Christians are committing wrong by eating halal meat

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On Christian grounds, I would be curious to know, those that live in countries which are Christian states, (not states which conform to another religion), those who do not think it is wrong, would you object to all meat in your country (a Christian state) being halal meat?
 
chrisfaith100 said:
On Christian grounds, I would be curious to know, those that live in countries which are Christian states, (not states which conform to another religion), those who do not think it is wrong, would you object to all meat in your country (a Christian state) being halal meat?
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If there is variety in type and cut, and the taste is OK, and the quality is OK, and the price is OK…what is left to complain about? We are talking about food for the body…
 
chrisfaith100 said:
On Christian grounds, I would be curious to know, those that live in countries which are Christian states, (not states which conform to another religion), those who do not think it is wrong, would you object to all meat in your country (a Christian state) being halal meat?
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Not at all, as long as it just happened and was not under any force of law.
 
pnewton said:
Not at all, as long as it just happened and was not under any force of law.
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Force of Law on** this matter** would not be an issue, but the circumstances that gave rise to said Law would be! What next - the State commands all children be baptised? I assume that is the point you are making.
 
Rau said:
Force of Law on** this matter** would not be an issue, but the circumstances that gave rise to said Law would be! What next - the State commands all children be baptised? I assume that is the point you are making.
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Yes. I mean, if all meat plants just happened at the same time to make the meat halal for the sake of the Muslim market, it would not phase me.
 
It would bother me if it was required that all meat be halal, but not if it just was because it was easier that way for the meat market. I don’t think it matters if meat is halal. I don’t think this is really about meat anyway. I think it’s more of an issue of not being comfortable with accomadations being made for an immigrant culture. This isn’t much different then the folks who get bent out of shape because the DMV has applications printed in Spanish or that a little girl wears a religious head scarf to gym class.
 
Jesus said, “It is not that which goes into the mouth that defiles a man; it is what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a man.”
 
chrisfaith100 said:
On Christian grounds, I would be curious to know, those that live in countries which are Christian states, (not states which conform to another religion), those who do not think it is wrong, would you object to all meat in your country (a Christian state) being halal meat?
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Oh, gosh yes, I would object!. Even the vegetarians say that the hardest thing about giving up meat is losing out on bacon! No pork? I may as well* be *a vegetarian! Mushrooms can replace beef in my heart, but nothing can take the place of bacon and pork spareribs!

Would I object if all the meat that *could *be halal were prepared in a manner that *was *halal? I don’t suppose so, provided it didn’t keep the Jews from getting meat that was kosher and the price wasn’t driven up for those on limited incomes, that sort of thing. I certainly wouldn’t object to eating halal meat on the grounds that it was satisfactory for a Muslim to buy it. Of course not! I may as well be upset because my sugar cookies were made in a factory that was certified to be peanut free. Peanuts don’t bother me, but I like to know that those who care can buy what they need without undue hassle. That only seems neighborly.
 
Allegra said:
“I don’t think this is really about meat anyway. I think it’s more of an issue of not being comfortable with accomodations being made for an immigrant culture.”

??? Accomodations are being made for others in the UK, as halal meat which is sold in shops is clearly labelled, giving people of other faiths a choice. However, Christians are not being given a choice (are not being accomodated for), as they do not know which is halal meat and which is not.

Also when you say:
“I don’t think this is really about meat anyway. I think it’s more of an issue of not being comfortable with accomodations being made for an immigrant culture.”

Perhaps then, it is best to speak with VivienneJ, who said:

“If this were the case then my priest, here in the Middle East where all the available meat in supermarkets and butchers is halal, would have told us about it.”

Perhaps this subject of food culture in the Middle East may be something of interest to yourself and an issue you can help address.
 
chrisfaith100 said:
Allegra said:
“I don’t think this is really about meat anyway. I think it’s more of an issue of not being comfortable with accomodations being made for an immigrant culture.”

??? Accomodations are being made for others in the UK, as halal meat which is sold in shops is clearly labelled, giving people of other faiths a choice. However, Christians are not being given a choice (are not being accomodated for), as they do not know which is halal meat and which is not.
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It is labelled for the benefit of those who wish to buy it - to give them some confidence it is what they seek. As Christians, we have no particular requirements in respect of the factors which are involved in Halal, and certainly no need to avoid it - so why would we wish it to be labelled accordingly?

Here is info on Halal, though I can’t vouch for accuracy:
thekitchn.com/good-question-what-is-halal-me-60979
 
chrisfaith100 said:
On Christian grounds, I would be curious to know, those that live in countries which are Christian states, (not states which conform to another religion), those who do not think it is wrong, would you object to all meat in your country (a Christian state) being halal meat?
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Only if it meant taking pork out of the picture. Otherwise, meat is meat regardless of the religion of the person preparing it.

-signed-

A Very Carnivorous Man, Scourge of Livestock, and Proud Adversary of All Things Vegan. :cool:
 
Ever since the beginning of time,
man ate as he wished,
and in doing so, defied God.
Why should today be any different?
 
Meat could be consecrated to Satan by the cook at Outback for all I know. Doesn’t matter. I’m eating it and eating it “as rare as legally possible.”
 
I’ve bought Hebrew National hot dogs and eaten them.It doesn’t bother me to eat kosher meat
or other kosher food products that might be offered in the supermarket,and i doubt halal meat would bother me either.
 
chrisfaith100 said:
Allegra said:
“I don’t think this is really about meat anyway. I think it’s more of an issue of not being comfortable with accomodations being made for an immigrant culture.”

??? Accomodations are being made for others in the UK, as halal meat which is sold in shops is clearly labelled, giving people of other faiths a choice. However, Christians are not being given a choice (are not being accomodated for), as they do not know which is halal meat and which is not.

Also when you say:
“I don’t think this is really about meat anyway. I think it’s more of an issue of not being comfortable with accomodations being made for an immigrant culture.”

Perhaps then, it is best to speak with VivienneJ, who said:

“If this were the case then my priest, here in the Middle East where all the available meat in supermarkets and butchers is halal, would have told us about it.”

Perhaps this subject of food culture in the Middle East may be something of interest to yourself and an issue you can help address.
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You’ve lost me. It seems like you are agreeing that you are irritated that an accomadation is being made for muslims, but I’m not really sure. I’m also confused as to what VivienneJ’s comment about the Middle East has to do with it. Are you suggesting that Christians in the Middle East also complain that the supermarket only sells halal meat, therefore it isn’t a cultural issue? If so, I don’t think that’s what she was saying at all. I think she was saying that Middle Eastern Christians don’t care about the halal meat, so much that the priest has never mentioned it.
 
Allegra wrote:

“You’ve lost me.”

Let my words stay hidden to you then, because you are wrongly interpreting what I am saying, and will continue to do so.
 
chrisfaith100 said:
Ever since the beginning of time,
man ate as he wished,
and in doing so, defied God.
Why should today be any different?
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One can defy you and not God, at the two are are not the same. I am obeying God, when he spoke to Peter and told him to eat everything and call nothing God made unclean. You are saying we should defy that instruction. In any case, I am not defying the Church, that divine authority for God on Earth as you have yet to provide one shred of evidence from the Catholic Church to back your rather legalistic and unique beliefs.
 
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