Church lifts ban of Indian priest convicted of U.S. sexual assault

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Padres1969 said:
Going to be interesting to hear what kind of justification they could possibly use in lifting the suspension of a convicted child molester. If anything he should have been laicized.
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So with any other offense, we should forgive and let them slowly earn back their trust and respect, but when it comes to this kind of thing, they are ‘blacklisted’ for life, even if they have proven they were sorry and have paid their debt to society?
 
mikekle said:
So with any other offense, we should forgive and let them slowly earn back their trust and respect, but when it comes to this kind of thing, they are ‘blacklisted’ for life, even if they have proven they were sorry and have paid their debt to society?
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Well, if I am correct, in secular society those who are convicted of child molestation are prohibited from certain situations, correct? I thought they cannot be involved in children’s activities. Not that the Church should follow what secular society does (of course not), but I brought that up as an example of consequences of actions.

With all the horrible activities that have gone on in the Church in regards to this matter, I think it is not unreasonable to go above and beyond to show the world the Church is committed to protecting children. Forgiving a person doesn’t mean forgetting what he did.

I don’t know what the correct course of action is in this case, but it certainly makes the Church look bad, in my opinion.
 
mikekle said:
So with any other offense, we should forgive and let them slowly earn back their trust and respect, but when it comes to this kind of thing, they are ‘blacklisted’ for life, even if they have proven they were sorry and have paid their debt to society?
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Not all. But other similarly grave offenses aren’t just forgiven and forgotten either. I mean if a priest murdered a teenage girl or burned several churches down do you not think they’d be rightly laicized? Or that someone else in another job would lose their position under similar circumstances? For example a teacher would never be able to work again as a teacher if they raped a student. Or a daycare worker would never be permitted to work in day care again if they molested a young child in their care.

This priest should not be allowed to continue in his pastoral role as a priest. He can find forgiveness from God, but that doesn’t mean he should be allowed to continue on as a supposed representative of Christ on Earth when he’s clearly abused the position. I mean where are the consequences for his actions? :confused:

Particularly with all the flak the church has taken in recent years, to come out with such a frankly weak reaction to a clearly guilty priest does nothing but make one question if the church is serious about the issue of child molestation and rape. :nope:
 
Padres1969 said:
Going to be interesting to hear what kind of justification they could possibly use in lifting the suspension of a convicted child molester. If anything he should have been laicized.
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He should have definitely been laicised, as soon as he was convicted of such a crime.
 
Ooty: Officials of the Catholic Church in the Tamil Nadu region of Udhagamandalam have denied that they have reinstated a priest who recently served a prison sentence for sexually abusing a minor in the United States.
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An official at the Ootacamund Diocese, however, told Scroll.in that Jeyapaul has not been reinstated in a manner that would endanger children. “He is not reinstated, he has just been granted a residence for his stay,” said Father Selvanathan, the media spokesperson for the Ootacamund Diocese. “He will not hold any post or have any responsibilities.”
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mattersindia.com/2016/04/indian-diocese-denied-reinstatement-of-molester-priest/
 
rmartensjr said:
mattersindia.com/2016/04/indian-diocese-denied-reinstatement-of-molester-priest/
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That article is full of contradiction. The first sentence says, “Officials of the Catholic Church in the Tamil Nadu region of Udhagamandalam have denied that they have reinstated a priest”, yet later in the article, “An official at the Ootacamund Diocese, however, told Scroll.in that Jeyapaul has not been reinstated in a manner that would endanger children.”

So which is it? Has he not been reinstated, or has he been reinstated (just in a manner they deem won’t be a “risk to children”)?
 
mikekle said:
So with any other offense, we should forgive and let them slowly earn back their trust and respect, but when it comes to this kind of thing, they are ‘blacklisted’ for life, even if they have proven they were sorry and have paid their debt to society?
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Laicised! Blacklisted! Lay is the highest calling, the most important vocation. If the CDF confirmed his suspension he would be open to huge blessing. That the entire CDF and almost the entire clergy everywhere treat their status as an insiders’ club for the entitled, has unmasked itself and not for the first time. The Church is desperately short of laity.

He had been suspended. In fact, not as much as laicised. The CDF at the urging of the bishop of that place have announced their values. That bishop is not going to tell the locals what the man has done. He can’t “earn” trust if people don’t know he needs to.

Now apparently he has not exactly been appointed to any position yet, though there is a rumour he may be put in charge of diocesan schools, where he may enforce an incorrect standard towards those of a similar record. (It is not difficult to access the very large number of reports.)

If he is not going to be appointed, he doesn’t need to be unsuspended. Therefore the bishop’s and CDF’s action is horrendously suspect.

Minor quibbling about the precise level of exactness of the complainants’ awareness of the diocese’s latest actions and plans with that man don’t in the event lessen the validity of their point.
 
Padres1969 said:
That article is full of contradiction. The first sentence says, “Officials of the Catholic Church in the Tamil Nadu region of Udhagamandalam have denied that they have reinstated a priest”, yet later in the article, “An official at the Ootacamund Diocese, however, told Scroll.in that Jeyapaul has not been reinstated in a manner that would endanger children.”

**So which is it? **Has he not been reinstated, or has he been reinstated (just in a manner they deem won’t be a “risk to children”)?
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Good question… I don’t know. 🤷
 
Vic_Taltrees_UK said:
Laicised! Blacklisted! Lay is the highest calling, the most important vocation. If the CDF confirmed his suspension he would be open to huge blessing. That the entire CDF and almost the entire clergy everywhere treat their status as an insiders’ club for the entitled, has unmasked itself and not for the first time. The Church is desperately short of laity.

He had been suspended. In fact, not as much as laicised. The CDF at the urging of the bishop of that place have announced their values. That bishop is not going to tell the locals what the man has done. He can’t “earn” trust if people don’t know he needs to.

Now apparently he has not exactly been appointed to any position yet, though there is a rumour he may be put in charge of diocesan schools, where he may enforce an incorrect standard towards those of a similar record. (It is not difficult to access the very large number of reports.)

If he is not going to be appointed, he doesn’t need to be unsuspended. Therefore the bishop’s and CDF’s action is horrendously suspect.

Minor quibbling about the precise level of exactness of the complainants’ awareness of the diocese’s latest actions and plans with that man don’t in the event lessen the validity of their point.
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Your comments are exceedingly long on suppositions and exceedingly short on facts.
 
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