Church of Christ mom of Catholic child

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I am trying to understand The Roman Catholic Church,our eldest daughter married into the Roman Catholic Faith…We are Church of Christ from Tennessee (please note y’all we are NOT Mormom…we are what most people call “Campbellites”…I don’t like that term, but I have to let you know I am NOT Mormon) …
We baptized for the forgiveness of sins, in The Name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit…just like y’all do.(not a symbolic measure like other churches) …only we follow believers Baptism…the person being Baptized by immersion MUST believe and understand him/herself not by proxy (ie godparents)
 
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My question is why y’all baptized babies that don’t understand the believers baptism???
 
Proverbs31woman said:
My question is why y’all baptized babies that don’t understand the believers baptism???
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For Catholics (and all Christians who baptize in the Trinitarian Form) baptism is the new circumcision. Recall in Genesis that God commanded Abraham to have all male children circumcised on the 8th day as a sign and seal of the covenant. That is what we call the Old Covenant. Jesus is the New Covenant. The New Covenant of Jesus does not abolish the Old but fulfills it. (“Do not think I have come to abolish it, I have come to fulfill it.”) We baptize infants as a sign of our understanding of how the New completes the Old. Christ many times said, “do not keep the little children from me.” Of course he wasn’t speaking directly pertaining to baptism, but does not Christ want all to be baptized into his life, death, and resurrection? Even the littlest ones?
 
If an infant was trapped in a burning building, would you take them out of it, or wait until they could choose to be rescued?

That’s how Catholics view infant baptism- necessary for salvation from the real fire of hell.
 
I understand that completely, we believe those before the age of consent/understanding…(age depends on child’s understanding) he or she is saved no matter what, whether his or her parent baptized, Christen, or Dedicated the child…including those miscarried, stillborn or worse…aborted :cry:
We dedicate our babies…begin bible teaching in “Cradle Roll” (as soon as dedicated…usually 3-6 weeks) …and continue biblical classes for life…till old age death
 
And Proverbs, initiation into the Roman Catholic Church is a process. We do not consider it a “one time” thing. It starts with Baptism (infant or otherwise). Then comes the Eucharist, the bread and wine of the New Covenant, usually around 7 years of age which the RCC considers the age of reason; where a child fully accepts and understands what he is doing. And lastly there is confirmation, something akin to the Jewish custom of Bar or Bat Mitzvah, where the person is confirmed in the faith after much teaching. Confirmation is often around 10 to 12 years of age, although some places confirm earlier. It is significantly different that the idea that baptism is a one time thing done when the person has personally accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior at whatever age.
Believer’s baptism is fine, the RCC considers baptism in the Trinitarian form valid regardless of denomination. It is just that the RCC considers the parents the child’s first teacher and at baptism, begins a lifetime of teaching that child in the faith.
Shalom
 
(I love your username)

May I recommend a book from the “…for dummies” series called “Catholicism for Dummies”.
It gives a good intro/overview and is easy to read.

Peace 🕊️
 
We hardly consider it a one time thing either…we teach for life. My husband is a deacon in The Church of Christ and is a also a Messianic Jew, where he attends every Saturday. He speaks at several Messianic services…so we totally understand Jewish Traditions…

We do NOT hold fast to the false notion of once saved always saved… we regularly confess our sin PUBLICLY TO GOD and OUR BROTHERS and SISTERS…not silently in a booth…but in front of God to be held by our brothers and sisters not to sin again…
 
EucharisticasMaximus said:
The Bible says all infants go to Heaven.
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Proverbs31woman said:
I agree…
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Where? Please provide a quote and verse. Go ahead and try, but you can’t do it.

In all honestly, Public Revelation NEVER addressed what happens to babies when they die.

Theologians have theorized that they go to:
  • Hell
  • “Limbo” (which is a place of bliss and happiness, but lacking the beatific vision. This place would be the outskirts of hell, similar to where Abraham and all the Old Testament Saints were when waiting for Jesus to open the Gates of Heaven.
  • Or, they have been saved by Christ via His extraordinary Mercy
 
thank you…the name sounds insulting…but I understand friend…I’m dumb when it comes to the Roman Catholic Church …I will check out Amazon 😉
 
Proverbs31woman said:
We hardly consider it a one time thing either…we teach for life. My husband is a deacon in The Church of Christ and is a also a Messianic Jew, where he attends every Saturday. He speaks at several Messianic services…so we totally understand Jewish Traditions…

We do NOT hold fast to the false notion of once saved always saved… we regularly confess our sin PUBLICLY TO GOD and OUR BROTHERS and SISTERS…not silently in a booth…but in front of God to be held by our brothers and sisters not to sin again…
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Very admirable. My use of one time thing was only to contrast some Protestant understanding of baptism with the Catholic tradition of an ongoing process.

The RCC takes seriously Jesus’ words to his apostles to “forgive men’s sins”. So we have the sacrament of reconciliation or penance. We use “the booth” for privacy, believing that the process of confessing one’s sins and receiving absolution (or forgiveness) is private. I don’t know if I could publicly profess all the various type of sin publicly. Would that not lend itself to people seeking retribution if they were wronged and found out in a confessional environment, who harmed them? Like I said, your form is admirable. Thank heaven I’m Catholic. Couldn’t do it your way.
Shalom
 
we believe the last statement
“they have been saved by Christ via His extraordinary Mercy”
 
I respect that, and yes there are times I wished for privacy…especially when I was younger…the more I learn about the Catholic Church, the more I see how close together we are 😀

God bless you!!!
 
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