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I have for some reason been the weakest I’ve ever been since being in the Church. I have lost desire to go once a week. Desire for penance I know something’s wrong. Should I start with the Hail Mary or device mercy prayer? Something to bring me closer to make a desire for going to Mass. 😦
 
Start with a Rosary. I’d recommend the Sorrowful Mysteries. Meditate on the Lord’s Passion, then ask yourself why you can’t give Him back an hour a week.
 
Don’t worry about desire - just do it. Our emotions don’t always match up with the things we do. But we have to do the good things - Mass, prayer, etc - anyway.
 
Extremely helpful.to find some.brilliant catholic reading or writings of the saints and read a chapter of more each day!
When you pray, you speak to God
When you read catholic spiritual books, God speaks to you!

Block out of your life anything sinful, whether it is programmes on TV, sinful music, books with unchastity
etc, sinful places eg nightclubs, bars, bad friends, etc…

All sinful things in the modern culture deafening us to God’s voice. Cut them out and you will hear God clearer in your soul.
 
I have for some reason been the weakest I’ve ever been since being in the Church. I have lost desire to go once a week. Desire for penance I know something’s wrong. Should I start with the Hail Mary or device mercy prayer? Something to bring me closer to make a desire for going to Mass. 😦
I join to all previous advice. I’d also advice to maybe try visiting another parish once, for difference’s sake.
 
^ I endorse this. You could even attend a different liturgy from time to time - an Anglican use Mass, a TLM, an Eastern Rite Divine Liturgy.
 
Extremely helpful.to find some.brilliant catholic reading or writings of the saints and read a chapter of more each day!
When you pray, you speak to God
When you read catholic spiritual books, God speaks to you!

Block out of your life anything sinful, whether it is programmes on TV, sinful music, books with unchastity
etc, sinful places eg nightclubs, bars, bad friends, etc…

All sinful things in the modern culture deafening us to God’s voice. Cut them out and you will hear God clearer in your soul.
Unchastity. Yes it’s wrecking all. As far as TV I don’t watch it. Bars I used to go to to meet people and I drank soda. I stayed away from sinfulness and made some friends or acquaintances I still talk to from time to time.
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 I went to Mass and absolution last Sat. I haven't been going anywhere or doing much in the last summer. Too hot. Now it's getting cooler and I'd like to start taking obligations seriously. My most serious sins are Masturbation and not attending Mass regularly. I have anxiety and depression bad too though. That might effect culpability of both sins.

 I have no spiritual advisor. My pastor absolves me and doesn't give much advice. He sure seems not to care.
 
Unchastity. Yes it’s wrecking all. As far as TV I don’t watch it. Bars I used to go to to meet people and I drank soda. I stayed away from sinfulness and made some friends or acquaintances I still talk to from time to time.
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 I went to Mass and absolution last Sat. I haven't been going anywhere or doing much in the last summer. Too hot. Now it's getting cooler and I'd like to start taking obligations seriously. My most serious sins are Masturbation and not attending Mass regularly. I have anxiety and depression bad too though. That might effect culpability of both sins.

 I have no spiritual advisor. My pastor absolves me and doesn't give much advice. He sure seems not to care.
Have you tried talking to him, telling him you might be having a crisis of faith?
 
Unchastity. Yes it’s wrecking all. As far as TV I don’t watch it. Bars I used to go to to meet people and I drank soda. I stayed away from sinfulness and made some friends or acquaintances I still talk to from time to time.
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 I went to Mass and absolution last Sat. I haven't been going anywhere or doing much in the last summer. Too hot. Now it's getting cooler and I'd like to start taking obligations seriously. My most serious sins are Masturbation and not attending Mass regularly. I have anxiety and depression bad too though. That might effect culpability of both sins.

 I have no spiritual advisor. My pastor absolves me and doesn't give much advice. He sure seems not to care.
The confessional is not the place for lengthy spiritual advice. It is the place to confess one’s sins, receive absolution and penance, and move out so someone else can confess.
 
The confessional is not the place for lengthy spiritual advice. It is the place to confess one’s sins, receive absolution and penance, and move out so someone else can confess.
Yes I see. I talked to him. Outside of the confessional. You are right.
 
Have you tried talking to him, telling him you might be having a crisis of faith?
He said it is said that “faith in not in knowing but in relationship”. I don’t know who said that. But it was very good advice. He suggested I pray ask for intercession by a certain saint. And ask God “Why are you leading me through this?” Simply viewing his advice helped. Of course there’s Mary. He said in weakness the devil attacks.

Bill
 
I have anxiety and depression bad too though.
Anxiety and depression crippled me for over a decade. Thanks be to God, two years ago I finally got medical help that actually worked, and I am not only back to Mass, but I am now making friends in the parish and starting a late-life career, as well as having better family relationships.

Now that I am out of the darkness, I can see that I did more harm than good yelling at myself for years that I just needed to pull myself together and get to Mass (which I would do now and then, only to fall back into isolation).

What I really needed was to get Communion to the Sick brought to me because I was emotionally and psychologically incapable of making the trek to the parish and sitting calmly for an hour.

I seriously hope you consider asking for Communion to be brought to you. And if you want to talk about possible medical options, I’ll gladly exchange experiences with you. Everybody is different, that’s why finding medicine for psychological problems is like searching for the Holy Grail.

The rest of my post may not be relevant to your experience, but because it was the driving force of mine, I thank you for the opportunity of letting me share it.

I’m now going to get on a soap box because that decade of hell, followed by these two years of God’s mercy, have made it impossible for me to hold my tongue:

I believe I could have endured the treks to and from the parish if the hour in the pews had been calm and holy. But instead of calm, there is hyped up music with no notes supplied to help us join in what is supposed to be sung prayer but instead amounts to a bad Teen Nickelodeon performance. Instead of holiness, I hear a lot of songs about our journey and psalms that have been paraphrased from authorized versions.

Top that off with a priest who could not give a homily without pointing out how evil the “pre-Vatican II Church” was, and when I did make it to Mass, it happened more than once that I had to leave the pew and go spit up bile.

Obviously, this is an over-reaction. My anxiety makes me like the Princess and the Pea - everything bothers me more than it should. Now that I have medicine, my ability to endure having disobedience shoved down my throat has greatly improved.

But the fact that my sensibilities are raw does not mean they are misguided. Upon feeling better, I have begun examining the causes of my pain. It has helped nothing to discover that over two-thirds of the songs in our hymnal which are specifically designated for use at Communion have no mention of the Body of Christ. I hope anyone reading this will seriously ponder that. I’m not talking about two-thirds of total songs. No, it is two-thirds of Communion songs that do not mention the Body of Christ. Of the songs that do mention it, most refer to the Mystical Body, not the Real Presence.

My fallen self wonders how much this has to do with the money being made off of cross-over music in the Protestant community.

My redeemed self worries that there is a misguided attempt in place to make it easier for Protestants to convert which is, in reality, simply clearing the pews of Catholics who are losing their faith in the Eucharist.

And the pews are clearing like crazy in my parish. I am a convert who had to study and pray to come to believe in the Eucharist. I’m not going anywhere because I have nowhere else to go. But many cradle Catholics were not blessed with having to fight to understand the belief, so when it is not re-enforced, they’re left with nothing to draw them into the church but a bunch of hyped-up music - which they are now having to pay more for because paid singers are becoming more common.
 
Mass should be a joyful time and not something to endure and dread. If your parish is causing you problems, find another. I can recommend attending an Ordinariate Mass if you like traditional hymns and orthodox preaching. If anxiety is a problem for you, find a Mass that is less well attended (late morning? evening? vigil Mass?). Again, try the Ordinariate, we have beautiful Masses in an almost empty church. 😉
 
Mass should be a joyful time and not something to endure and dread. If your parish is causing you problems, find another. I can recommend attending an Ordinariate Mass if you like traditional hymns and orthodox preaching. If anxiety is a problem for you, find a Mass that is less well attended (late morning? evening? vigil Mass?). Again, try the Ordinariate, we have beautiful Masses in an almost empty church. 😉
I like the weekday Masses at my Parrish myself. No singing no music. Just get to the business. It’s about 45 minutes. There is standing and sitting and kneeling and the parts of Mass are went through and you take the host and/or drink. The vigil when you have to go. I don’t crave so much.
 
I love daily Mass. Unfortunately, at the moment I’m unable to attend, but before my breakdown, I had been a daily communicant for a decade.

As to switching parishes, I have two reasons not to do so: first, I already drive farther than I want to drive in order to attend the closest parish, and second, I feel called to stand my ground and help myself and my fellow sheep who keep getting pushed to the edge of the field.

Although I cannot currently attend daily Mass, I start my day with the Mass readings. Thank God for the internet, which makes such things easily available!
 
Mass should be a joyful time and not something to endure and dread. If your parish is causing you problems, find another. I can recommend attending an Ordinariate Mass if you like traditional hymns and orthodox preaching. If anxiety is a problem for you, find a Mass that is less well attended (late morning? evening? vigil Mass?). Again, try the Ordinariate, we have beautiful Masses in an almost empty church. 😉
It could be a test or trial right? It must be. If you’re tired of Mass.
 
It could be a test or trial right? It must be. If you’re tired of Mass.
It could be a test. But that’s all the more reason to persevere. If you are in the regrettable position of not wanting to go to Mass, you need to all the more.
Although I cannot currently attend daily Mass, I start my day with the Mass readings. Thank God for the internet, which makes such things easily available!
Its better than nothing, but how about expanding on this and saying part of the Liturgy of the Hours every day? Next best thing if you can’t go to Mass.
 
It could be a test. But that’s all the more reason to persevere. If you are in the regrettable position of not wanting to go to Mass, you need to all the more.

Its better than nothing, but how about expanding on this and saying part of the Liturgy of the Hours every day? Next best thing if you can’t go to Mass.
As far as tests and trials go, I was advised to read Teresa of Avila or John of the Cross. That can get pretty deep. I wonder does anyone know the basics? I was told faith was a ‘relationship’.
 
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