Citing growing interest in Traditional Latin Mass, Archbishop Chaput creates quasi-parish

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YourNameHere said:
But we should not have to “follow” the Mass in our own language.
We should just have the Mass said in our language. What is wrong with that?
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Look, you don’t like the Latin mass; that’s fine. But why prevent those who like it from going to it?
 
Hereiam said:
God Bless Him, and I hope it works…but given what we see on this website, which is reflective of the mindset of Catholics in regards to “traditionalism” (on both sides of the issue), I fear it will only be divisive.

Rather than establishing, or even coining a term “quasi-parish” why not encourage and promote parishes that provide both the EF and OF forms of the Mass?
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I live in the Archdiocese of Philly. That’s what we had been doing here in Philly for several years. We have a website that promotes parishes that have the Latin Mass, and there is a Diocesan chaplain assigned to coordinate and promote the Latin Mass.

However, a quasi-parish is needed in order to provide the Holy Triduum and the other six sacarments in the Extraordinary Form.

So my GUESS is that enough people in Philly have asked for more Sacarments in the EF or have specifically have asked for the FSSP.

God Bless
 
Great news today! First we have free coffee today from Wawa, and now a FSSP quasi-parish is being founded! Awesome day in Philly!
 
I never said you could not attend a Mass in Latin.
All I am saying is that I believe that Masses should be conducted in languages so that all Catholics can understand them. Only a small minority of Catholics understand Latin. Most may be able to follow the words.
And I believe that the words of God should be understandable.
This in ONLY my opinion.
I am not trying to offense any Latin Mass lovers.
 
Hey Phil, back off Brother. You can like whatever you want.
All I said was that I prefer to have the Mass recited in my native tongue. There are few native anywhere around the world who speak Latin. Even the Italians speak Italian. Some similarities, but that is about it.
 
Hereiam said:
God Bless Him, and I hope it works…but given what we see on this website, which is reflective of the mindset of Catholics in regards to “traditionalism” (on both sides of the issue), I fear it will only be divisive.

Rather than establishing, or even coining a term “quasi-parish” why not encourage and promote parishes that provide both the EF and OF forms of the Mass?
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BTW - the other issue with relying on the parish level EF mass is its hard maintain a Diocesean level community without not reassigning Priests.

Several diocesan priests who are part of our Latin Mass community have been reassigned due to their other skills, and when they move to other parishes, it has sometimes hurt the Latin Mass community at the parish either moves to another parish or ends.

Until now, in our diocese, the parishes that have the EF and don’t worry about losing are either staffed by religious orders or have enough people devoted to the EF at their parish, that they have received priests who can pray the Latin Mass. But even those parishes are not guaranteed to always have a priest who can pray the Latin mass.

The new quasi-parish is going to be centrally located in the Archdiocese and centrally located for people traveling from all over the Diocese.

So it will be nice to see what happens.

God Bless
 
YourNameHere said:
Hey Phil, back off Brother. You can like whatever you want.
All I said was that I prefer to have the Mass recited in my native tongue. There are few native anywhere around the world who speak Latin. Even the Italians speak Italian. Some similarities, but that is about it.
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Very well. However, your first post was pretty strong. If that was not your intent, my apologies.

God Bless
 
YourNameHere said:
There are few native anywhere around the world who speak Latin.
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Latin is a scholarly language, that is understood by educated people across the world and not just Catholics. It isn’t anyone’s native tongue, but it isn’t obscure.
 
This, plus, to be able to understand the unchanging parts of the Mass and be able to respond, you need far less than actual proficiency.
 
KATRINA_68 said:
I attended an Acadian Reunion in 2009. The Mass, Hymns and Homily were in French, and I remember thinking as you say, of the Universality of the Church, all united in Faith.
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When I was I college, I took French. it was a Catholic college. The professor insisted we buy French-language missals for Mass. On one side was Latin, on the other side was, not English, but French. Why did he do that?

Because by that time, we were so used to the Latin that we all knew what it meant. We really didn’t need the English translation anymore. And so, in order to know what the French said, we were “translating” from Latin into French.

Today in my parish we have a Mass in Spanish. I can sort of understand the Spanish because I learned the prayers in Latin a long time ago. Spanish isn’t all that far removed from Latin. But for that, and the fact that some Spanish words have a French equivalent that’s spelled the same or nearly so, I would not understand any of it.

My adult daughter attends the Spanish Mass most of the time because of transportation issues. At the Spanish Mass there are also no few Central Americans who don’t speak Spanish but some Indian dialect.

I have read that in big cities the Mass might be said in ten or more languages.

I fail to see the harm in a Latin Mass. Most people will understand a lot more of that than they will of Vietnamese, Albanian, or Aguateca.
 
May the love and peace of Jesus Christ be with you today (and every day), Phil!
 
And in England, and formerly in America.
My (now-deceased, God rest her soul) grandmother, a Methodist raised in rural Ohio, in just about the most WASP area you can get, took 2 years of high school latin.
 
Hereiam said:
Quasi-Parish? I don’t get it.

Is there not more to a parish than the Mass Form, or Liturgy used?
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It’s merely a description that has to do with different types of communities defined in canon law. It’s not a territorial parish, so it needs a legal description.

The term “quasi parish” simply means that it is equivalent in the law to a parish (in the sense of having the same corporate rights) but is not an outright parish. That’s often done as a stage in the life of a local community before it becomes a full parish.
 
Maximilian75 said:
a Methodist raised in rural Ohio, in just about the most WASP area you can get, took 2 years of high school latin.
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Why not? Most of the states in the US have Latin mottoes, we have Latin on all of our money, as well as many other consumer products. Has nothing to do with the country’s love of the Catholic Church.
 
This is awesome! The same thing happened in my city. A group asked for the EF, kept it well attended at one parish, and the bishop reopened a shuttered church just for the purpose of this TLM community. Over the past several years, parishioners have raised funds to improve the altar, install communion rails, etc. It’s wonderful that they have a parish that feels like their own.
 
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