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I know Christmas Day is an holy day of obligation but is the obligation met by going to midnight Mass, which in our parish is at 10:00PM?

I know it sounds silly to ask but I’ve always gone to both so I never really thought about it. I’m cooking Christmas dinner this year and will have time to go on Christmas day but initially I wasn’t planning on it so I could prep for dinner.
 
The same Holy Day obligation rules as always apply: Mass on the day of or the evening prior. (So, yes, this is fine.)
 
I know Christmas Day is an holy day of obligation but is the obligation met by going to midnight Mass, which in our parish is at 10:00PM?

I know it sounds silly to ask but I’ve always gone to both so I never really thought about it. I’m cooking Christmas dinner this year and will have time to go on Christmas day but initially I wasn’t planning on it so I could prep for dinner.
Yes, the vigil covers the day. The vigil can be anytime during the evening. Our children’s Mass for Christmas with the bishop will be at 4 pm on the 24th. This year Christmas is on a Sunday which is always a HDO. So just like the sat bigil covers Sunday so it covers Christmas. The Christmas Masses should be listed in your parish bulliten or website. There might have been an announcement this week after mass as well.
 
And this year Christmas falls on a Sunday… you can always satisfy your Sunday obligation on Saturday evening. This is the same principle.

In Canada we have only two holy days of obligation - Christmas and Mary, Mother of God. This holiday season both fall on a Sunday… it feels too easy some how 😛
 
Yes, you can meet the obligation with any of these Masses:
  • The Vigil Mass on Christmas Eve
  • The Midnight Mass (more correctly known as “The Mass in the Night”, and it doesn’t have to be at midnight)
  • The Mass at Dawn
  • The Mass in the Day.
Note that Christmas is a solemnity that has a proper Vigil Mass on the eve. That means that its readings will differ as is the case in all of the above Masses. But it doesn’t matter, you satisfy the obligation at any one of them.
 
I know Christmas Day is an holy day of obligation but is the obligation met by going to midnight Mass, which in our parish is at 10:00PM?

I know it sounds silly to ask but I’ve always gone to both so I never really thought about it. I’m cooking Christmas dinner this year and will have time to go on Christmas day but initially I wasn’t planning on it so I could prep for dinner.
Yes, the obligation is met.
 
Please, please don’t call it “midnight Mass at 10” that’s logically impossible.

Call it “10 o’clock Mass” or call it “Night Mass at 10” or whatever else, but there’s no such thing as “midnight at 10.”
 
“Midnight Mass with borrowed time zone advance” 🙂
I so much want to say things like “we have 8 o’clock Mass at 10 o’clock” or “the Noon Mass will be at 9 in the morning” so far, I’ve exercised self-restraint.

This past summer, we had Confirmation Mass on Sunday at 4 PM. Consequently, we cancelled the usual 8 AM Sunday Mass. I wanted to say “we will have 8 o’clock Mass at 4 o’clock in the afternoon” but I held back.
 
I so much want to say things like “we have 8 o’clock Mass at 10 o’clock” or “the Noon Mass will be at 9 in the morning” so far, I’ve exercised self-restraint.

This past summer, we had Confirmation Mass on Sunday at 4 PM. Consequently, we cancelled the usual 8 AM Sunday Mass. I wanted to say “we will have 8 o’clock Mass at 4 o’clock in the afternoon” but I held back.
Hum…Mass on super sonic jet…
 
Please, please don’t call it “midnight Mass at 10” that’s logically impossible.

Call it “10 o’clock Mass” or call it “Night Mass at 10” or whatever else, but there’s no such thing as “midnight at 10.”
Sorry Father, I know midnight Mass is not the correct term. Our parish is offering Mass 4 times on Christmas Eve, two are listed as having vigil readings and the other two having midnight readings.
 
Sorry Father, I know midnight Mass is not the correct term. Our parish is offering Mass 4 times on Christmas Eve, two are listed as having vigil readings and the other two having midnight readings.
It’s just a pet peeve of mine. Midnight Mass is at Midnight.

I just wish people (starting with priests, who are the worst offenders because they should know better and should set the example) would stop saying “we have Midnight Mass at ten o’clock.”

I really think that if priests would stop saying it, and stop doing things like announcing in the bulletin “Midnight Mass will be at ten o’clock” the problem would go away.

Don’t mind me. As I said, it’s just a pet peeve of mine, and this time of year, it obviously manifests itself.
 
Please, please don’t call it “midnight Mass at 10” that’s logically impossible.

Call it “10 o’clock Mass” or call it “Night Mass at 10” or whatever else, but there’s no such thing as “midnight at 10.”
To prevent from confusion, folks here call it the “Christmas Eve Mass.” even though that term is liturgically confusing since it can refer to either the Vigil Mass or the Mass during the Night
 
The two churches I go to both have all of their masses on the 24th listed as “Vigil Masses”. Do you think I can assume the 10 pm at one and the 12 am (ok, I know that’s technically the 25th, but you know what I mean and this is confusing enough already) at the other are actually not vigil masses but “Mass during the night”?

Also, is it common/ traditional to go to multiple Christmas masses? Ie. the midnight mass and the mass on Christmas day, like the op was talking about. In the non denominational church I grew up in, we didn’t even have a service on Christmas unless it fell on a Sunday like this year.
 
To prevent from confusion, folks here call it the “Christmas Eve Mass.” even though that term is liturgically confusing since it can refer to either the Vigil Mass or the Mass during the Night
At 10 PM, either Mass text could be used (Vigil or Night), so I suppose it doesn’t matter.
 
The two churches I go to both have all of their masses on the 24th listed as “Vigil Masses”. Do you think I can assume the 10 pm at one and the 12 am (ok, I know that’s technically the 25th, but you know what I mean and this is confusing enough already) at the other are actually not vigil masses but “Mass during the night”?
The very words “vigil Mass” mean “Mass during the night.” Vigil is the Latin word that means “in the night.”

So if the Mass is at 10:00 PM, then the Vigil Mass text is entirely appropriate.

A Vigil Mass can begin anytime in the night. It does not have to be the evening or night hours in the calendar day before the feast day. For example, the recommendation for the Easter Vigil Mass is actually that the Mass be scheduled so that it ends just before sunrise on Easter morning (indeed it must be scheduled to end before sunrise). One year I would like to try that, but I don’t know if the parishioners would like it, so I’d never force it on anyone.

The Tradition of Christmas Mass at Midnight has its own significance and history, going back to the time when mid-night was literally the mid point between sunset and sunrise, instead of an arbitrary 12 o’clock. That’s why we have a special Mass text (propers) for Christmas Midnight Mass.
Also, is it common/ traditional to go to multiple Christmas masses? Ie. the midnight mass and the mass on Christmas day, like the op was talking about. In the non denominational church I grew up in, we didn’t even have a service on Christmas unless it fell on a Sunday like this year.
That depends. Some people do that. Some people have family traditions like that. However, it’s not in any way a universal Catholic practice.
 
The very words “vigil Mass” mean “Mass during the night.” Vigil is the Latin word that means “in the night.”

So if the Mass is at 10:00 PM, then the Vigil Mass text is entirely appropriate.

A Vigil Mass can begin anytime in the night. It does not have to be the evening or night hours in the calendar day before the feast day. For example, the recommendation for the Easter Vigil Mass is actually that the Mass be scheduled so that it ends just before sunrise on Easter morning (indeed it must be scheduled to end before sunrise). One year I would like to try that, but I don’t know if the parishioners would like it, so I’d never force it on anyone.

The Tradition of Christmas Mass at Midnight has its own significance and history, going back to the time when mid-night was literally the mid point between sunset and sunrise, instead of an arbitrary 12 o’clock. That’s why we have a special Mass text (propers) for Christmas Midnight Mass.
Thank you for your response father. I actually knew that’s what vigil meant. But when I went to the USSCB website they listed 5 different propers(?) for Christmas- Vigil Mass, Mass at Night, Mass at Dawn, and Mass during the Day. usccb.org/bible/readings/122512.cfm I’m thinking they probably changed “Midnight” to “Mass at Night” to accommodate all the churches that have the mass at 10 pm or so. Of course, I could be totally off the mark, please correct me if I am. It’s amazing how much complexity and meaning there is in the liturgical calendar!
 
I really think that if priests would stop saying it, and stop doing things like announcing in the bulletin “Midnight Mass will be at ten o’clock” the problem would go away.
This is the first time I’ve heard it mentioned like this ie Midnight Mass at 10 o’clock. Our bulletin for the week announced Midnight Mass with Carol singing from 11pm
 
Thank you for your response father. I actually knew that’s what vigil meant. But when I went to the USSCB website they listed 5 different propers(?) for Christmas- Vigil Mass, Mass at Night, Mass at Dawn, and Mass during the Day. usccb.org/bible/readings/122512.cfm I’m thinking they probably changed “Midnight” to “Mass at Night” to accommodate all the churches that have the mass at 10 pm or so. Of course, I could be totally off the mark, please correct me if I am. It’s amazing how much complexity and meaning there is in the liturgical calendar!
The old English language Sacramentary ICEL translation used the words “Midnight Mass” but that was never what the Latin said. The Latin reads “Mass in the Night” and likewise, my older Roman Missals from the 1940s and 60s read the same way “Mass in the Night” (in nochte)

Vigil Masses have their own (somewhat odd) history. I’m not sure when exactly, but sometime long before the 1917 Code of Canon Law, the Church decided to make a matter of law that Masses had to be in the morning. Yes, all Masses had to be in the morning, which could begin at or anytime after midnight. Over the centuries, what began as true vigil Masses kept getting moved earlier and earlier until we reached the (frankly absurd) point that the vigil Masses were being scheduled for the morning hours. Consequently, what was called a “Vigil Mass” was actually celebrated in the morning of the calendar day before the feast itself. So what was called the Christmas Vigil Mass was not really a vigil Mass at all. It was a Mass celebrated in the morning of December 24. Even the Easter Vigil Mass was celebrated on Holy Saturday* in the morning.* Yes, odd as that sounds to us, the Easter Vigil Mass occurred in the morning of Holy Saturday.

So here’s what happened with Christmas. We had a Christmas nighttime Mass (which was, by definition a vigil Mass), but it wasn’t called a vigil Mass, instead it was called a Mass in the night (in nochte)----even though the actual words “in nochte” and “vigile” mean the same thing in practical terms. We also had a Christmas eve morning Mass, which was not a vigil Mass at all, but was still called by the words vigil Mass. (Confused yet?)

When the reforms were made (in the 1950s and 60s) to restore vigil Masses to their proper time, meaning in the darkness, or at least reasonably close to sunset, we end up with a situation where the Church now has two Christmas Vigil Mass formulas—one called “vigil Mass” and another called “Mass in the night”

That’s why a Mass that begins at (let’s say) 10 o’clock or 11 o’clock on December 24 could actually use either formula of “Vigil Mass” or “Mass in the Night” because either of those two descriptions is completely accurate.

The only choice that would be incorrect would be for a parish to have the Mass in the Night first, followed by the Vigil Mass, since that disrupts the proper order/sequence of the Masses.

How’s that for confusing things?
 
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