Churches back plan to unite under Pope?

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There are several reasons. The American hiearchy, like the English, prefers individual submission. And the last thing that most American ordinaries want to see showing up in their dioceses is a bunch of organised, traditionalist Anglicans who are more Catholic than the Pope. Or more traditionalist Catholic than the ordinary, anyway. Sounds like trouble.

As to a competing liturgy, how open are most dioceses to the indult?

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These are the reasons I suspect also, but they are also reasons that I would hope the Catholic bishops could rise above with a view to becoming all things to all men so that by all possible means they might save some. So to say.
 
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These are the reasons I suspect also, but they are also reasons that I would hope the Catholic bishops could rise above with a view to becoming all things to all men so that by all possible means they might save some. So to say.
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When the Use becomes a Rite, I’ll say it’s progress along those lines.

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It seems that Texas is about it. Almost no other bishops want them.
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Michael, This is not true. There is one in Boston and a very, very recent one in Scranton Pennsylvania.
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According to the official policy on the Anglican Use, when the priest retires the parish MUST become a Latin rite parish. They have no choice in the matter.
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Please show us where the “official policy on the Anglican Use” shows such an agreement. My pastor at Our Lady of the Atonement says there is no such policy. He knows the policy backward and forwards. AMOF the AU churches are actually already “under” the Latin Rite. The AU rite is NOT a separate rite but is an approve variation of the Latin Rite.

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That means that any converting parish will self destruct (or lose it’s identity) at a predictable time. This is not intended to be a way to restore (or incubate) orthodox Anglo-Catholicism, it is a way of easing the absorption of Anglicans into the local Latin rite diocese by steps.
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According to my Pastor from OLA, the Church will remain AU even after he leaves. He should know. He was the first to come into the Catholic Church under the proposal from the bishops of this country who developed terms under which former Episcopal clergymen and other members of the Episcopal Church could be admitted to full communion with the Catholic Church. See THIS SITE
…after the parish is converted to the latin rite (sometime in the future), it is seen as too small to have a priest dedicated to it, the bishop could possibly close it down and sell the property, merging the congregation with another.
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Hah!! I dont see this happenning. This parish started with 18 people. We have about 500 FAMILIES with more coming in all the time. We have a school that is busting at the seams. We just finished a large expansion and it seems like its already too small. We have many, many on the waiting list trying to get into the school It started with an elementary and had about 50 students. We have about 500 students. We now have a high school and this coming September we will have our first senior class. So we now a child can go from pre-K to High school and attend mass thousands of times over that period since ALL students attend daily mass.
If you still feel you are correct, please contact Fr. Phillips at OLA and let him know about the “official policy”.
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TobyLue said:
Hesychios Michael, This is not true. There is one in Boston and a very, very recent one in Scranton Pennsylvania.
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Please show us where the “official policy on the Anglican Use” shows such an agreement. My pastor at Our Lady of the Atonement says there is no such policy. He knows the policy backward and forwards. AMOF the AU churches are actually already “under” the Latin Rite. The AU rite is NOT a separate rite but is an approve variation of the Latin Rite.

andAccording to my Pastor from OLA, the Church will remain AU even after he leaves. He should know. He was the first to come into the Catholic Church under the proposal from the bishops of this country who developed terms under which former Episcopal clergymen and other members of the Episcopal Church could be admitted to full communion with the Catholic Church. See THIS SITEHah!! I dont see this happenning. This parish started with 18 people. We have about 500 FAMILIES with more coming in all the time. We have a school that is busting at the seams. We just finished a large expansion and it seems like its already too small. We have many, many on the waiting list trying to get into the school It started with an elementary and had about 50 students. We have about 500 students. We now have a high school and this coming September we will have our first senior class. So we now a child can go from pre-K to High school and attend mass thousands of times over that period since ALL students attend daily mass.
If you still feel you are correct, please contact Fr. Phillips at OLA and let him know about the “official policy”.
Thanks
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Our Lady of Atonement was precisely the one I had in mind when I said that likely some AU parishes would survive. And it doesn’t appear that a given AU parish must become Latin Rite, when the original priest dies or leaves. IIRC, then local AU parish here, Good Shepherd, went through two priests, before becoming Latin Rite. But there is no program to ensure such a transition (that is, it’s a Use, not a Rite, as has been mentioned). And so AU parishes disappear. Or transition, as is their main mission.

I have no doubt that it is possible for good AU parishes, like Atonement, to flourish. But I fear the AU itself will not do so.

GKC
 
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