Classic Teaching of the Immaculate Conception

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Does anyone know the classic principles involved in the teaching of the Immaculate Conception? :confused:
 
In a simplified form, Mary was conceived immaculately, i.e., without sin, because Jesus, the 2nd Person of the Blessed Trinity, took flesh for his humanity, i.e., the incarnation, from her. Being God, who is infinitely pure, he would not have had flesh from flesh whose principle of life, the soul, had sin. In this case Original Sin.
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The faith of the Church is that Mary was conceived without the stain of original sin. She was deliberately preserved from original sin, because the Father in his infinite knowledge and wisdom knew that she would be the one who would agree to conceive his son.

To be the mother of the God-Man, no trace of sin could be found in her for it was not appropriate for the God-Man to be born from sin. Therefore his mother had to be conceived without sin.

Thus, Mary is the Immaculate Conception.

The great Franciscan theologian Blessed Brother Duns Scotus said, "It was necessary that God do this. It was fitting that he do it. Therefore, he did it. "

Not only was Mary conceived without sin, but she was above sin as the seed of sin was not present hin her soul or her will.

This does not mean that she did not have free will. She could have declined to be the mother of the second person of the Trinity and not have lost her freedom from original sin. A gift given by God is never taken away.

Observe that the Catholic Catechism reminds us that she is redeemed through the merits of her son, not her own, contrary to what many people think that Catholics believe.

It was through Jesus’ merits, even before he was born, that she was redeemed from sin at the moment her parents conceived her. It is always the power of Christ at work.

How is this possible? As St. John tells us in his prologue. Jesus is the pre-existent Word of God. Everything was created through him and for him, including his mother.

**491 Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, “full of grace” through God, was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854:

The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin.**

JR 🙂
 
I’m not sure what you mean by classic principles.

As far as I know, Bl. John Duns Scotus was the first to lay out an argument for this. In a short & sweet form it is “Decuit, potuit, ergo fecit.” (It was fitting, God could do it, therefore He did it.)

Umm… In 1854 Pius IX officially proclaimed it. A few years later Our Lady confirmed it at Lourdes, though that is private revelation and merely worthy of belief, not binding on the faithful.

Catholic Encyclopedia: newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm
If we were to attempt to set forth the full doctrine of the Fathers on the sanctity of the Blessed Virgin, which includes particularly the implicit belief in the immaculateness of her conception, we should be forced to transcribe a multitude of passages. In the testimony of the Fathers two points are insisted upon: her absolute purity and her position as the second Eve (cf. 1 Corinthians 15:22).

Whilst these disputes went on, the great universities and almost all the great orders had become so many bulwarks for the defense of the dogma. In 1497 the University of Paris decreed that henceforward no one should be admitted a member of the university, who did not swear that he would do the utmost to defend and assert the Immaculate Conception of Mary. Toulouse followed the example; in Italy, Bologna and Naples; in the German Empire, Cologne, Maine, and Vienna; in Belgium, Louvain; in England before the Reformation. Oxford and Cambridge; in Spain Salamanca, Toledo, Seville, and Valencia; in Portugal, Coimbra and Evora; in America, Mexico and Lima.

Since the time of Alexander VII, long before the final definition, there was no doubt on the part of theologians that the privilege was amongst the truths revealed by God. Wherefore Pius IX, surrounded by a splendid throng of cardinals and bishops, 8 December 1854, promulgated the dogma.
 
I’m not sure what you mean by classic principles.
The only “classic” principles that I can think of are the debates that came before. But they’re not really principles, they really were statements made by varioius theologians as part of the process of discernment that took almost 1800 years.

By the time it was declared a dogma the discernment process was complete and the formula was already in place.

I’m at a loss too as to what “classic” means in this context.

JR 🙂
 
So glad to see this spelled out. It is so frustrating and disappointing when even cradle Catholics confuse the Immaculate Conception with the Virgin Birth.
 
So glad to see this spelled out. It is so frustrating and disappointing when even cradle Catholics confuse the Immaculate Conception with the Virgin Birth.
The confusion is often due to the fact that Jesus was also immaculately confused.

But the dogma of the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Mary by her mother and father.

Glad this helped.

JR 🙂
 
The confusion is often due to the fact that Jesus was also immaculately confused.

But the dogma of the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Mary by her mother and father.

Glad this helped.

JR 🙂
JR, please tell me you did not mean this, ha ha ha ha
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
JR, please tell me you did not mean this, ha ha ha ha
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
:rotfl:

This is why you should never try to eat lunch, listen to something on TV and answer a post as the same time.

He may have been immaculately confused at times, but that’s not what I meant. I meant conceived. 😛

Thanks Deacon

JR 🙂
 
The confusion is often due to the fact that Jesus was also immaculately confused.

But the dogma of the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Mary by her mother and father.

Glad this helped.

JR 🙂
This is the funniest blooper I’ve seen in a long time. :rotfl:

I am often confused, but I’d say more “profoundly”.

You must have way too much on your mind. 🙂
 
The confusion is often due to the fact that Jesus was also immaculately confused.

But the dogma of the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Mary by her mother and father.

Glad this helped.

JR 🙂
Ha ha ha ha ha. Off topic but that reminds me of one time when my friend said “animal” instead of “ammunition” and laughed and said “oops Freudian swiss:rotfl:

Anyway…
 
That’s nothing. One year I had to type the songs for our Christmas liturgy, because I’m a fast typist, the job was dumped on me. I typed

"Hark the herald angels sin"

It went to print that way. Suddenly in the middle of Midnight Mass the Deacon let out the loudest laugh I had ever heard and realized my typo.

I wanted to crawl under the bench.

LOL

JR 🙂
 
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