying to take away the right to express them.

Are we on the same page now?
 
This is my point. Millions of Christians went to chick fil a the other day…there has never been a day when millions of Christians came together to help the poor. My point is that the picture in question is accurate…and to be honest I don’t even think that says anything bad about Christians. I just think that Christians are more willing to eat a chicken sandwich for a cause than volunteering time or donating money…and you could certainly say the same thing about any other group. People, for the most part, are lazy.
Your argument still makes no sense. So what that millions of Christians decided to have lunch at Chick fil A? What does this have to do with the poor?

Millions of people decided to watch the premier of Batman. What does this have to do with the poor?

Sorry, but I don’t understand your argument at all.
 
To be honest, I’m starting to lose you as well at this point. Regardless, your stubborn insistence on this notion that no Christians would come out to nationwide help the poor day is just flawed and continues to ignore the concepts and facts that I have made several times. Anyway, for starters, it’s not a legitimate comparison to make at all. Christians are called to live out the Gospel everyday in their thoughts, words, and actions, and many millions do so on a daily basis, so there is no need whatsoever to have a nationwide “help the poor” day. We do so in the ways we can every single day, whether that’s giving a few bucks to a homeless man, volunteering at a shelter, whatever the case may be. The Chick-fil-a situation was a grassroots effort to support a specific company for a specific purpose on a specific day to make a point about freedom of speech, and show that those who agreed with Mr. Cathy had his back. Kind of like when a friend may have had a bad day and you do something kind to show that you care. This false comparison between helping the poor and supporting a business is just illogical, for all the reasons I’ve made in my previous posts, and many more.

I will continue to pray for you and your deeper understanding of Christianity, charity, and the Catholic Church.

God bless.

-Paul
 
IF the premise of the picture is wrong I challenge the folks at CAF to start a “Christians help the poor day” and see if it gets as big as eat at chick fil a day. Lets see if you can get mike huckabee and others to support it.
We are all members of the Catholic Church here. All our Churches have multiple, multiple activities and volunteer organizations and days that we go out and do something to contribute to the less fortunate in society. (Not to mention money is given in every single mass)

We don’t need ONE, universal, help the poor day… we have many of them.
 
To be honest, I’m starting to lose you as well at this point. Regardless, your stubborn insistence on this notion that no Christians would come out to nationwide help the poor day is just flawed and continues to ignore the concepts and facts that I have made several times. Anyway, for starters, it’s not a legitimate comparison to make at all. Christians are called to live out the Gospel everyday in their thoughts, words, and actions, and many millions do so on a daily basis, so there is no need whatsoever to have a nationwide “help the poor” day. We do so in the ways we can every single day, whether that’s giving a few bucks to a homeless man, volunteering at a shelter, whatever the case may be. The Chick-fil-a situation was a grassroots effort to support a specific company for a specific purpose on a specific day to make a point about freedom of speech, and show that those who agreed with Mr. Cathy had his back. Kind of like when a friend may have had a bad day and you do something kind to show that you care. This false comparison between helping the poor and supporting a business is just illogical, for all the reasons I’ve made in my previous posts, and many more.

I will continue to pray for you and your deeper understanding of Christianity, charity, and the Catholic Church.

God bless.

-Paul
Exactly.
 
Yes, people are upset because they don’t agree with what is being said. Because Chick has beliefs that are different than their own.

(When did I say that wasn’t the case?)

THEREFORE, it is BECAUSE certain people don’t agree with these beliefs, that they are trying to take away the right to express them.

Are we on the same page now?
Who is trying to take away free speech? I have yet to see anyone on either side of the issue say that free speech should be limited.
 
Who is trying to take away free speech? I have yet to see anyone on either side of the issue say that free speech should be limited.
Did you miss the 3-4 mayors of major US cities who threw out thinly veiled threats towards Chick-fil-a that they were not welcome in their cities. Or the (unrelated to Chick-fil-a) militant atheist groups that sue every time a religious symbol is put up anywhere. The President’s HHS Mandate that refuses to acknowledge the Catholic Church and other believers 1st Amendment rights of freedom of religion.

Chick-fil-a was about a lot more than just Chick-fil-a, it was a statement about freedom of speech, religion, and conscience and the fact that many people have had enough of being labeled backwards bigots and having their thoughts, beliefs, and expressions dismissed and marginalized simply because of their Christianity.

God bless,
Paul
 
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