OK, not convinced. How about this one…
Then it is their sin; not mine.
Yes, but than onus is still on the woman “presenting” herself and she is committing the sin by doing so (woe to her). I’m not arguing that.
I don’t think it works that way.
I would ask you to reconsider your taking on the position as the Gatekeeper to the Sacraments. I feel for priests who have that burden/obligation placed upon them. To seek it voluntarily seems to be almost suicidal, from a personal salvation point of view. You are responsible for turning away people from the Eucharist. Do not take that lightly.
Perhaps your *perception *of their rudness and mockery was generated by how you view the Church?
So you think Jesus was ok with you turning one of his children away? Maybe because of your action she’ll never return to mass.I serve as a usher at Mass. One morning a young woman came with an extremely low-cut. And she was rather, um, well-endowed to boot.
I asked her to leave because she was not appropriately dressed and she gave me some argument about “God doesn’t care how I dress.”
I said “No, God probably doesn’t care but we do.”
She left in a huff and went to complain to the priest who backed me up.
And that’s because you visited every Disciples of Christ Church there is known to man??
No, it was pretty unmistakable. But I appreciate your assumptions about how I view the catholic church. Regardless, my MIL came to the rescue, made me feel a lot better, and helped me out when I went to mass with her family the next week.
Nope. And I’m not saying that the catholic church is inferior. I’m just saying that in the future, I know of a church who’s stated mission is to bring everyone to Christ and walk together in unity.
If everybody who experienced a slight, real or imagined, by a member of the CC, did not return to mass because of this, then it suggests that the people in question are quite prideful, i.e., every Church has members that can be rude, but that’s not an excuse not to ever go to mass.
She is a regular member of our congregation; I doubt that she would never return.
No assumption on my part. You yourself said it was “intimidating”; that’s a perception.
No, but we saw you brag about it, complete with smiley faces. It doesn’t even seem that you see this as an unfortunate situation. It seems you’re proud of what happened and enjoyed being the final arbiter.
Are you kidding me? I walked into a religious service by myself that I knew nothing about. I think feeling intimidated was a perfectly human response that I don’t have to justify. Dare I say you would feel the same.
Quite right. I think there is a desperate need for catechesis and instruction. I think that people who come to Mass should do so with the understanding that it’s quite literally God’s house given the Real Presence of the Eucharist.
But that’s the mission of every Church, and everybody is a sinner as you full well know, but the Catholic Church does have guidelines about appropriate attire, unfortunately “many” people do not adhere to these rules, so it is in essence a lack of courtesy and respect to show up at Church with attire that negates these guidelines.
Personally I think the intimidation is kind of a good thing… provided that such a first impression later becomes “awesome” or “awe-inspiring.” That’s what, I hope anyway, Catholic churches should strive for. Something that reflects the amazing power and majesty of God. I mean, the Mass is really literally awesome since bread and wine become the actual Real Presence of the Son of God. Doesn’t get much crazier than that!
I’m sorry for that, i.e., that people made you cry, I just hope you realize there is rudeness everywhere even amongst those who should know better or think they know better.
So obviously the correct answer is to publicly single them out for the lack of decorum and tell them to go change.
