Christianity on upswing in Japan

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LRThunder:
Isn’t Islam the state religion in those countries? If so, wouldn’t that make them Islamic states?

I’m not talking about just being the majority religion, but the only religion allowed or the religion established by law.
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nope… maybe Pakistan has a state religion but its not the only religion allowed
 
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Eden:
Do you know the birth rate and population of Vatican City?
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yes and the point about Vatican City is that itsa theocratic state and so is Iran…the only 2 theocratic states in the world are divided upon Muslims and Christians…
and if you tried to get back at me saying ‘oh look then the vatican city has no aids blah blah’ i could used the argument that vatican city is very small…
 
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Muslim:
Pakistan is not an Islamic State, Bangladesh is not an Islamic State, Most of Middle East is not Islamic state, Indonesia is not an Islamic state,etc… so i have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

In fact the only Muslim theocratic state in the world is Iran which is not even Islamic at all for the most part. Vatican City is also a theocracy… so you are greatly mistaken again with your stupid, false, ignorant information.
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Is claiming that I am ignorant the only defense you have? How about using statistics and facts instead of trying to silence me by calling me ignorant?

According to the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom, 10 of the 17 countries with the worst records on religious freedom are Islamic or mostly Islamic – Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Egypt, Indonesia, Bangladesh and Nigeria.

(The others are Burma, China, Eritrea, North Korea, Vietnam, Belarus and Cuba.)

www.crosswalk.com/news/1381556.html
 
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Muslim:
yes and the point about Vatican City is that itsa theocratic state and so is Iran…the only 2 theocratic states in the world are divided upon Muslims and Christians…
and if you tried to get back at me saying ‘oh look then the vatican city has no aids blah blah’ i could used the argument that vatican city is very small…
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Right. That too. But can you tell me about Muslim persecution in Vatican City?
 
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Eden:
Is claiming that I am ignorant the only defense you have? How about using statistics and facts instead of trying to silence me by calling me ignorant?

According to the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom, 10 of the 17 countries with the worst records on religious freedom are Islamic or mostly Islamic – Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Egypt, Indonesia, Bangladesh and Nigeria.

(The others are Burma, China, Eritrea, North Korea, Vietnam, Belarus and Cuba.)

www.crosswalk.com/news/1381556.html
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nice source there buddy…but I dont disagree with you like i said that there are Christians who are killed solely for the reason they are Christian but its not widespread persecution in the way that its sponsored by the government or anything.anybody that kills esp in the name of Islam usually gets the death sentence.
 
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Eden:
Right. That too. But can you tell me about Muslim persecution in Vatican City?
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are there any Muslims in vatican city? and no i dont think there would be any persecution because unlike the followers of Catholic Church, the Catholic Church at this day and age is very tolerant towards Muslims.
 
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Muslim:
nice source there buddy…but I dont disagree with you like i said that there are Christians who are killed solely for the reason they are Christian but its not widespread persecution in the way that its sponsored by the government or anything.anybody that kills esp in the name of Islam usually gets the death sentence.
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Shredding Bibles at the airport in Saudi Arabia is government sponsored.
 
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Eden:
By identification. In the West, if you ask in a poll if someone is Christian they can tell you.

Again, you are comparing “the West” to Islamic states. We have separation of church and state here, remember? You are comparing apples to oranges.

By the way, how many times are you going to insinuate that abortion rates, homosexuality and teenage pregnancy are in harmony with Christian teaching?
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give me just ONE saying from me that said those are Christian teachings.
 
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Eden:
Shredding Bibles at the airport in Saudi Arabia is government sponsored.
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give me an unbiased source and thats not persecution although if it is true i think thats disgusting.
 
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Muslim:
give me just ONE saying from me that said those are Christian teachings.
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I said you are* insinuating*.
last I checked, more than 3/4ths of the West professes they are Christians. look at the rate of premarital relations in the West, number of babies born in the West, number of abortions in the West, number of gay people in the West and compare it to Muslim countries
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Eden:
I said you are* insinuating*.
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no the point i made ins aying is that, people do not follow their religion in the West as much ast hey do in the Muslim countries. and since most of the West is Christianity, these so called “Christians” faith is weak.
hey if all the Christian in America practiced true Christianity, it would be a MUCH better country…except maybe Maury would get boring…
 
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Muslim:
no the point i made ins aying is that, people do not follow their religion in the West as much ast hey do in the Muslim countries.
hey if all the Christian in America practiced true Christianity, it would be a MUCH better country…except maybe Maury would get boring…
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O.K. I can agree on that. 👍
 
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Eden:
O.K. I can agree on that. 👍
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alright you see Muslims and Christians have a lot of things in common such as the same goal of modest place with peace. but like i said, there are people on both sides who are ignorant and dont follow their religion properly.

i have said this before and i will say it again…
to me Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.
you might not agree with me but you have the right to your own religion and your own views.
 
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Eden:
Shredding Bibles at the airport in Saudi Arabia is government sponsored.
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hehe a friend of mine , on Friday, while muslims are obliged to close everything and go to prayer, he was caught by mutawi’ and when they asked for his ID, just seeing that it is red ( non-muslim) and not green (muslim), they didnt even touch it and started shouting : you kaffir! you infidel! and took him to police station 😃
well he wasnt please but he was amused when imitating how they shouted in front of us 😃
 
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inJESUS:
hehe a friend of mine , on Friday, while muslims are obliged to close everything and go to prayer, he was caught by mutawi’ and when they asked for his ID, just seeing that it is red ( non-muslim) and not green (muslim), they didnt even touch it and started shouting : you kaffir! you infidel! and took him to police station 😃
well he wasnt please but he was amused when imitating how they shouted in front of us 😃
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you are in SA? so howcome you have not been killed yet? i thought Muslims persecute Christians everywhere…

so what? in America, black people get pulled overall the time by cops for no reason and gets taken to jail for dumb stuff…
its not right but it happens…
 
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Muslim:
you are in SA? so howcome you have not been killed yet? i thought Muslims persecute Christians everywhere…

so what? in America, black people get pulled overall the time by cops for no reason and gets taken to jail for dumb stuff…
its not right but it happens…
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i was just giving a living example from a friend of mine…no Christians are not being killed everywhere by all muslims…that would be ridiculous.
 
Islam will destroy itself, how many muslims leave their countries to find a better life in a christian one? Israel at the moment is embarrasing every muslim nation surrounding it and it makes me laugh. It took 6 years for nazi germany to wipe out 6 million jews, islamic attacks have only increased the israeli population, you would think your powerful allah would step in and help you by now.
 
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