Well, what is it?I don’t know about papal documents, but I think Thomas has something to say about it.
I don’t remember =pWell, what is it?
Do you at least know from where?I don’t remember =p
Yes, I agree with this. And we must remember that the Bible warns that all nations will fail. In the end all there is, is God. No matter what your ethnicity, or nation, we are called to put God first even if it means giving up our heritage and country. I think people tend to forget that sometimes.Maybe Our Lord said it all when he said "Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and render to God what is God’s.
If that’s the will of God…it seems like a waste that He would create a nation only to have it destroyed. Where does it say that in the Bible exactly? And will the Jewish nation also fail?Yes, I agree with this. And we must remember that the Bible warns that all nations will fail. In the end all there is, is God. No matter what your ethnicity, or nation, we are called to put God first even if it means giving up our heritage and country. I think people tend to forget that sometimes.
I certainly don’t want to see our nation fail, but if it becomes Godless there can be no other future for it, or any nation that rejects God.
Isn’t this referring to taxes?Maybe Our Lord said it all when he said "Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and render to God what is God’s.
Very interesting. Very very interesting. I thought the Catholic Church a bunch of nourish-your-boo boo, spineless, unaudacious, unheroic, unspiritual, uncaring, lack-of-community, back-stabbing, babylonian, lying, manipulative, anti-traditional, pro-homosexual, extremely racist institution. But this certainly raises an eye-brow. Maybe I’m wrong to have doubts about the Church. Maybe.“On the second place, the principles of our being and government are our parents and our country, that have given us birth and nourishment. Consequently man is debtor chiefly to his parents and his country, after God. Wherefore just as it belongs to religion to give worship to God, so does it belong to piety, in the second place, to give worship to one’s parents and one’s country.”
Summa II-II, 101, i, co
newadvent.org/summa/3101.htm
“On the second place, the principles of our being and government are our parents and our country, that have given us birth and nourishment. Consequently man is debtor chiefly to his parents and his country, after God. Wherefore just as it belongs to religion to give worship to God, so does it belong to piety, in the second place, to give worship to one’s parents and one’s country.”
Summa II-II, 101, i, co
newadvent.org/summa/3101.htm
Maybe Our Lord said it all when he said "Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and render to God what is God’s.
That’s weird, I could swear I left a message here yesterday…Yes, I agree with this. And we must remember that the Bible warns that all nations will fail. In the end all there is, is God. No matter what your ethnicity, or nation, we are called to put God first even if it means giving up our heritage and country. I think people tend to forget that sometimes.
I certainly don’t want to see our nation fail, but if it becomes Godless there can be no other future for it, or any nation that rejects God.
Will the Jewish nation fail?Yes, I agree with this. And we must remember that the Bible warns that all nations will fail. In the end all there is, is God. No matter what your ethnicity, or nation, we are called to put God first even if it means giving up our heritage and country. I think people tend to forget that sometimes.
I certainly don’t want to see our nation fail, but if it becomes Godless there can be no other future for it, or any nation that rejects God.
I certainly can’t predict anything about the “nation” of Israel but the Jewish People will always remain God’s Chosen People.Will the Jewish nation fail?
Even if they don’t believe in Him? Then how can people say the Godless are doomed to fail?I certainly can’t predict anything about the “nation” of Israel but the Jewish People will always remain God’s Chosen People.
What makes you think that the the Jewish people don’t believe in God?Even if they don’t believe in Him? Then how can people say the Godless are doomed to fail?
Thank you for that post. What is with people? And who is to say that God can’t work with each individual regardless of their particular Faith, and bring them to salvation? I get tired of some of the judgmental postings here. Again, thank you for reminding people that Jews do believe in God.What makes you think that the the Jewish people don’t believe in God?
They do not believe that Jesus was the son of God, the Messiah, but they they are not ‘Godless’.
But if they do not believe in God Himself, wouldn’t that make them Godless?What makes you think that the the Jewish people don’t believe in God?
They do not believe that Jesus was the son of God, the Messiah, but they they are not ‘Godless’.
I am very confused, and I think you are too.But if they do not believe in God Himself, wouldn’t that make them Godless?
No, I think it makes perfect sense. Are the Jews not a nation? And has this nation not already been guilty of not believing in God? It seems like there’s an sense of extreme denial when it comes to this. Just because someone is a Jew doesn’t mean they’re going to believe in God. And you keep twisting my words around, saying Jesus this and Jesus that, when I haven’t even once made mention of Jesus. Not once.I am very confused, and I think you are too.
The Jews believe in the same God we do, the God of Abraham.
They do not believe that Jesus was the son of God, but they still believe in God.
Jesus was a Jew, so were most of his disciples, so I am not sure why you think that the Jews do not worship God.