Church Exorcist and Pro Life Priest Warns Against Harry Potter

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Now, now, saying your conscience bothers you about it still doesn’t seem quite right. It sounds more like you’re confusing “conscience” with personal dislike or personal allergy. Some people are allergic to peanut butter for instance, however, that doesn’t mean their immune system is telling them that peanut butter is bad. 😉
Nope, I meant exactly what I said. I cannot (in good conscience) read and endorse the books, given who I am as a Catholic.

I’ve seen the way these books have been debated. You’d think you were arguing over whether or not bread should be sliced. I’ll give you, the other side has been just as extreme. These debates are nothing but “deep.”
 
Nope, I meant exactly what I said. I cannot (in good conscience) read and endorse the books, given who I am as a Catholic.
But who you are as a Catholic doesn’t mean it is the benchmark of being Catholic. Hence, you can’t say it’s your conscience telling you unless you forgot to mention that your conscience is telling you that the books are unsafe for you to read.
 
But who you are as a Catholic doesn’t mean it is the benchmark of being Catholic.
I did not say this.
Hence, you can’t say it’s your conscience telling you unless you forgot to mention that your conscience is telling you that the books are unsafe for you to read.
Yes, this is what I implied. It is a matter of both my conscience and my personal preference in regards to reading/promoting HP.
 
lil_luv_flower,
Have a merry Christmas.

Lost Wanderer,

As you are a writer and familiar with literary analysis and critique, I would like your opinion. As you may recall, I believe Rowlings selected the items that are used for Horcruxes to represent specific things in this world that people become overly attached to. When discussing the novels with my son he asked, “Why does Harry insist Ron destroy the locket? Harry could just as easily do it.” Harry does say he knows it has to be Ron, but there really isn’t anything to support that, which made me wonder if there’s significance in terms of symbolism as to who destroys each Horcrux.
That led to a challenge to my statement that there is nothing about the occult in HP. They pointed out to me that, obviously, the manner of the destruction of the tiara was a warning on the dangers of dabbling in the occult. Their case is that given the tiara represents earthly wisdom, its destroyed by something with characteristics associated with satan - fire in the form of cavorting beasts, released by an ally of evil who has no knowledge of how or ability to control it, turning on and destroying him. Basically the symbol of earthly wisdom destroyed by something beyond earthly wisdom. And the setting is a room containing hidden secrets of people which feeds the fire. Do you think that is what Rowlings intended to convey?
 
Lost Wanderer,

As you are a writer and familiar with literary analysis and critique, I would like your opinion. As you may recall, I believe Rowlings selected the items that are used for Horcruxes to represent specific things in this world that people become overly attached to. When discussing the novels with my son he asked, “Why does Harry insist Ron destroy the locket? Harry could just as easily do it.” Harry does say he knows it has to be Ron, but there really isn’t anything to support that, which made me wonder if there’s significance in terms of symbolism as to who destroys each Horcrux.
That led to a challenge to my statement that there is nothing about the occult in HP. They pointed out to me that, obviously, the manner of the destruction of the tiara was a warning on the dangers of dabbling in the occult. Their case is that given the tiara represents earthly wisdom, its destroyed by something with characteristics associated with satan - fire in the form of cavorting beasts, released by an ally of evil who has no knowledge of how or ability to control it, turning on and destroying him. Basically the symbol of earthly wisdom destroyed by something beyond earthly wisdom. And the setting is a room containing hidden secrets of people which feeds the fire. Do you think that is what Rowlings intended to convey?
It is with great regret that I tell that I have not yet reached that part of the book. My little sister lost our family copy right before I could finish it and there will always be moments where I wish I could borrow one from a library. Unfortunately… I’m just so BUSY!!! AAAUGGH!!! :crying:

I’d love to give you my analysis, I really do but I need to finish it first. Ugh, if only I had the time… T_T

… and if only I’d stop forgetting and procrastinating!!! DX :banghead:
 
Lost Wanderer,
Please accept my apologies for perhaps spoiling the last book. Sorry, I assumed you had completed them. But, yeah there are far more important things than HP.

Merry Christmas to you and yours!
 
Lost Wanderer,
Please accept my apologies for perhaps spoiling the last book. Sorry, I assumed you had completed them. But, yeah there are far more important things than HP.

Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Nah it’s ok. You didn’t really spoil anything (hardly really, since I’ll need more details to even wonder what you were telling me XD).
 
It is with great regret that I tell that I have not yet reached that part of the book. My little sister lost our family copy right before I could finish it and there will always be moments where I wish I could borrow one from a library. Unfortunately… I’m just so BUSY!!! AAAUGGH!!! :crying:

I’d love to give you my analysis, I really do but I need to finish it first. Ugh, if only I had the time… T_T

… and if only I’d stop forgetting and procrastinating!!! DX :banghead:
Get the audio version at the library, the reader is incredible! He’s won Grammys for his work on Harry Potter and holds a world record for the number of different voices created for one book (The Order of the Phoenix). That way you can listen when you are trapped doing other things like driving, riding or cleaning.
 
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"Hm…why are all these good Catholic apologists/writers/priests against promoting Harry Potter?

Well, I said it once, I’ll say it again: It all comes down to your conscience. "

I’ll reverse your question, if these books are so bad, then why are all thes good Catholic apoligists/writers/priests for promoting Harry Potter. Because there are folks on both sides.

I couldn’t possibly agree with that statement. Having read the books and discussed them with my children, there are a myriad of points where Rowlings is reinforcing christian beliefs.
  • Dangers of divination/fortune telling
  • Limbo/purgatory
  • Atheism, it’s danger, the rejection of the concept of an after-life
  • Nobility and virtue of self-sacrifice
  • Danger of damaging your soul through the evil one does in this life
  • That whether you win or lose conflicts in this life, if you have damaged your soul in the process you have lost for eternity.
  • The danger of becoming to attached to the things of this world
I could go on for a while, but then, I’ve read the books and as I said my kids have had some interesting observations from things they’ve observed in the books.
(And yet, they never have talked about wanting to do magic themselves…)
Dear styrgwillidar,

Cordial greetings.

Having now reviewed all the posts (with a heavy heart) subsequent to my last contribution before Christmas, I think your remark that it boils down to conscience, is pivitol in this whole Potter debate.

It is, of course, perfectly true that the Catholic faithful are at liberty to entertain differing viewpoints on the Potter novels, since our Church has chosen to remain silent upon the issue thus far. Nevertheless, that still does not obviate the need annd duty of coming to a decision respecting the Potter books using our prudential judgement. This entails employing good old fashioned sanctified common sense by the application of moral principles to specific cases, whether it be Potter novels, rock music, film or TV programmes. Clearly, this is the manner in which one’s conscience ought to be guided when seeking to arrive at decision as to whether to read a Potter book or not. However, how can this be achieved effectively when the conscience itself is radically defective?

Indeed, I would venture to say that our whole debate centres around the issue of conscience and herein lies a very profound problem, not only with Potter but also with other contemporary cultural expressions of art and literature which are now, sadly, the bane of the Church. That so many Catholics have been duped and then go on to vehemently defend such manifestly worthless and unwholesome books such as Harry Potter, is surely indicative of the present widespread moral confusion. Myriads of Christians have apparently lost their moral compass by sucumbing to the godless spirit of the age and consequently have radically defective consciences when it comes to the whole matter of spiritual discernment. Moreover, a want of sanctity and separation from the godless world can result in the acceptance and then passionate defence of that which is unacceptable and detestable to God.

Therefore a man’s conscience is not always a true conscience. Alas, a man can warp his conscience by worldliness and the adoption of materialistic values. When this occurs there will necessarily be some if not a total loss of discernment and he will be unable to form a correct judgement respecting the arts or literature and what ought to be repudiated as culturally unwholesome. So much of this debate, like the rock music debate, is about the broader issue of conscience and sanctity and separation from the world. This is surely the elephant in the room and the taboo topic in contemporary Christianity generally.

A correctly formed conscience would be able to perceive the actual anti-Christian and even diabolical metaphysics behind the Potter series of books. Moreover, “Christian parents need to know that not all reading is good reading for the precious souls of the children God has entrusted to us. Authentic Christian faith, family and culture should be what dwells in the hearts and minds of the next generation, not thousand of pages of witchcraft, psuedo-heroes replete with moral compromise…” (Dr. Mark Miravalle, Professor of Theology, Franciscan University Steubenville).

Dearly beloved, God desires so much better for our youth than the deplorable Potter books, and so should we also. My prayer is that the global army of Rowling supporters will be illuminated as to the grave and insidious dangers of present neo-pagan youth fantasy, such as Harry Potter, and come to see that they are anything but imaginative and harmless fun.

Warmest good wishes and a belated Happy New Year to all contributors to this thread,

Portrait

Pax
 
It is, of course, perfectly true that the Catholic faithful are at liberty to entertain differing viewpoints on the Potter novels, since our Church has chosen to remain silent upon the issue thus far.
I had to chime in here because you are being uncharitable. Since the Church won’t rule on the Harry Potter novels, then we are free to decide by ourselves. Many good, devout Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants have concluded that the books are good to read. I don’t know the state of anyone’s souls but I do know that in my own case, I have weighted everything carefully and have come to the conclusion that they are not evil at all.
Nevertheless, that still does not obviate the need annd duty of coming to a decision respecting the Potter books using our prudential judgement. Clearly, this is the manner in which one’s conscience ought to be guided when seeking to arrive at decision as to whether to read a Potter book or not. However, how can this be achieved effectively when the conscience itself is radically defective?
This is where you are completely uncharitable. Who are you to say that a person’s conscience is defective if they like something that you don’t???
That so many Catholics have been duped and then go on to vehemently defend such manifestly worthless and unwholesome books such as Harry Potter, is surely indicative of the present widespread moral confusion.
Now this is bordering on malicious since several of us Catholics who have read the books have pointed out that they are not worthless and unwholesome. We have actually read the books and decided for ourselves instead of taking the word of a few people who have probably not read the books at all. I am not duped and neither are the others who believe they are good. Apparently to you, if it is something that you don’t like (fantasy, rock music, etc) then it must be evil and anyone who believes otherwise is just a poor duped person. I find that to be VERY arrogant.
Myriads of Christians have apparently lost their moral compass by sucumbing to the godless spirit of the age and consequently have radically defective consciences when it comes to the whole matter of spiritual discernment. Moreover, a want of sanctity and separation from the godless world can result in the acceptance and then passionate defence of that which is unacceptable and detestable to God.
Sure, there are many who don’t know their faith, etc, etc. But this has nothing to do with Harry Potter. In fact, I would venture to say that Harry Potter is an antidote to a lot of this godless and immoral stuff that passes for entertainment in this time.
 
Therefore a man’s conscience is not always a true conscience. Alas, a man can warp his conscience by worldliness and the adoption of materialistic values.
Ok, according to your view, anyone who thinks like you isn’t tainted but those of us who enjoy fantasy, scifi, rock music, etc must have a warped conscience. This is very arrogant.
When this occurs there will necessarily be some if not a total loss of discernment and he will be unable to form a correct judgement respecting the arts or literature and what ought to be repudiated as culturally unwholesome. So much of this debate, like the rock music debate, is about the broader issue of conscience and sanctity and separation from the world. This is surely the elephant in the room and the taboo topic in contemporary Christianity generally.
Again, you claim that we who are devout and have discerned it properly couldn’t POSSIBLY have a different opinion about them than you, right? Isn’t this the true elephant in the room? Since you believe them to be evil, then it must be so and if anyone believes that they aren’t then they are just worldly, duped people with screwed up consciences. This is exactly how you are coming across and I find it to be VERY arrogant and prideful. I seem to recall that those are worse sins.
A correctly formed conscience would be able to perceive the actual anti-Christian and even diabolical metaphysics behind the Potter series of books.
Hmm, again, you like the other Harry Potter haters can’t give ACTUAL concrete evidence for this. Where is the evidence??? Please, give me actually specifics not silly generalized statements like this that are flat out lies.
Moreover, “Christian parents need to know that not all reading is good reading for the precious souls of the children God has entrusted to us. Authentic Christian faith, family and culture should be what dwells in the hearts and minds of the next generation, not thousand of pages of witchcraft, psuedo-heroes replete with moral compromise…” (Dr. Mark Miravalle, Professor of Theology, Franciscan University Steubenville).
Oh wow, what a way to sell Christian parents short. I’m pretty sure that they know that already.
Dearly beloved, God desires so much better for our youth than the deplorable Potter books, and so should we also. My prayer is that the global army of Rowling supporters will be illuminated as to the grave and insidious dangers of present neo-pagan youth fantasy, such as Harry Potter, and come to see that they are anything but imaginative and harmless fun.
Again, no specifics. You also fail to recall that Rowling is a Christian herself. She isn’t a neo-pagan and nor is she promoting that at all. Read the actual books and come to your own conclusion or at least give actual CONCRETE examples because all these Harry Potter hating “arguments” never actually give concrete examples and what examples they give are usually taken from the bad guys in the books ie. the people you don’t want the emulate and are clearly shown in the books as the path NOT to follow. I believe it to be malicious to use the words and ideas of the bad guys as the overall theme of the books themselves. This is flat out wrong.
 
Hmm, again, you like the other Harry Potter haters can’t give ACTUAL concrete evidence for this. Where is the evidence??? Please, give me actually specifics not silly generalized statements like this that are flat out lies.
I agree. What you will find though is that people with this view have nothing profound to say to support their false claims because they don’t bother READING, or THINKING. It’s just a matter of “oh this person says it’s bad… I can’t think for myself so I’ll just go along with it.”

Some people spend so much time studying their faith that they never learn how to use logic and deductive reasoning. Naturally the counterpoint to that could be that maybe I haven’t spent enough time studying it… that’s all I’ve been doing lately… and I have yet to come across anything that says “Harry Potter books are bad!” The only thing that I’ve seen to support that claim is the rantings of fanatics who haven’t even read the books and make foolish assumptions based on hearsay.

What’s interesting is that these same people might find themselves on the other side of this argument when an Atheist might make claims like God has allowed people to suffer therefore he doesn’t really exist or does not love all. The general response to that is that basically they’ve not read the bible or have at least not interpretted it properly.

Way to support the thought process of the people who most disagree with our faith 👍
 
To Rapunzel: Ditto!

Also, I would like to point out that, as has been noted and accepted by everyone, the Church has not spoken out on the matter. We have opinions from various clergy, religious, and lay Catholics on both sides of the issue, but none of these constitute authority. Therefore, I do find it offensive when our reasoning for the enjoyment (and subsequent defense) of the Harry Potter series is deemed due to ‘bad/warped consciences’ or that we must have gotten caught up with the Zeitgeist. When the Church herself decides that the matter is up to the individual, who are we to judge one another for acts that are not sinful in nature?

The truth is that we (supporters) are not trying to force anyone to read the books. Whether you read them or don’t is of no consequence to us. What bothers us are the personal attacks directed at us as if there is something wrong with us for enjoying these things. We aren’t saying it is appropriate for all readers, especially children not of an appropriate age (varies by book) and those either curious/previously involved in the occult or cannot discern reality. But for those of us in the right mind set and of an appropriate age see no reason why, when freely allowed to do so from the Church, we are coming under duress for our choice in literature.

Again, if you want to refute the content of the books, please provide specific examples. Anything else, just please don’t rehash non-authoritative speakers because personal opinion won’t sway either side.
 
I had to chime in here because you are being uncharitable. Since the Church won’t rule on the Harry Potter novels, then we are free to decide by ourselves. Many good, devout Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants have concluded that the books are good to read. I don’t know the state of anyone’s souls but I do know that in my own case, I have weighted everything carefully and have come to the conclusion that they are not evil at all.

This is where you are completely uncharitable. Who are you to say that a person’s conscience is defective if they like something that you don’t???

Now this is bordering on malicious since several of us Catholics who have read the books have pointed out that they are not worthless and unwholesome. We have actually read the books and decided for ourselves instead of taking the word of a few people who have probably not read the books at all. I am not duped and neither are the others who believe they are good. Apparently to you, if it is something that you don’t like (fantasy, rock music, etc) then it must be evil and anyone who believes otherwise is just a poor duped person. I find that to be VERY arrogant.

Sure, there are many who don’t know their faith, etc, etc. But this has nothing to do with Harry Potter. In fact, I would venture to say that Harry Potter is an antidote to a lot of this godless and immoral stuff that passes for entertainment in this time.
Dear rapunzel,

Cordial greetings and thankyou for your responses above.

First, may I just say that I am truly sorry that you found my post uncharitable and my tone arrogant. However, having re-read my comments several times and given the matter some careful and prayerful thought this afternoon, I cannot really see how I was being censorious or unkind in any way and I think you might just be overreacting a little. Be that as it may, I apologise for any offence occasioned by my remarks.

Having acknowledged that our Church had not made any official pronouncement on the matter, I then stated that Catholics were called to use their prudential judgement in this matter, as in other contentious issues. However, as I stated, the problem arises when one has a radically defective conscience because, if that is the case, then one is surely likely to err in their judgement. Now it is my contention that many Catholics, especially the young (though not exclusively) have a warped conscience with its consequent loss of discernment because they are imbued far too much with the spirit of the age and have adopted a hand in hand with world type of Christian discipleship. This, alas, has plainly blunted their moral sense. Clearly, there is nothing uncharitable or malicious about any of this; it is a perfectly logical deduction, but a very sad and disturbing fact nonetheless. It is incontrovertible that some men do indeed have warped consciences and have lost their moral compass, which in turn affects their ability to make a sound and correct judgement as regards culturally unhealthy arts or literature. Now how can an an individual apply moral principles to specific cases when he has a defective conscience?

It is not a question of likes or dislikes but whether Catholics should be reading themselves, or allowing their children to read, a series of culturally unwholesome books where an ambivalent morality is clearly at work and which contain references to real-world occult symbolism, lore subjects and practices as Rowling herself has admitted.

As for the multitudes of Christians that have been duped over the Potter phenomenom, this really should come as no surprise when you take into account the tragic loss of spiritual discernment in today’s Laodicean Church. In any event the voice of history attests that there is such a thing as mass public deception - ask the Germans, they know all about that.

There may be many Catholics who’s orthodoxy is impeccable, but it does not necessarily follow from this that they have heeded the summons to sanctity and separation from the world and are striving to live out the arduous demands of their religion. The one ought to follow on from the other but sadly it often does not. There are many Evangelical Christians who are very othodox and who have a zeal for the so called “doctrines of grace” but their lives, like that of many Catholics, are very wrapped up with the pursuit of ease, wealth and pleasure and they plainly do not keep themselves “unstained from the world” (St. James 1: 18). This is a very sad indictment upon the Church and explains why we are not offering the world an alternative Christian counter-culture.

Regarding the cogent evidence against the Potter novels, I and others have adduded this many times on these boards, including the present thread. Men may not agree with that evidence but they should not state that no evidence is ever provided, only “generalised statements”. That is rather disengenuous and unfair. If you want specific refutation of the pro-Potter argments then I have given these many threads over the couple of years. Moreover, whilst it is true that many have given superficially plausible rebuttals to my and others arguments, that is hardly the same as a compelling refutation demonstrating the falsity and error of my whole position.

God bless you.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
As for the multitudes of Christians that have been duped over the Potter phenomenom, this really should come as no surprise when you take into account the tragic loss of spiritual discernment in today’s Laodicean Church. In any event the voice of history attests that there is such a thing as mass public deception - ask the Germans, they know all about that.
In making this statement you insult every Potter fan’s intelligence while questioning their faith. What makes you think you have the authority to do either?
  1. I’ve not been duped… I"m perfectly capable of separating reality (the bible) from fantasy (harry potter).
  2. You, like many who’ve not even read the books seem to think the books are taking people away from Christ. It was approximately two weeks after I finished the series that I decided to convert. So you have no right or place to question my or anyone’s faith because they read a series of FICTIONAL books.
  3. If someone does get pulled away from Christ because of a fictional story, then they are obviously too weak willed and too weak minded as it is. The Harry Potter books are not to blame for that. That’s a simple lack of faith, intelligence and education.
 
** In any event the voice of history attests that there is such a thing as mass public deception - ask the Germans, they know all about that. **

Portrait
Pax
Oddly enough, Rowling stated she based her bad guys on the behavior of the Nazis as seen over the years leading up to and including the war.
 
Regarding the cogent evidence against the Potter novels, I and others have adduded this many times on these boards, including the present thread. Men may not agree with that evidence but they should not state that no evidence is ever provided, only “generalised statements”. That is rather disengenuous and unfair. If you want specific refutation of the pro-Potter argments then I have given these many threads over the couple of years. Moreover, whilst it is true that many have given superficially plausible rebuttals to my and others arguments, that is hardly the same as a compelling refutation demonstrating the falsity and error of my whole position.
First, it is offensive to claim that our consciences are defective because we do not share the same viewpoint. This is a major backbone of your argument, and yet the only proof you have of our consciences being ‘defective’ are that your opinion must be correct concerning a matter that the Church does not rule one way or the other on. You give reasons why consciences in general may be ‘defective’ or ‘warped’ but cannot provide evidence that ours, or any other Potter readers’, is in such a state. You claim this is a ‘logical deduction’ but actually use it as a premise.

Secondly, you argue that the books are ‘culturally unwholesome’ but cannot provide any evidence from the texts as such. That is what we mean when we ask for specifics. You also made comparisons to the Nazis (really?), but don’t see the parallels between the Nazis and the evil side in the Harry Potter series, and it is the good guys who are fighting, in a moral fashion, these injustices.

Third, you get on about these occult symbols and ‘lore practices’ in Harry Potter, but neither you nor anyone else can explain why those symbols are perfectly acceptable in the works of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. You can read the thread for various examples of these instances in their works.

Fourth, again with this idea of us being ‘duped’ when you have not laid out any reason why you should consider us as such. And again, the fact that you compare Harry Potter to the Nazis and those who support Harry Potter as the Germans who accept these evils. My question is ‘Where is the evil in the Harry Potter series? Where is the threat against my moral beliefs from reading any fantasy/sci-fi fiction?’. Yes, there are bad guys who are clearly portrayed as being evil, but there are not evil, malicious, or sinful themes in the book. The themes are about virtue, justice, righteousness, and truth - things all Catholics, Christians, those of other religions, and non-believers alike can agree we need more of. But just because others believe in these virtues do not make them any less Catholic, and that is a very important point.

Fifth, again implying that our beliefs do not follow out to our actions, and that we are poor examples of Catholics, not to mention the suggestion (albeit implicit) that we are one of the reasons for the secularization of the world. All this because we read fictional books.

Lastly, when we ask for specific evidence, we mean real life facts about the evils caused directly by the series, or citations from the text citing anti-Catholic ideas. And if there is evidence on ‘other threads’ from some time in the past, please link to them or at least cite the name so we can read this, because this thread has not contained that. And while you claim our ‘superficial’ and ‘plausible’ arguments don’t serve as proof, not one of those against the series has been able to ‘scratch the surface’ against our arguments outside of their own opinions or the opinions of others. Following this logic, you could never convince an atheist to believe because they would say your arguments can’t be proven with hard evidence, even though you have provided a valid, logical response to every objection they have.

PS (edit): I only included the final paragraph, but my arguments, for the most part, follow your paragraphs established above from the post I am quoting.
 
Dear (name removed by moderator),

Cordial greetings and hope all is well.

What I would contend is that the moral conscience can be so deadened by worldliness that a man will lack the capacity to make correct moral judgements respecting the arts and literature. Inevitably there will be a loss of spiritual discernment with the result that the wrong moral choices will be made and a relativistic mindset will soon establish itself. Prudential judgement must be informed by the application of objective moral principles, not personal opinion or preference, as is happening increasingly in Contemporary Christianity.

The fact that the pro-Potterites refuse to accept the unassailable moral arguments against Rowling’s inferior books, clearly does evince that moral consciences have become radically defective. Former generations of devout Catholics would not have touched the Potter novels with a barge pole as they would have seen instantly that there is no reference to a core system of moral absolutes with which to weigh actions; the fantasy world still needs to reinforce the laws of the moral universe. Moreover, they would also have seen that the series exalts relativism because it is devoid of any objective standard of right and wrong. The fact also that Rowling announced that one of the key characters in the series was a homosexual, would have flashed up the warning cones because it tells us a great deal about the author. She is evidently a very Liberal Christian who wishes to be seen as ‘inclusive’ and tolerant of that sexually aberrant life style, which she probably considers a valid alternative, otherwise why make such an unsavoury comment about a character in a children’s series of novels?

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
Dear (name removed by moderator),

Cordial greetings and hope all is well.

What I would contend is that the moral conscience can be so deadened by worldliness that a man will lack the capacity to make correct moral judgements respecting the arts and literature.
One could also contend that you are so attuned spiritually that you have ignored the development of rational thought and being able to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

As far as Dumbledore being gay… first it’s quite likely that this was a publicity stunt. Second, being homosexual in and of itself is not a sin… performing homosexual acts is. Even if it were true never at any point in time in the books is there ANY indication that he is gay… if you’d bothered to read them instead of making loose judgments with no real evidence you’d know that and FYI reading what someone else thinks of the books (who also probably hasn’t read them) is not evidence and it shows that you lack the ability to think for yourself which is sad and it shows that you ignore one of God’s greatest gifts to us, free will. Ultimately, you seem perfectly happy to ignore logic and contradict it with ignorant theory and no real knowledge of what you speak. I suppose ignorance truly is bliss.

Also, I am curious… since you refuse to read them to make a proper judgment I wonder how it is that you seem perfectly ok with passing judgment on “pro-Potterites”. The Bible teaches us very explicitly not to judge… yet here you are… judging those of us who enjoy a book using The Book that you also ignore parts of when convenient for your point.
 
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