Church of Christ mom of Catholic child

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OP, I’m so sorry you’ve seen such bad witnesses for the Catholic faith in the people around you. It must be quite upsetting and I sense it might have left a bad taste in your mouth for Catholics. But I appreciate your respectful questions. I can assure you, there are many, MANY faithful Catholics who are truly loving Jesus and living out their faith. So don’t be discouraged and keep asking questions. The Church is full of sinners…we are all in need of God’s mercy. :hugs:
 
Shower of Roses, I understand, The Church is a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints…I understand completely, reguardless of Church…
believe me there are those in our church who try to condone their sin, and they are not Christian in their walk…no one is immune, sadly yes, the Catholics I know are not Christians in their walk…but that does not mean by the few I know the rest are not warriors for Christ…Christianity is in ones heart…being a follower of Our Lord Jesus Christ is based on our submission to Him…to follow Him and Be like Him…❤️
 
That’s wonderful, I appreciate that you understand. I just recently converted and am sooo happy about it, but I’ve faced intense opposition from my former Protestant family and friends. There’s a lot of Catholic hatred in my neck of the woods.
 
ShowersofRoses said:
I’ve faced intense opposition from my former Protestant family and friends. There’s a lot of Catholic hatred in my neck of the woods.
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Same here! I have a very devout JW grandmother… You can guess how that’s working out haha.
 
I just have to say Maximillian75’s post is a very poor example of the Love of Our God…I would like this person to explain aborted or miscarried or stillborn children…

Children can not understand…and Our Lord has mercy on them…have the faith of a child…God bless the Christian mother and father who brings their baby into the faith either through dedication, Christening or infant Baptism… as they raise their children in the faith
 
Proverbs31woman said:
I would like this person to explain aborted or miscarried or stillborn children…
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Proverbs31woman said:
Children can not understand…and Our Lord has mercy on them…have the faith of a child…
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Yeah, this is what we believe, aborted babies are saved. You really just disproved your own beliefs because babies have so faith to be saved, thus meaning by that heretical theology, all aborted babies will not reach salvation.
 
do you not understand the love and mercy of our Lord??? Children are saved…PERIOD
 
ICHTHYS said:
These babies later, when they grow up, can reaffirm their baptismal vows themselves during first holy communion, when they prepare to receive the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist.
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Indeed the entire community renews its baptismal vows whenever a baptism is administered, often on a Sunday during the mass, and especially at Easter celebration.
 
Proverbs31woman said:
do you not understand the love and mercy of our Lord??? Children are saved…PERIOD
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Well, people are saved by faith. Children don’t know about God, this means they can’t have faith. This means children don’t get saved. After all, sola fide is your doctrine unless you are saying it’s false. I am saying the same thing you are saying, babies are saved.
 
Church of Christ is not sola fide… understand we are from the restoration movement…NOT reformation…we uphold James…Faith without works is dead…

Our dear children,sadly lost before the age of reason are saved, as in Jesus said, let the little ones come unto me…
 
Wannano said:
LOL, if the Catholic Church is the one started by Jesus, it has changed the form of publicly confessing to making it a private form.
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So? What does this inane statement have to do with anything? I don’t get it.
 
dallas_r said:
Yeah, this is what we believe, aborted babies are saved. You really just disproved your own beliefs because babies have so faith to be saved, thus meaning by that heretical theology, all aborted babies will not reach salvation.
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Hi! I know it was briefly mentioned, but wasn’t highlighted explicitly with a Biblical reference. Baptism is the circumcision of Christ. It replaces the circumcision of the flesh… a process by which babies were initiated into Judaism. In the same way, baptism, which is a physical act through which God outpours His Grace as a free gift to man, similarly is how Christians are initiated into the faith. And just as the Jews initiated babies into the faith through circumcision of the flesh, there is no reason not to initiate children into Christianity through the circumcision of Christ (baptism). This is what St Paul means in Colossians 2 when he says:
10 And you are filled in him, who is the head of all principality and power:
11 In whom also you are circumcised with circumcision not made by hand, in despoiling of the body of the flesh, but in the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, in whom also you are risen again by the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him up from the dead.
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As I wrote in a another thread.

We are reminded of your baptism every single time we make the sign of the cross, when we enter the church and make the sign of the cross with holy water, when we are sprinkled with holy water at the beginning of Mass instead of Kyrie and also during the Easter Vigil when we renew our baptismal promises. We also renew our baptismal promises when we receive our First Holy Communion and the Sacrament of Confirmation. As Catholics we live baptism every day. When we are baptised we become a part of the Body of Christ.
 
phil19034 said:
We hardly consider it a one time thing either…we teach for life. My husband is a deacon in The Church of Christ and is a also a Messianic Jew, where he attends every Saturday. He speaks at several Messianic services…so we totally understand Jewish Traditions…
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How did your husband become a Messianic Jew, did he just go to a service, sign a registration book, and then he was a Jew, or did he need to be circumcised first?
 
joeybaggz said:
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Wannano:
LOL, if the Catholic Church is the one started by Jesus, it has changed the form of publicly confessing to making it a private form.
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So? What does this inane statement have to do with anything? I don’t get it.
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Just because you do not understand does not mean you need to call it stupid. The CC claims to be the one and only Church from the beginning of Christianity. Show me where in the New Testament it says that we are to confess our sins privately to a priest. The practice of the early Church was to confess to one another in the arena of the Church. Don’t be fooled into thinking this was just some liturgical statement that they all said together at every service as is common today. Proverbs31woman explained that this Biblical practice is one that her Church practices today. You called it admirable but not one you could readily do and then expressed thankfulness for being Catholic because you do not have to do that. It struck me as ironic and humorous that you are glad you are Catholic so you do not have to confess your sins in public when in fact that was the practice of the original Church which you I am quite sure claim is the Catholic Church.
 
Piano or non-piano 🙂

My father is actually listed in “The Encyclopedia of the Stone Campbell Movement”. I grew up immersed (literally and figuratively).

Some of the things that you have in common with the Catholic Church is that you believe water baptism is salvific. The CoC has a deep reverence for the Lord’s Supper; in fact, that was one of my earliest paths to the Catholic Church. When I was a kid, 1 Cor 11 passage was always read before the Lord’s Supper. As a little girl I would be so concerned because I did NOT want to eat or drink damnation unto myself! So, I would open my Bible, it had lovely color paintings of various things, I would look at the painting of the Crucifixion of Christ because I figured that was the most “worthy” thought I could hold. As I grew up, it was that passage that made me question more and more and led me to believe in the Real Presence.

Anyway, prayers for you. I am here if you want to dialogue!

For those reading, the “Campbellite” term comes from Mr. Stone and Mr. Campbell’s “Restoration Movement”, nothing to do with Mormonism (honestly, I’ve never experienced that confusion!)
 
I understand your frustration, for a large number of Catholics, their only exposure to non-Catholic Christians are OSAS folks. I’d tell them that growing up I never knew anyone who was OSAS, in fact, we were taught against that heresy. We grew up knowing we sinned and that we could lose our salvation through sin, that repentance was vital.

Your husband might find some of the articles or books here to be of interest. http://www.hebrewcatholic.net/
 
Have to jump in here.

“Crossing The Tiber” is written with a Baptist, OSAS believer in mind.

As someone from the Church of Christ, believe me, this book is great for OSAS folks, but, is not speaking to those from the fellowship that @Proverbs31woman is part of.

I would suggest Frank Sheed and Peter Kreeft’s work.
 
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