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the mentioning of war such as Bush’s invasion was an example of how naturally more guns will be sold for the fact of war in the media often and fathers going overseas… their sons and other boys will naturally want toy guns which means more sales…

The point of my post was not about politics like you seem to be focused on in my OP. The Point of my post was that on that plan o gram was 70% guns and nothing else. I found it disturbing that the Christmas boys toys were that high of a percentage of guns, which I have never seen that high. So the point of my post was to see if anyone else have seen or noticed this and would this be because of current war or if it was just location or perhaps even the size of the store. Here in my location Christmas toys are just being put out… in another location more plan o grams may be up and selling, hearing from people at those locations would be interesting. Also if anyone else was a little concerned about the push of toy guns to the point of 70% of the toys being just that. (if the plan o grams were like that in other locations.) As that is excessive.
What percentage of guns do you think plan o grams in the 40s had?

Bush’s invasion. LOL. Just like Obama’s invasion and any other invasion…

By personalizing it as a one man invasion you only underscore your bias.

Some historical data would be helpful.
 
Here.

I found an interesting article. Showing some history of toy guns.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_weapon

Also of note, most of these toys are made and put into production years before release. And manufactures are most up to date on the data of what will sell.

ISIS was not even on the map when this was conceived.

But never let that stop a good conspiracy of the “evil war mongers”

My advice. relax, and sip some coco while watching A Christmas Story.
 
Honestly I see the girl’s toys as FAR FAR more damaging to our society.

As a parent, they are the ones that concern me, not some ray gun that buzz lightyear has.

Monster High, etc. Girl toys are in my opinion far more damaging.
 
What percentage of guns do you think plan o grams in the 40s had?

Bush’s invasion. LOL. Just like Obama’s invasion and any other invasion…

By personalizing it as a one man invasion you only underscore your bias.

Some historical data would be helpful.
:rolleyes: picky picky…
To make things short and not forever long on the forum I said Bush’s invasion… and to mention that invasion would be for the fact I was alive at that time… opposed to WWII

historical data would be helpful… which is why this was posted… to see historical data on toy guns during war periods.
 
Honestly I see the girl’s toys as FAR FAR more damaging to our society.

As a parent, they are the ones that concern me, not some ray gun that buzz lightyear has.

Monster High, etc. Girl toys are in my opinion far more damaging.
never disagreed with girls toys.

buzz lightyear ray guns do not bother me either btw.

👍
 
Honestly I see the girl’s toys as FAR FAR more damaging to our society.

As a parent, they are the ones that concern me, not some ray gun that buzz lightyear has.

Monster High, etc. Girl toys are in my opinion far more damaging.
Reading your comment, it does make me wonder: How would the OP classify a ‘toy gun’? There are a ton of varieties outside the cheap army replicas.





In my opinion, these look a lot more fun. 😛
 
Reading your comment, it does make me wonder: How would the OP classify a ‘toy gun’? There are a ton of varieties outside the cheap army replicas.

http://passionatepennypincher.com/w...3/12/Screen-Shot-2013-12-10-at-8.50.12-PM.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-whPP5FYJKeY/UQALEiXFh3I/AAAAAAACxjY/SnC_iZ3Quio/s1600/fakeprmtoy2.jpg

In my opinion, these look a lot more fun. 😛
Considering the original post mentioned military guns, machine guns, and bombs… would be similar replicas to the actual thing.
 
Considering the original post mentioned military guns, machine guns, and bombs… would be similar replicas to the actual thing.
Well then it really must be just your area. Army stuff’s not exactly a thing around here. A lot of toy stores in this area are focusing on video games, TV shows, and collectibles. 🙂
 
Better that kids play with toy guns than real ones.

OP, honestly, guns have been favorite toys with children, not just boys, for many many decades. I remember when I was a little girl, my brother and I got “secret agent guns” for Christmas. Mine was a “radio” that unfolded into a gun when you pushed a 'secret" button. My brother’s was a camera. Oh, my, we had so much fun with those guns!!

Frankly, I’m thrilled that 70% of the toys are guns! These are the kind of toys that require a crowd, or at least a few other kids, to be fun to play with. It’s no fun playing with a toy gun by yourself! They’re SOCIAL toys that help kids to become involved with other kids and learn social skills.

OP, I’ll bet you a quarter that if studies have been done, they would conclude that children who grow up playing shooting games with toy guns never or seldom go on to commit violent acts with guns, while those children who do not get involved with other children in social activities including various gun games are the ones who end up committing violent crimes either as children/teens or when they are grown up.

So many kids don’t play with a group of kids anymore in free play. There are a lot of organized activities for children, especially sports, and I’m not criticizing that. But I do miss those days when all the neighborhood kids would get together and organize a war, or a secret agent society, or a space invasion, or a cops and criminals scenario.

It was so much fun!!! When I think back on it, it was quite complex play and involved a lot of organizational skills. We would spend hours setting up the scene and assigning roles (robber, murderer, cop, cop, detective, another robber, informer, etc.) and coming up with various rules (“Not allowed to run into your house to escape being killed, because our mothers will get mad at us for messing up the house and make us stop the game”). Then we would spend even more hours ranging around the neighborhood hunting each other down and trying to be the last one standing!

There were complex rules about when someone was actually considered “dead” and no longer in the game. Often, fierce arguments developed as to whether someone had truly been killed by the toy gun, and amazingly, we kids usually managed to sort out the various points and counterpoints and arrive at a mutually-acceptable conclusion about whether someone had been killed and was out of the game and had to sit out and wait for all the other kids to be killed, too.

Being killed was fun, too. We would drag out the death scene for as long as anyone watched us. When all the other kids got bored and walked away, we would cut out the drama and just fall on the ground and croak.

OP, my theory is that these shooting games help children to deal with their inner fears about being killed or losing their loved ones to death.

Anyway, I wouldn’t worry about it if I were you. It’s always been this way. If you actually watch children play, you’ll realize that they can be shooting each other one minute, and then all cuddling kittens the next minute.
 
:rolleyes: picky picky…
To make things short and not forever long on the forum I said Bush’s invasion… and to mention that invasion would be for the fact I was alive at that time… opposed to WWII

historical data would be helpful… which is why this was posted… to see historical data on toy guns during war periods.
I am not familiar with any “Bush invasion” I am familiar with the Gulf war and the War in Iraq and Afghanistan which the US and other countries are/were involved in. And I am familiar with votes held on said conflicts.

I think we should refrain from saying “Obama’s persecution” of ISIS too.:rolleyes:

Let it go. And realize what is going on.

Why is your politics stronger than anything else in your life? It bleeds through your post on toy guns. As if somehow “Blame Bush” is as ingrained in your head as a mantra for life. So much so that in a plan o gram for boy toys you blame Bush… Odd.

Curious if you have any children?
 
To be fair, it’s been my experience that boys generally play with trucks by smashing them into things. To the developing male brain, the destructive potential of a bulldozer is far more apparent than its constructive potential.
Really? That was my experience too… when I was a kid… :cool:
 
I am not familiar with any “Bush invasion” I am familiar with the Gulf war and the War in Iraq and Afghanistan which the US and other countries are/were involved in. And I am familiar with votes held on said conflicts.

I think we should refrain from saying “Obama’s persecution” of ISIS too.:rolleyes:

Let it go. And realize what is going on.

Why is your politics stronger than anything else in your life? It bleeds through your post on toy guns. As if somehow “Blame Bush” is as ingrained in your head as a mantra for life. So much so that in a plan o gram for boy toys you blame Bush… Odd.

Curious if you have any children?
You are sure dead set on putting what you to not like onto other people who do not have that view. Especially going as far as to say “blame bush” as a mantra for life. If anyone lived in such a way they would be in a psyche ward. I think you are the only one here that see politics everywhere you look by how people word things. I explained why I worded it in the way I did. Accept it or not. You are too paranoid by what people think of politics… I can care less about politics.

Hint when someone focuses and turns a conversation into politics when it was originally not about politics… they are too focused on politics. Stay on topic if you wish to continue participating in this forum.

Curious, are you interested in answering personal questions after having a belief or view attached to you that you do not have?
 
It is not a big deal. Boys have been playing with guns since long before Ralphie nearly shot his eye out with his Red Ryder. 😉
 
It is not a big deal. Boys have been playing with guns since long before Ralphie nearly shot his eye out with his Red Ryder. 😉
Oh I know that, I am talking about percentages on plan o grams and what variables in life would effect that. 🙂
 
Oh I know that, I am talking about percentages on plan o grams and what variables in life would effect that. 🙂
Your contention is the percentages are more now?

What is the data for that? What were planograms like 20 years ago at your location. Or last year?

There are some questions we have had that you have not answered. Like, what do you consider these toys to be? Who comes up with the planograms. You said your shop was small. Do you have access to the person who decides this? Or is it a large corporation?
 
Your contention is the percentages are more now?

What is the data for that? What were planograms like 20 years ago at your location. Or last year?

There are some questions we have had that you have not answered. Like, what do you consider these toys to be? Who comes up with the planograms. You said your shop was small. Do you have access to the person who decides this? Or is it a large corporation?
For our plan o grams yes.

didn’t exist.

last year 40%

already answered eariler.

no.

Is a corporation.
 
For our plan o grams yes.

didn’t exist.

last year 40%

already answered eariler.

no.

Is a corporation.
I guess I am struggling to understand your point. Is it that the corporation is keyed into the violent nature of our world and there for in 2014 is upping their gun and violent toy section to capitalize on the current political climate?

If so, hats off to them! That would be the quickest business trend change for a company I have ever heard of.

Why do you think 2014 has more violent toys by almost twice at your store than 2013? I honestly doubt it is the political aspect but rather I think you are more sensitive to it now because of the political climate. I can tell you that in the 70s when I was a kid, and war was not on the horizon, not only were there more guns and violent toys but FAR more. 🤷

I think it has always been the case. I think in Napoleon’s war that kids had toy swords and in Washington’s war kids had muskets. And I am not sure about the other leaders wars but I think you give too much credit to the company here. To answer your original question. I think you are noticing it because of the things you are paying attention to in the middle east.

I am not quite sure of the numbers but I think there are less boots on the ground now than in 2013. 🤷

I know we are being more political than the actual subject (violent boy toys) calls for, but you were the one who introduced politics into the discussion. That the thread does not take the exact path you wished is not really relevant. The mods can direct as they wish.

I also note that most poster have not shared your concerns.
 
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