Christmas Midnight/Shepherd’s Mass Rarely at Midnight?

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Ha! I asked about the title years ago!
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Mass During the Night or? Liturgy and Sacraments
Do the (English) liturgical books and materials at your parish refer to it as “Mass During the Night” or do they refer to it as “Midnight Mass” or some other name?
I’m guessing that I asked the question because of some controversy going on in another thread.
 
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GordonP:
You wouldn’t see that at midnight.
For others, Midnight Mass is part of the tradition with family and friends. Little kids are carried into Mass in their flannel Christmas PJs and often sleep right through the Mass.

Adults dress up in their Christmas clothes, everyone walks in the dark, beautiful winter midnight, it feels magical and special.

I know parishes who have a breakfast meal after Midnight Mass, I know families who go home and eat, open gifts and then sleep late on Christmas Morning.

What is inconvenient for one person is the most special part of Christmas for others. That is why I thank God we have 4 Masses from which to choose!
In this parish we have the 4:30 p.m. Family Mass, when the church is filled to overflowing, and the 9 p.m. “Midnight” Mass. I’m happy to be going to our daughter’s for Christmas. Mass there is a true Midnight Mass. I have to wonder why old people were hardier when I was a kid and Midnight Mass had the church filled to capacity.

The tradition in my family was always Midnight Mass followed by the réveillon, a big party with family and friends.
 
Why did it used to have special significance?
IIRC, prior to the reforms of Vatican II, every Christmas Mass had to be celebrated on Christmas Day, they could not be celebrated on Christmas Eve. Hence, the EARLIEST the celebration of the First Mass of Christmas (with its unique readings and prayers) could begin was at 12 Midnight (and no earlier).
 
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Why did it used to have special significance?
I do not know if the Latin versions of the Roman Missal ever used a version of the word “midnight” or not. And I do not know if the English language titles were or are standardized across the English speaking world.

Edited to say: The USCCB uses the title: The Nativity of the Lord (Christmas) - Mass During the Night
Both the USCCB and the CCCB 1974 Sacramentaries had it as “Christmas Mass at Midnight”. When the 2011 Roman Missals were promulgated it had changed to “Mass during the Night”.
 
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Both the USCCB and the CCCB 1974 Sacramentaries had it as “Christmas Mass at Midnight”. When the 2011 Roman Missals were promulgated it had changed to “Mass during the Night”.
The key words being “had changed.” Publishers had been referring to “Mass During the Night” long before the 2011 Roman Missal was promulgated. In the older thread I referenced a few posts back, you yourself said that the phrase had been in use in Canada for some time.

I used to have a collection of disposable paper back missals that I saved just for this kind of discussion. (They would have listed the title for the Christmas Masses.) I tossed them when I moved two and a half years ago because I really didn’t have the room. Arg!
 
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Yes, I think we in Canada saw the change when our Lectionary changed.
 
I have to wonder why old people were hardier when I was a kid and Midnight Mass had the church filled to capacity.
As someone else said, it’s not only the increase in street crime and the increased need for people to be driving a significant distance to Mass in many areas as opposed to just walking a couple blocks to the church or taking a bus/ streetcar/ subway etc, but also the fact that parishes have fewer priests, and Father is not going to be able to say a midnight Mass, get 4 hours of sleep, and then function well enough to say 2 more Masses in the morning, especially when one of those might require him to drive a distance to some other parish. In the olden days there would be enough other priests that Father could sleep in after celebrating Midnight Mass.
 
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I have to wonder why old people were hardier when I was a kid and Midnight Mass had the church filled to capacity.
As someone else said, it’s not only the increase in street crime and the increased need for people to be driving a significant distance to Mass in many areas as opposed to just walking a couple blocks to the church or taking a bus/ streetcar/ subway etc, but also the fact that parishes have fewer priests, and Father is not going to be able to say a midnight Mass, get 4 hours of sleep, and then function well enough to say 2 more Masses in the morning, especially when one of those might require him to drive a distance to some other parish. In the olden days there would be enough other priests that Father could sleep in after celebrating Midnight Mass.
That certainly wasn’t the case when I was growing up in a rural area. Father was the sole priest in our parish, as were the priests in neighbouring villages, and they all celebrated Midnight Mass, immediately followed by Mass at Dawn and then got up to celebrate the Christmas Day Mass. Granted, few parishioners had to drive more than 5 miles to reach their church in an area without public transportation.
 
Ours is at 10 pm, simply because our priest is getting older and needs to sleep a healthy amount. Years ago, he would say Midnight Mass, grab a few hours sleep and be back for 8 am Mass. Age has made that too difficult.
Ours is at 8:30 p.m. for similar reasons. Our priest is in his 70s, and has undergone cancer treatment in recent years. He also does not participate in the distribution of communion at Sunday Mass, leaving it to the EMHC’s; I presume out of charity that is due to his health issues.
 
Our priest probably got tired of having about 50 people show up.

He moved it to 10 and he gets a few hundred.
 
We went to a midnight mass one very cold Christmas evening and found that our car was a frozen block at 2 am and would not start. Not a good spot to be in and would not do that again.
Gotta plug that car in or it aint startin. No place to duck into to warm up either.
 
I have to wonder why old people were hardier when I was a kid and Midnight Mass had the church filled to capacity.
Yes, I keep seeing that the lack of “midnight Mass” is being blamed on old people. Well, I’m old and so are most of the people I know, and we don’t have any trouble staying up later if there is a good reason. I would think the earlier “late Mass” time would be more due to younger people with small children who will be getting up at some early time the next day.
 
I guess I’ve been lucky. I’ve never had that happen even when I’m at work for 8 hours and it’s -30°C. Come to think of it, my latest vehicle doesn’t even have a block heater in it. My old one did but still had no place to plug it in at work. But yeah, at 2 a.m. not a pleasant thing.
 
All I can think about is that the (Foxworthy?) joke “What time is Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve? - Here’s your sign.” wouldn’t actually be a thing if midnight mass was actually at midnight!
 
How many places advertise it as “midnight mass.” Ours is simply listed along with the other times.

and we use the readings for the Mass at Night.
 
All I can think about is that the (Foxworthy?) joke “What time is Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve? - Here’s your sign.” wouldn’t actually be a thing if midnight mass was actually at midnight!
Someone calling the rectory to find out “What time is midnight Mas” was still one of the classic stupid questions when I was growing up . . .
 
The parish office will have this question called in eleventy jillion times in the next couplea days.
 
Midnight Mass being moved earlier in the evening is a sign that we are all getting soft. It’s an abomination and needs to be stopped. Now.

Midnight Mass should be celebrated at midnight. Period.

In fact, all Masses should be celebrated at midnight. Jesus did not rise from the dead at 7:00 a.m., or 10:00 a.m., or noon, or later in the day. Mary Magdalene went to the tomb “early in the morning” and found it empty. Morning starts at midnight…therefore, to make sure we celebrate Mass at the same time as the Resurrection, Mass must be at midnight.
 
In fact, all Masses should be celebrated at midnight. Jesus did not rise from the dead at 7:00 a.m., or 10:00 a.m., or noon, or later in the day.
If your point is that we should commemorate the exact hour at which Jesus rose, that would be midnight in Jerusalem and 5 pm on the preceding day where I am at, because Jerusalem is 7 hours ahead of us. And various other times depending on where one is in the world from Jerusalem.
 
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