Christians; what does a person have to believe/profess

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Also TEC typically holds to the first four councils of the Church.
 
IgnatianPhilo said:
Well I suppose identifiying the councils helps. Nicea, Constantinople, Ephesus, Chalcedon, Constantinople 2, Constantinople 3, then Nicea 2.

There are resources dedicated to the sources for these which are numerous and can be easily found.

heres one I found.

ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.toc.html
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Lutheran Christians recognize the first four councils,[6] whereas most High Church Anglicans accept all seven as persuasive but not infallible.[7]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecumenical_council
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Also this:
Many Protestants (especially those belonging to the magisterial traditions, such as Lutherans, or those such as Methodists, that broke away from the Anglican Communion) accept the teachings of the first seven councils but do not ascribe to the councils themselves the same authority as Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox do. The Lutheran World Federation, in ecumenical dialogues with the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople has affirmed all of the first seven councils as ecumenical and authoritative.
princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Ecumenical_council.html
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Kliska said:
I feel the need to clarify, so as to show my intent. I’m asking this question in a sincere manner; I have never, and I do mean never, belonged to an organized church. I have no idea what it takes to actually join one, esp. one that would be more liturgical based. I’ve attended many denominations/churches but never joined. I’ve been baptized, I’ve believed my whole life, I’ve studied and read and even have even taught in churches, but never been a member.

Anyone care to share how that works? Do you meet with the pastor? Do you meet with the priest? When you do is there a set of beliefs you are expected to read through and profess? Fill out a form and mail it in? Do the elders of the church question you? How does it work in your congregation/church? I’m truly ignorant. 🤷
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Evangel Catholic described the creeds and the confessions held by Lutherans. At our church, the actual process for new members would involve contacting the pastor and indicating your interest (you can do so by website, pew-card, or face to face); then you would attend classes for a length of time that is dictated by your knowledge and previous learnings. For a Lutheran coming from another synod it would be a few weekly classes. Someone who was never baptized or confirmed in a Christian church could expect to be in classes for months. The pastor decides when a person is ready, and the elders of the congregation also approve of the candidate (just as they do with young confirmands).
 
Stilldreamn said:
Evangel Catholic described the creeds and the confessions held by Lutherans. At our church, the actual process for new members would involve contacting the pastor and indicating your interest (you can do so by website, pew-card, or face to face); then you would attend classes for a length of time that is dictated by your knowledge and previous learnings. **For a Lutheran coming from another synod it would be a few weekly classes. ** Someone who was never baptized or confirmed in a Christian church could expect to be in classes for months. The pastor decides when a person is ready, and the elders of the congregation also approve of the candidate (just as they do with young confirmands).
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I am curious why a fellow Lutheran [different Synod] would need to go to catechism classes at your parish, even if only for a few weeks?
 
EvangelCatholic said:
I am curious why a fellow Lutheran [different Synod] would need to go to catechism classes at your parish, even if only for a few weeks?
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It depends for us. If a person is coming from a LCMS or other confessional synod, it would only be a matter of declaring to the pastor what you believe, and a quick going over of what separates the synods.

If a person is coming from the liberal ELCA, they would probably have to go through the whole series, since the ELCA and the WELS are not even close to being on the same page.
 
House_Harkonnen said:
It depends for us. If a person is coming from a LCMS or other confessional synod, it would only be a matter of declaring to the pastor what you believe, and a quick going over of what separates the synods.

If a person is coming from the liberal ELCA, they would probably have to go through the whole series, since the ELCA and the WELS are not even close to being on the same page.
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Can you provide one example besides social issues that separates a Lutheran of the ELCA from the WELC?
 
House_Harkonnen said:
Here is a summary of the differences between the three synods from an LCMS perspective.

lcms.org/Document.fdoc?src=lcm&id=548
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To summarize the article from the LCMS, the immediate difference is eucharistic hospitality versus “close communion” followed by female ordination and homosexual orientation. Also mentioned is the LCMS opposition to the Joint Declaration on Justification between Lutherans and Catholics.

Why do these differences mean that a non-Wisconsin Synod Lutheran would need to essentially re-attend catechism classes and learn the 10 Commandments, Our Father, Apostles Creed, Holy Absolution, Holy Baptism and Holy Communion?
 
EvangelCatholic said:
To summarize the article from the LCMS, the immediate difference is eucharistic hospitality versus “close communion” followed by female ordination and homosexual orientation. Also mentioned is the LCMS opposition to the Joint Declaration on Justification between Lutherans and Catholics.

Why do these differences mean that a non-Wisconsin Synod Lutheran would need to essentially re-attend catechism classes and learn the 10 Commandments, Our Father, Apostles Creed, Holy Absolution, Holy Baptism and Holy Communion?
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You wouldn’t re learn it, you would just review it.
 
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