Church Law on Foreplay

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Many Priests in the Traditional Catholic church say that Oral stimulation is disordered even when used to complete the marital act. I am talking about oral stimulation and NOT oral sex. I know that oral sex is evil as it replaces natural sex and possibility of children. There are many liberal views out there these days and I would like to hear from anyone who is familiar with any priests or churches that teach this. I have met at least 6 wonderful priest who interpret St Augustine, St Thomas Aquinas and the catechism and canon law as prohibiting oral and even manual foreplay. What has your priest taught? Any traditional catholic priest especially since it may be only within the traditional churches that this taught.
 
Oral sex is fine so long as its connecyed to the marital act.

Enjoy your wife, and forget about the haters, they don’t represent the Church.

The Church is actually very liberal about sex between married couples. Its a beautiful thing.
 
It seems there was a strong gnostic anti-sex strand prevalent in Catholicism for centuries. Many traditionalists mistake this for orthodoxy and tradition. There was a general tendency to view sex as something dirty… an unfortunate necessity for procreation. St John Paul II sought to address this problem with his theology of the body.
Some of these so called “traditional” priests and other teachers apparently want women to experience pain and discomfort as they lay back, close their eyes and think of England while their husband pleasures himself as quickly as possible. It’s a disgusting, deeply distubring, disordered view of marital relations. To rule out any sort of foreplay just smacks of misogyny.
 
St Augustine, St Thomas Aquinas and the catechism and canon law as prohibiting oral and even manual foreplay.
Neither St Augustine nor St Thomas, holy as they are, have authority in the church in such a manner.

If you can produce the Catechism or Canon Law citation on foreplay I will be most interested to see it.
 
Here’s the start of the Catechism’s section on sexuality (as it relates to the sixth commandment).

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P83.HTM

I looked through it, specifically 2351-2356, which discusses offenses against chastity (which I believe is what the OP is concerned about), and no mention is made of oral sex or foreplay; only that all sexual acts must take place within the conjugal union of a married couple. I don’t think the CCC has a section specifically regarding foreplay, so we have to use these sections to make determinations about such questions.

My personal understanding is that so long as you are not pursuing those acts lustfully (as defined in 2351), and you still complete the sexual act in a licit manner, then you’re okay.
 
It’s funny people think the Church is strict on sexual matters. It’s actually the opposite.

Basically the only rules are:
  1. You must be married to the person you are having sex with.
  2. You must be open to the possibility of life in the sexual act.
  3. The act must finish in the natural manner.
I’d say most things are ok as foreplay as long as the act finishes with the man ejaculating into the appropriate place.

I’d say the only morally dubious kinds of things are things that distort the act, like BDSM or anal sex. I’d imagine those are morally problematic, at best.
 
Sorry if I wasn’t clear— I am well aware it isn’t found in either. That was a challenge to the OP. If he/she claims it is there, he/she should produce it.
 
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