Christmas Eve Mass

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Does Christmas Eve Mass at 5 pm or after satisfy the obligation to attend Mass on Christmass just like a Saturday evening Mass for Sunday?
 
expectthebest said:
Does Christmas Eve Mass at 5 pm or after satisfy the obligation to attend Mass on Christmass just like a Saturday evening Mass for Sunday?
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Yes it does! Here’s why: the entire day before Christmas is not Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve is shortening for Christmas Evening.

Now, to explain what that means… in Genesis we are told “evening came, then morning came, one day”… this means that for the biblical purposes, a day starts at SUNDOWN, not midnight. So Christmas evening is actually the evening of Dec 24th. After sundown on December 25th, by biblical tradition, it is no longer Christmas.

This is why any vigil mass occuring the “day before” after a certain time is considered to meet your daily obligation requirements. Christmas Eve mass occurs “on Christmas” by biblical tradition, just as Saturday vigil mass occurs “on Sunday” by biblical tradition, so they satisfy the feast day requirements of worship.
 
promethius said:
Yes it does! Here’s why: the entire day before Christmas is not Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve is shortening for Christmas Evening.

Now, to explain what that means… in Genesis we are told “evening came, then morning came, one day”… this means that for the biblical purposes, a day starts at SUNDOWN, not midnight. So Christmas evening is actually the evening of Dec 24th. After sundown on December 25th, by biblical tradition, it is no longer Christmas.

This is why any vigil mass occuring the “day before” after a certain time is considered to meet your daily obligation requirements. Christmas Eve mass occurs “on Christmas” by biblical tradition, just as Saturday vigil mass occurs “on Sunday” by biblical tradition, so they satisfy the feast day requirements of worship.
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That is not correct. That would be like saying a Mass on any Sunday evening (when its dark) did not fulfill the Sunday obligation. Sundays and other Holy Days of Obligation are fulfilled by Mass on the evening before up to midnight on the day of obligation.
 
thistle said:
That is not correct. That would be like saying a Mass on any Sunday evening (when its dark) did not fulfill the Sunday obligation. Sundays and other Holy Days of Obligation are fulfilled by Mass on the evening before up to midnight on the day of obligation.
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It is correct, however the church has extended the period in which one can go to mass to include up to midnight on Sunday.

Just hop over to Jewish synagogue sometime and ask a Jew about when the days start. You’ll see what I mean.
 
promethius said:
It is correct, however the church has extended the period in which one can go to mass to include up to midnight on Sunday.

Just hop over to Jewish synagogue sometime and ask a Jew about when the days start. You’ll see what I mean.
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We are talking about Catholic Holy Days of Obligation.

Either the obligation is fulfilled by Mass the evening before up to midnight on the day of obligation or not.
Your position that Christmas (and by definition the obligation) ceases at sundown on Dec 25 is WRONG.
 
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We are talking about Catholic Holy Days of Obligation.

Either the obligation is fulfilled by Mass the evening before up to midnight on the day of obligation or not.
Your position that Christmas (and by definition the obligation) ceases at sundown on Dec 25 is WRONG.
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Either quote me in entirety or don’t quote me at all. By early biblical tradition, which is what I was referring to in my entire post, a day, any day including holidays, would have ended at sundown. Do you deny that the Jews or the early bible saw the end of each day as sundown? If not, then stop being scrupilous towards my posts.
 
promethius said:
Either quote me in entirety or don’t quote me at all. By early biblical tradition, which is what I was referring to in my entire post, a day, any day including holidays, would have ended at sundown. Do you deny that the Jews or the early bible saw the end of each day as sundown? If not, then stop being scrupilous towards my posts.
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There was no Christmas in those days so what you are saying is irrelevant.
Look at the thread title. It says “Christmas Eve Mass”. Its not about anything that happened in the OT days.
Christmas does not and never has ended at sundown!!
 
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