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dava4444
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no it’s not okay. your right.
I’m Scottish, we have had problems with the English for over a thousand years after the Romans left and the Saxons arrived. Even though we won the war, we lost. because of our bitterness, He punished us with English rule, threw the hearts of, although wealthy, greedy Scots handing over our Country. Many of my ancestors fought and died for this country, but still the hate won. and we lost. The three of us fighting has to end. I don’t have a solution Zaki, God in Heaven Help me, perhaps the Gentiles as they are unbias with no history, but really not as they were the ones who invaded Iraq for money. they are motived by money, whatever profits them they will do as the Wisdom and Fear of God is not in them.
you did this :…no! you did that!:…
I don’t think it’s immature to greave , but violence perpetuates violence, take it from a Scot.
at times, God forgive us, we were just as keen to kill a kinsman as an Englishman. it ends in endless circles of violence. George w Bush was like the Pharisee devouring a widows house, when he invaded Iraq. he said ‘peace’ but he meant ‘war’. he is/was little more than a gentile who says he believes, and the cheek that his father started the war.
but extremists (won’t call them Islamic) perpetuate, but Allah HBBHN conquers more with words in men’s hearts than with the sword.
perhaps the Druze, as they are neutral. and have ties to both Jews and Muslims. and they are well known for speaking justly, they value it even more than submission to Allah HBBHN .
help
I’m getting lost here.
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Pieretti
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I’m Italian American, and I agree with the palestinian cause.
If someone came into my house and took it over, i wouldnt be so happy. Neither are the Palestinians, and they Jews woke up an entire group of people by over stepping their boundaries. I know if i was a palestinian I would hate Israel. It’s easy to say. Make up and be friends, But are you the one who had Irgun come in an ethnically “cleanse” your homeland?
I bet every single one of you would hate Israel if you were palestinians.
It’s hard to see for us westerners because we can connect more with Israel, Israel being a modern country.
If someone came into my house and took it over, i wouldnt be so happy. Neither are the Palestinians, and they Jews woke up an entire group of people by over stepping their boundaries. I know if i was a palestinian I would hate Israel. It’s easy to say. Make up and be friends, But are you the one who had Irgun come in an ethnically “cleanse” your homeland?
I bet every single one of you would hate Israel if you were palestinians.
It’s hard to see for us westerners because we can connect more with Israel, Israel being a modern country.
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dava4444
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no offence, define ‘modern’
technologicly advanced? sounds a bit like a gentile.
Feminism? okay so I don’t believe women should be confined to the house, but if you seen the casualness (where I am from) that women have children, with no dad, give the child the grandmother, then talk about have another. I’m sure you would be shocked.
I’m not sexist, I have saw what happens to many single mums, a few weeks ago I saw a mum in the street next to where my grandparents live, she had to two boys (hers) cursing her all the names under the sun, then asking/demanding money for the shop. this is a lack of self control from no social structure promoting good morals, only freedom. not true freedom because it is only human reason, not even human reason but just doing what they felt like because they are not taught that morals themselves are good, only freewill is good.
back on topic: they need peace not more bloodshed, a mediator.
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Benjamin8o8
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this is why Mohammed isnt a prophet of God, but a slave from the devil.
Only Muslims can fight back…right, you lost the spiritual war since you converted to Islam. How shamefull of you to say something like that.
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trdchubi
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But are you forgetting something kid, it was your neighbor’s ADVICE and counsel that suggested that you go out and leave, so that they, your “well able” neighbors push those Blessed “Squatters” out of the house.
The good thing is they failed. Your neighbors are now suggesting that you stay on the backyard until they device a way to put those Clever “Thieves” out for good. Years past after numerous attempts still a failure. And you’re still on your backyard. Who should be blame?
By the way the house was a DUPLEX. The Neighborhood Chairman granted you both the privilege to live in it. But you opted to stay on the backyard so your “helpful” neighbors can use you to say ill things about the Genius “Monkeys” who made the house Modern and Livable.
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cthulhubryan
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Sorry,
But that has to be the worst answer ever.
Muslims have no special rights that are denied to others.
Muslims are no different than other men who follow false gods.
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why_me
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First we need to look at the settlements and see where they exist. These settlements exist throughout the west bank mainly occupying the best land. For each enlargement of a settlement, a palestian loses his land.
Second, these settlements are racist since they are for Jews only. No christians or muslims allowed. Now what is wrong with that? It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. No other state in the world could have such a policy of discrimination and get away with it. But the Isreali government can get away with it. Truly amazing.
Second, these settlements are racist since they are for Jews only. No christians or muslims allowed. Now what is wrong with that? It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. No other state in the world could have such a policy of discrimination and get away with it. But the Isreali government can get away with it. Truly amazing.
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leopolis1
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Islam is evil but rabbinic judaism is evil too. As a Catholic I have absolutely no reason to support any of them. Both muslims and Jews hate the CC. Protestant fanatics believe there has to be independent Israel 'cause otherwise Jesus won’t come again 
That’s why protestants justify and allow killing people in the name of their errant ideology - and that’s not the God’s will.
That’s why protestants justify and allow killing people in the name of their errant ideology - and that’s not the God’s will.
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RedSoxFan
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It seems to me that the thing we are forgetting here among the palestinians are christians. Both Catholic and Orthodox. In some towns in Israel, such as Nazareth and Jerusalem, Baptists and Lutherans also have a presence. (Israel’s Christian population has basically dwindled for the last 100 years). None of them are to blame. Just as the muslims that are alive now are to blame for the wars in Israel’s past. To hold them accountable for the past is inexcusable. Much as it is inexcusable not to hold Israel as responsible for it’s current policies against Palestinians.
True the Palestinians fight end up using terror attacks, but they seem to be on par with what the government of Israel does. Furthermore, the wall around Bethlehem is only going to create more jihadists. Israel should rely more on their intelligence and black ops as they have traditionally done rather than their current tactics which alienate any who come across them.
Finally the creation of 2 separate states within Israel will not work. Israel and Palestine need to become one solid political entity with full rights of citizenship in order to ever hope of ending the violence. I do not expect this problem to be solved in my lifetime or in a hundred years, but it seems to me to be the best chance that the holy land has of peace. Otherwise one side will just force its way over the other eventually and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a genocide.
True the Palestinians fight end up using terror attacks, but they seem to be on par with what the government of Israel does. Furthermore, the wall around Bethlehem is only going to create more jihadists. Israel should rely more on their intelligence and black ops as they have traditionally done rather than their current tactics which alienate any who come across them.
Finally the creation of 2 separate states within Israel will not work. Israel and Palestine need to become one solid political entity with full rights of citizenship in order to ever hope of ending the violence. I do not expect this problem to be solved in my lifetime or in a hundred years, but it seems to me to be the best chance that the holy land has of peace. Otherwise one side will just force its way over the other eventually and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a genocide.
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ZAKI
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we must never forget that whether a muslim dies or a christian dies or a jew dies…a life is a life. a christian dying in palestine is just as sad as a muslim dying in palestine and vice versa. We watch the news and we hear numbers almost every day of palestinians dying yet we do not seem to connect. 5 palestinian children died today and another 7 palestinians were injured in an israeli incursion. We always hear that don’t we? They are numbers and we never know anything about them…
However if an Israeli dies it is a different story: An Israeli died today in a suicide blast…His name was Levi Lieberman and he was a good man. From then we see the funeral ceremonies and what his aspirations were, what his job was and who his relatives were and how he lived his life.
Has anybody noticed that?
It’s as if the 5 or so palestinians that died have no name-no aspirations and we know little about them…they just join the “number” of the dead and soon they fade away from our memory. Every now and then during a large attack (such as the one that killed 1,300 palestinians on december last year) we hear a few stories of the dead palestinians…
but it is just not the same.
The terrorist is always to blame, but the cause of him becoming what he is-is never blamed. He is a suicide bomber who is labelled as a palestinian terrorist…we never hear his story. We never hear that his family was torn down and separated-we never hear that his wife was raped-we never hear that he lost his home-we never hear that he was humiliated. We never hear anything. We just hear that this palestinian “terrorist” blew up a bus or killed somebody and then we listen to the Israeli whose life was lost (whether innocent or guilty…sadly enough he was most probably innocent as well). Then the vicious cycle begins again.
I hope one day, there can be peace all over the world and that all the violence and bloodshed can stop.
…I think we can all say ameen to that
wasalam
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planten
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The present day Jews seem to be much different. They are capable in many fields. They have improved spiritually too. Otherwise they would not regain their holy land.
The Muslims and the chritians, both , have failed miserably spiritually. Otherwise they would not have lost the promised land. That land was the promised land for the children of Abraham. King David had also announced that:
“The True people will inherit the land. They will live in there forever…” Zabur 37:29.
29 the righteous will inherit the land
and dwell in it forever psalms of david ch. 37 verse 29. NIV.
So the present day jews are righteous and they have taken over (inherited) the promised land. If they keep up their faith good spiritually, they will continue to keep control of the land for long time… It is better not to start wars. It is forbidden to start any religious war now. There is not to be any Jihad or Crusade now. Jihad and Crusade is a sin now. Let bygone be bygone. Bury the bad events of the past and it is better to live and let live.
The Muslims and the chritians, both , have failed miserably spiritually. Otherwise they would not have lost the promised land. That land was the promised land for the children of Abraham. King David had also announced that:
“The True people will inherit the land. They will live in there forever…” Zabur 37:29.
29 the righteous will inherit the land
and dwell in it forever psalms of david ch. 37 verse 29. NIV.
So the present day jews are righteous and they have taken over (inherited) the promised land. If they keep up their faith good spiritually, they will continue to keep control of the land for long time… It is better not to start wars. It is forbidden to start any religious war now. There is not to be any Jihad or Crusade now. Jihad and Crusade is a sin now. Let bygone be bygone. Bury the bad events of the past and it is better to live and let live.
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DeusVult09
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Someone please explain n to me how half a million Muslims have been killed in Sudan and hundreds of thousands of women have been systematically raped? This goes on everyday that the Arab militia janjaweed kills and rapes more and more but muslims everywhere are silent ? why is it that they protest over any action undertaken by the Israeli military even if it is jsutified? But half a million Sudanese Muslims have been killed by the janjaweed and they are quiet. Theres soemthign not right here especially since the Arab league decided to support the Sudanese regime even after they were condemned by the international courts. How does that work? Its ok if you kill people as long as aren’t arab? Its ok if arabs kill balcks even if they a re muslims?we must never forget that whether a muslim dies or a christian dies or a jew dies…a life is a life. a christian dying in palestine is just as sad as a muslim dying in palestine and vice versa. We watch the news and we hear numbers almost every day of palestinians dying yet we do not seem to connect. 5 palestinian children died today and another 7 palestinians were injured in an israeli incursion. We always hear that don’t we? They are numbers and we never know anything about them…
However if an Israeli dies it is a different story: An Israeli died today in a suicide blast…His name was Levi Lieberman and he was a good man. From then we see the funeral ceremonies and what his aspirations were, what his job was and who his relatives were and how he lived his life.
Has anybody noticed that?
It’s as if the 5 or so palestinians that died have no name-no aspirations and we know little about them…they just join the “number” of the dead and soon they fade away from our memory. Every now and then during a large attack (such as the one that killed 1,300 palestinians on december last year) we hear a few stories of the dead palestinians…
but it is just not the same.
The terrorist is always to blame, but the cause of him becoming what he is-is never blamed. He is a suicide bomber who is labelled as a palestinian terrorist…we never hear his story. We never hear that his family was torn down and separated-we never hear that his wife was raped-we never hear that he lost his home-we never hear that he was humiliated. We never hear anything. We just hear that this palestinian “terrorist” blew up a bus or killed somebody and then we listen to the Israeli whose life was lost (whether innocent or guilty…sadly enough he was most probably innocent as well). Then the vicious cycle begins again.
I hope one day, there can be peace all over the world and that all the violence and bloodshed can stop.
…I think we can all say ameen to that
wasalam
Why is it almost all of the aid darfur receives comes from the west? whilst Muslims donate a lot to Palestine. Why is it that muslims are filled with so much rage over dead Palestinians that they will riot in the streets and burn israli flags but on this they are silent? It’s a huge double standard and based entirely in the Islamic ideology of regaining the holy land for Islam. It has nothing to do with injustice otherwise muslims would be desperately trying to prevent their muslim bretheren from being massacred. But it appears Muslim governments don’t care about them because Sudan is run by a good Arab regime.
Every time i hear about gaza and how it is being used politically by Muslims it just sickens me because they ignore Sudan completely when the killing in Palestine has never been anywhere near as systematic as in darfur.
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ferdie
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It is about Muslim domination. I think that they don’t really care about the condition in Sudan as long as Muslim is in control. They care (politically) about Palestine since they don’t have** complete **domination.
Some Arab nations are rich, very rich. I wonder how much aid they contribute in easing the suffering in Darfur and other oppressed places? I wonder how they compare with the west in contribution?
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DeusVult09
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yes ferdie i think your right. The only reason they care about “palestine” so much is because they have an Islamic agenda of recapturing all of Israel for Allah. I saw a documentary about it called " the devil rides on horseback" and this Sudanese Muslim guy who survived the atrocities said that they get no help from the Islamic world what so ever, just the west. And its pretty true. Muslims just want Israel to regain it Islam. every time you see pictures of kids dying their it sickens me because they are using this conflict solely for political ends whilst half a million sudanese have died and no Muslims seems to give a damn because they were killed by good Arab muslims. Why does the Islamic world ignore them and even support their government?
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trdchubi
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I really wonder where and how they use their collected Islamic taxes. Where do they put their zakah and khum money? Buy ammunition perhaps?
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ZAKI
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