Church of England backs women bishops

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Any truth to the rumors that the CoE have already allowed the Power Rangers to become Bishops? šŸ˜‰
 
Somebody prob asked this already? But do people, really see, that more people from the Anglican Church, especially their priests (someone told me here on CAF that they call them priests and not pastors). come to the Catholic Church? Or is it one of those well their going to adjust to the new ruling?
 
chero23 said:
Somebody prob asked this already? But do people, really see, that more people from the Anglican Church, especially their priests (someone told me here on CAF that they call them priests and not pastors). come to the Catholic Church? Or is it one of those well their going to adjust to the new ruling?
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In the Church of England they call them priests or ministers (or both) depending on churchmanship.

My uninformed view is that people flit between churches (it astonishes me how many posters here are former this and former-former that), but on the whole there are no great shifts from one mainstream denomination to another. I would say ā€œyesā€ to your last sentence. At any rate a great deal of agony has been suffered In the Church of England ensuring that systems are in place that allow people to adjust without compromising their faith.
 
BernadetteM said:
I was speaking of Anglicans as a whole, not just individuals, whether a Bishop, priest or layperson. Actually as a life long Anglican before converting, I never heard any Anglican/TEC individual claim to be catholic, except for Anglo Catholics. As a youth we were considered protestant.

What the plan is for women bishops in England might be what I read over a year ago, that the parishes that didnā€™t want a women priest and now I guess a women bishop donā€™t have to have one in their parish. However, I think you mentioned that a male priest could have been ordained by a women bishop and I would think that that defeats the purpose.

All sad, but not unexpected.

God Bless

Bernadette
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It certainly is more likely that an Anglo-Catholic would use the term Catholic. But my point is that that is not particularly new.

As to the idea of how a female in a miter might interact, with those who cannot accept such, under the stated structure to protect such folkā€™s beliefs, I donā€™t know. But such is asserted, somehow parallel to the Episcopal Visitors system set up when females in collars begin appearing.

Yep, sad.

GKC
 
Picky_Picky said:
In the Church of England they call them priests or ministers (or both) depending on churchmanship.

My uninformed view is that people flit between churches (it astonishes me how many posters here are former this and former-former that), but on the whole there are no great shifts from one mainstream denomination to another. I would say ā€œyesā€ to your last sentence. At any rate a great deal of agony has been suffered In the Church of England ensuring that systems are in place that allow people to adjust without compromising their faith.
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I think that people change for different reasons. Sometimes it might bc you were naĆÆve and moved, or sometimes you were selfish and you could care less. But overtime the person said, its not about me.
 
GKC said:
It certainly is more likely that an Anglo-Catholic would use the term Catholic. But my point is that that is not particularly new.

As to the idea of how a female in a miter might interact, with those who cannot accept such, under the stated structure to protect such folkā€™s beliefs, I donā€™t know. But such is asserted, somehow parallel to the Episcopal Visitors system set up when females in collars begin appearing.

Yep, sad.

GKC
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If you feel up to struggling through the opaque CofE bureaucracy, I think the guts of the new arrangements fall in the annex to this report. Much emphasis is being placed on the ā€œfive principlesā€ therein contained.

churchofengland.org/media/1909977/gs%201932%20-%20report%20from%20the%20house%20of%20bishops.pdf
 
benjohnson said:
Any truth to the rumors that the CoE have already allowed the Power Rangers to become Bishops? šŸ˜‰
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Are these Anglican bishops?

And why all the different colors of vestments? What is that for or what does the different colors signify?
 
BernadetteM said:
I was speaking of Anglicans as a whole, not just individuals, whether a Bishop, priest or layperson. Actually as a life long Anglican before converting, I never heard any Anglican/TEC individual claim to be catholic, except for Anglo Catholics. As a youth we were considered protestant.
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You must have been saying the creed every week though, right?
 
pablope said:
Are these Anglican bishops?

And why all the different colors of vestments? What is that for or what does the different colors signify?
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As I understand it, they are female Bishops in various Anglican communions that allow for such things.

As a curmudgeon, I would expect that non-traditional Bishops would chose non-traditional vestments. My uneducated hunch is that the rainbow vestments probably donā€™t have much to do with Godā€™s promise after the flood.
 
benjohnson said:
As I understand it, they are female Bishops in various Anglican communions that allow for such things.

As a curmudgeon, I would expect that non-traditional Bishops would chose non-traditional vestments. My uneducated hunch is that the rainbow vestments probably donā€™t have much to do with Godā€™s promise after the flood.
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Smarty pants! :rolleyes:
 
CarolNoel said:
Well if he thought ā€œnot muchā€ I would still like to know what he thought.
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Hank would not have known what a female bishop could possibly be. The concept would be as alien to him as it would be to a RC following RCC teaching on that subject today. More so, since he would not have seen any deviation on that point.

GKC
 
benjohnson said:
As I understand it, they are female Bishops in various Anglican communions that allow for such things.

As a curmudgeon, I would expect that non-traditional Bishops would chose non-traditional vestments. My uneducated hunch is that the rainbow vestments probably donā€™t have much to do with Godā€™s promise after the flood.
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In the Episcopal Church, the gracious Katherineā€™s miter alone is legendary.

It is possible (thatā€™s a small pic and my eyes are the same age as the rest of me) that the individual on the far right does not fully fit your guess. But I canā€™t tell.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Thank you. We shall see.

GKC
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Ok. Iā€™ve read it.

What could possibly go wrong. All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well. For we are in control.

I like the word ā€œpromulgeā€.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Ok. Iā€™ve read it.

What could possibly go wrong. All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well. For we are in control.

I like the word ā€œpromulgeā€.

GKC
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I do wonder what the Lady Julian would(/does) make of all thisā€¦
 
Novocastrian said:
You must have been saying the creed every week though, right?
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As a youth before I could find an Anglo Catholic parish, the low church did say the Apostles Creed as we had morning prayer 3 Sundays a month, however, no one felt that the would ā€œcatholicā€ meant they were part of the Catholic Church or that they were Catholic.

The minister was called a minister, not a priest, also no title other than Mr. or Dr. and it was a large wealthy congregation that thought TEC was protestant.

Over the past years I have noticed many clergy in TEC refer to themselves as belonging to a catholic church. This was not the norm when I was much younger.

It really doesnā€™t matter as one can call themselves anything they wish and that does not make it so. I have no problem with those who choose to stay in TEC or become part of the Continuing groups (which are not accepted by the CoE as part of the Anglican Communion). One must do what their conscience leads them as long as they are honest about their choice. From reading a Continuing Anglo Catholic groups website, they accept the 39 Articles fully, which as a former Anglo Catholic our parish and others did not.

May God Bless those who stay and give them the strength to accept the new theology of the Anglican Communion. I have never had a problem with others belonging to a denomination as there are many good things that non Catholics practice, the social side is one Catholics and even many Episcopalians can learn from.

Bernadette
 
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