Church of England backs women bishops

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SteveVH said:
Yes. This is a brick wall to unity.
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That it certainly is. There was a study done by the CofE that specifically stated this move would damage relations with the Catholics and Orthodox but would improve relations with various liberal Protestant groups.
 
Seraphim73 said:
That it certainly is. There was a study done by the CofE that specifically stated this move would damage relations with the Catholics and Orthodox but would improve relations with various liberal Protestant groups.
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It certainly removes one of the last barriers to the reunion of the CofE and the Methodist Church of Great Britain.
 
Seraphim73 said:
That it certainly is. There was a study done by the CofE that specifically stated this move would damage relations with the Catholics and Orthodox but would improve relations with various liberal Protestant groups.
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That is what is so sad and somewhat surprising to me. They had to have know what this would do, and yet they made this choice. I gave them a lot more credit than that and am very interested as to how the average Anglican will view this and the future of this faith tradition (that is if there is such a thing as an average Anglican, motley crew that they are. :D).
 
SteveVH said:
That is what is so sad and somewhat surprising to me. They had to have know what this would do, and yet they made this choice. I gave them a lot more credit than that and am very interested as to how the average Anglican will view this and the future of this faith tradition (that is if there is such a thing as an average Anglican, motley crew that they are. :D).
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The Russian Orthodox Church has ended the official dialogue with the Church of England, but has vowed to continue dialogue with some of the so called continuing Anglican groups.
 
Seraphim73 said:
The Russian Orthodox Church has ended the official dialogue with the Church of England, but has vowed to continue dialogue with some of the so called continuing Anglican groups.
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Yeah, where do you go from here? I don’t think it was a secret that things were headed this way but its kind of like expecting a loved one to die. You know its coming but when it does it seems devastating anyway.

Not sure why any dialogue would really matter at this point. 🤷
 
SteveVH said:
Yeah, where do you go from here? I don’t think it was a secret that things were headed this way but its kind of like expecting a loved one to die. You know its coming but when it does it seems devastating anyway.

Not sure why any dialogue would really matter at this point. 🤷
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The only reason the Russian orthodox were trying to get the anglicans in the first place was to try to isolate Catholics. Now that their major partner went down a path that they can’t follow they’re stuck. Besides continuing anglicans don’t care about communion with the Russian orthodox so the talk means nothing.
 
boar2roar said:
The only reason the Russian orthodox were trying to get the anglicans in the first place was to try to isolate Catholics. Now that their major partner went down a path that they can’t follow they’re stuck. Besides continuing anglicans don’t care about communion with the Russian orthodox so the talk means nothing.
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Do you think dialogue can still continue with the CoE and the CC? Of course we will still be in discussion with the various Anglican groups who are leaning our direction anyway but this action stops any hope of a future communion with the CoE. The motives of the Russian Orthodox aren’t really part of the equation.
 
JonNC said:
Could be. Or it could mean more moving to continuing Anglican communions.

Jon
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May the Holy Spirit draw all back the the foundation upon which the Church is built! To the Holy Apostles and Prophets, and the faith they espoused!

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SteveVH said:
That is what is so sad and somewhat surprising to me. They had to have know what this would do, and yet they made this choice. I gave them a lot more credit than that and am very interested as to how the average Anglican will view this and the future of this faith tradition (that is if there is such a thing as an average Anglican, motley crew that they are. :D).
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The average Anglican is, indeed, motley.

GKC
 
Seraphim73 said:
The Russian Orthodox Church has ended the official dialogue with the Church of England, but has vowed to continue dialogue with some of the so called continuing Anglican groups.
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Yep.

GKC

posterus traditus Anglicanus
 
boar2roar said:
The only reason the Russian orthodox were trying to get the anglicans in the first place was to try to isolate Catholics. Now that their major partner went down a path that they can’t follow they’re stuck. Besides continuing anglicans don’t care about communion with the Russian orthodox so the talk means nothing.
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Oh, I wouldn’t say that. I know of Anglicans in the Continuum who are is talks with more than one sort of Orthodox.

GKC
 
SteveVH said:
Do you think dialogue can still continue with the CoE and the CC? Of course we will still be in discussion with the various Anglican groups who are leaning our direction anyway but this action stops any hope of a future communion with the CoE. The motives of the Russian Orthodox aren’t really part of the equation.
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CC mean catholic? There will be dialogue but it means nothing, we have dialogue with plenty of groups. The CoE is just another liberal protestant denomination.
 
JonNC said:
Do you think, then that they will move to the Ordinariate? Or simply stay put?

Jon
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I think that the “disaffected Anglican” is, like James Thurber’s unicorn, a mythical beast, in these days. Most of the exodus, or realignments, from official Anglicanism is probably in the past, save for those who might find the ACNA a good fit. Those for whom such things as the proper subject for the sacrament of orders, including the Episcopate, are a concern, have mostly left, already, or are prepared to accommodate.

Personal opinion.

GKC
 
" This decision only puts more space between Anglican and Catholic communions. This will never, ever, be accepted by the CC."

of course the comment above is correct
-the long slow dance between the Anglicans and Romans will continue unabated however-

in reality there will never be unity between the two if the Roman Catholic Church does not change on issues of human sexuality -and it shows not one bit of inclination that it will do so

the sides are drawn up -on the left all the mainline Protestants - Old Catholics and other catholic splinter groups versus on the right the Roman Catholics-Orthodox and Southern Baptists

The forces of the right have the numbers
 
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