Church and State: Do Catholics Still Believe That?

[thewanderer]

I think we’ve forgotten this basic concept. The founding fathers are probably rolling in their graves right now.

Take Gay marriage as an example. Barring gays from having equal rights and protections under the state is so unconstitutional. Thankfully the Supreme Court realized this.

I know this is off-topic, but I just have to ask. Do you believe it is unconstitutional to prevent siblings or a parent and child from marrying and so having equal rights and protections?

 

[Nacho45]

I think we’ve forgotten this basic concept. The founding fathers are probably rolling in their graves right now.

Take Gay marriage as an example. Barring gays from having equal rights and protections under the state is so unconstitutional. Thankfully the Supreme Court realized this.

They would switch us all for sure, but I imagine for very different reasons than what you presented in the manner you presented it.

 

[ffg]

Does anyone know what the history of the “separation of church and state” is? I remember quotes from JFK about the separateness of church and state; my generation of Catholics grew up with the concept…but now a days I am not sure if we still separate church and state?

As an example, because of my understanding of Church and State…the state can create any kind of marriage it wants to call marriage…why would the church have a problem with a state definition which has nothing to do with the sacrament of marriage?

Bruce Ferguson
Trickster

Some have already said it, but talk about poor education today if the term is being represented as even a part of history.

Inclusiveness does not equate to elimination.

The term questioned, is made up for the sake of an agenda. It doesn’t define the true meaning of the freedom’s to be held in the country regarding the subject.

The point of the ‘rule’ in this case is to** allow **public conversation and viewpoints on the subject matter without prejudice or retribution from the Gov’t.

It was written because you had (have) a state sponsored religion in the country from where the folks moved, England.

What do we have today? muzzles.

Why? because it’s easy and people don’t know how to discuss anymore. Everyone thinks that ‘not being offended’ is somehow a freedom.

One is in for a long frustrating life if their focus is on other people ‘not offending’ them.

Since we live in a world of extremes, the proper treatment, keeping the true rule in tact (Freedom OF Religion - not from), would be to let groups that want to promote a different message than what is written in a monument, fund and erect another one.

But no, tear it down and shut-up is the message to the people.

It just goes to show you that man made never lasts forever, even when it’s well planned. What’s missing is future generations did not understand and protect the freedom’s, which allows vultures to pounce. Which is what we have today.