Cleric: Jews plant Gharqad trees to hide behind them

[MugenOne]

Another nonsense from the religion of pieces taken out from the 7th century antiquity. How do you, Muslims, defend this lunacy? Muhammad Al-Arifi: Studies conducted in Tel Aviv and in the Palestinian lands occupied by the Jews showed that they plant Gharqad trees around their homes, because the Prophet Muhammad said that when the Muslims fight the Jews, each and every stone and tree will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. The only exception is the Gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews, and if they hide behind it, it will not reveal their presence. According to reports of people who went there and saw it with their own eyes, many Jews plant Gharqad trees around their homes, so that when the fighting begins, they can hide behind them. They are not man enough to stand and fight you. memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1867.htm

 

[hamba2han]

This particular hadith can only come true when trees and stones start talking and telling Muslims that a Jew is hiding behind them.

Is there a reason then why a non-believing Jew should have anything to worry about?

But then again, if they have indeed planted Gharqad trees around their homes, then… (one needs to fill in the blank according to one’s own understanding of the situation).

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

… many Jews plant Gharqad trees around their homes, so that when the fighting begins, they can hide behind them

that means many Jews know Islam is the truth . That’s good . Hopefully before death approaches , they will offer sincere repentance to God & will accept His chosen religion.

You are a Christian . Don’t u believe Jesus (p) will kill anti Christs after his second coming ? Jews tried to kill your lord ,thus they are anti Christ . So , why Muslims belief is nonsense to u ?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

… if they have indeed planted Gharqad trees around their homes, then… (one needs to fill in the blank according to one’s own understanding of the situation).

many Jews know Islam is the truth

 

[dolphinlove]

Salaam/peace

many Jews know Islam is the truth

Then why are they still Jewish?

 

[ralphinal]

Salaam/peace

that means many Jews know Islam is the truth . That’s good . Hopefully before death approaches , they will offer sincere repentance to God & will accept His chosen religion.

You are a Christian . Don’t u believe Jesus (p) will kill anti Christs after his second coming ? Jews tried to kill your lord ,thus they are anti Christ . So , why Muslims belief is nonsense to u ?

Jesus will not cause the physical death of anyone with his second coming. Now, those who deny him will suffer spiritual death, but he will not slay anyone.

 

[hamba2han]

Jesus will not cause the physical death of anyone with his second coming. Now, those who deny him will suffer spiritual death, but he will not slay anyone.

And this is stated in your Bible??

 

[ralphinal]

And this is stated in your Bible??

Revelation shows that the Beast, the False Prophet, and Satan and his minions will be cast into the firey pit. It does not say that they shall be slain. No where does it EVER say that Jesus will kill anyone by his own hand.

Jesus came not to kill but to restore life.

 

[hamba2han]

Revelation shows that the Beast, the False Prophet, and Satan and his minions will be cast into the firey pit. It does not say that they shall be slain. No where does it EVER say that Jesus will kill anyone by his own hand.

Jesus came not to kill but to restore life.

"But those mine enemies, who would not that I should REIGN over them, bring them hither, and SLAY them before me" … Luke 19:27.

Would Christians care to explain whether they believe the person who said these words in the Bible to be ‘good’ or ‘evil’?

If you say that this person is good, then why did he give such an order to slay his enemies who refuse to accept his reign over them?

And if this person can order his followers to slay his enemies before him, then is there a logical reason why he would be averse to slaying his enemies with his own hands?

 

[ralphinal]

"But those mine enemies, who would not that I should REIGN over them, bring them hither, and SLAY them before me" … Luke 19:27.

Would Christians care to explain whether they believe the person who said these words in the Bible to be ‘good’ or ‘evil’?

If you say that this person is good, then why did he give such an order to slay his enemies who refuse to accept his reign over them?

And if this person can order his followers to slay his enemies before him, then is there a logical reason why he would be averse to slaying his enemies with his own hands?

Hamba, my friend, you are once again quoting a verse WAY out of context. That is the ending to a parable about a man who was made king and returned to his people, who hated him. SOme of his servents had been given gold, and some had used it wisely, others had not. That is the last line.

However, as with all parables, we must see if there is a spiritual meaning that supercedes the physical meaning. IN this case, there is. Obviously, the gold given to the servents is not literal gold. It represents the spiritual gifts that we are called to use. Can we say for certain that the enemies are not literal enemies but spiritual ones? No. Can we say that the death spoken of is not literal death but spiritual death? No. More than likely, the entire story represents a spiritual reality. Jesus will return, those who used their gifts wisely will be rewarded, those who did not will be punished, and those who worked against him will suffer the spiritual death.

Besides, if it is literal, as you so want it to be, where is the gold that Jesus left?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

… No where does it EVER say that Jesus will kill anyone by his own hand.
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a Christian in other forum told us Jesus (p) will use his tongue as sword to kill the anti Christ (p) .

 

[Booklover]

"But those mine enemies, who would not that I should REIGN over them, bring them hither, and SLAY them before me" … Luke 19:27.

Would Christians care to explain whether they believe the person who said these words in the Bible to be ‘good’ or ‘evil’?

If you say that this person is good, then why did he give such an order to slay his enemies who refuse to accept his reign over them?

And if this person can order his followers to slay his enemies before him, then is there a logical reason why he would be averse to slaying his enemies with his own hands?

How many times do we have to repeat that what you’e quoted is from a parable! You Muslims claim to be the real followers of Jesus and you have no clue to what neither he nor Christianity are all about. Why must you always think in terms killing?

Vickie

 

[bpbasilphx]

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You are a Christian . Don’t u believe Jesus (p) will kill anti Christs after his second coming ? Jews tried to kill your lord ,thus they are anti Christ . So , why Muslims belief is nonsense to u**

**I noticed how specific this Mahometan was about WHO saw these trees.

Mahometan belief is nonsense because it is based on a lie and spiritual delusion.

I confess there is NO GOD but Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and Jesus is God Incarnate risen from the dead.**

 

[Corki]

that means many Jews know Islam is the truth .

No, they don’t.

You are a Christian . Don’t u believe Jesus (p) will kill anti Christs after his second coming ? Jews tried to kill your lord ,thus they are anti Christ . So , why Muslims belief is nonsense to u ?

Yes, I am Christian
No, I don’t believe Jesus will kill anti-Christs, there is to be one anti-Christ
No, I don’t blame the Jews as a people for Killing Jesus and that has nothing to do with the anti-Christ
No, Jews are not anti-Christs, nor, even if you believe the book of Revalation to be prophetic would the anti-Christ be a Jew
Yes, this particular Muslim belief is nonsense (your word, not mine)

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Then why are they still Jewish?

Guidance come from God only . Many Christians also know the truth but still they deny to accept the truth. Here is one excellent story.

**The Amazing story of how the Arch Bishop who became Muslim, married a Nun **

…"I closed the door, looked him in the eye and asked him ‘of all religions in the world, which is true’, I asked.

‘Islam’, he responded.

‘Why then are you not a Muslim?’, I asked again.

He said to me "'One, I hate Arabs, and two, do you see all this luxuries that I have? Do you think that I would give it all up for Islam?’.

When I thought about his answer, I thought about my own situation, too", recalls Mwaipopo. His mission, his cars - all these appeared in his imagination. No, he could not embrace Islam…

themodernreligion.com/convert/convert_bishop.htm

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

… don’t blame the Jews as a people for Killing Jesus

huh…may be Christians will soon start thinking that Muslims killed thier lord

No, Jews are not anti-Christs,

who are the anti Christ (p) ?

Yes, this particular Muslim belief is nonsense (your word, not mine)

not my words

A Christian wrote : …Another nonsense from the religion of pieces ( ?? )

 

[Corki]

Just incase someone is shocked by the above story of an Archbishop leaving for Islam, I want to point out that the AB in question was Lutheran. Still sad, but not as scandalous to people reading in this forum as if it was a Catholic clergy person leaving the faith and marrying.

 

[Lev23]

Salaam/peace

that means many Jews know Islam is the truth . That’s good . Hopefully before death approaches , they will offer sincere repentance to God & will accept His chosen religion.

You are a Christian . Don’t u believe Jesus (p) will kill anti Christs after his second coming ? Jews tried to kill your lord ,thus they are anti Christ . So , why Muslims belief is nonsense to u ?

Actually, Jesus Christ will come back and rescue Israel when the nations are ready to destroy her for the final time. Islam today calls for this destruction of the Jewish people.

 

[hamba2han]

Parable or not (and I do not understand what moral difference this would make), the lesson to be learnt from this verse in the Bible is that this person who orders that his enemies be slain before him is ‘good’ in the eyes of his Lord, not evil.

And it is his Lord who had commanded him to be ruthless in slaying his enemies who reject his divine reign over them for he surely cannot be killing them out of personal malice.

Muslims readily understand that someone who is commanded by God to declare war on those who reject divine rule is not at all evil.

Christians, on the other hand, have a really hard time understanding this difference between being ‘good’ and ‘evil’ for someone who has been appointed by God to bring divine rule to the world.

 

[ralphinal]

Parable or not (and I do not understand what moral difference this would make), the lesson to be learnt from this verse in the Bible is that this person who orders that his enemies be slain before him is ‘good’ in the eyes of his Lord, not evil.

The point of a parable is to explain moral and spiritual issues in a way that can be grasped easily. They are NOT always meant to be literally understood. We are called to be merciful. MERCY! Killing enemies is not mercy. Forgiving is mercy. Many who are dead do not deserve to be dead, can you give them back their lives?

And it is his Lord who had commanded him to be ruthless in slaying his enemies who reject his divine reign over them for he surely cannot be killing them out of personal malice.

Physical death is nothing. Spiritual death is important. Jesus is not going to physically kill anyone, but he will see those who oppose him in Hell (spiritual death)

Muslims readily understand that someone who is commanded by God to declare war on those who reject divine rule is not at all evil.

Christians, on the other hand, have a really hard time understanding this difference between being ‘good’ and ‘evil’ for someone who has been appointed by God to bring divine rule to the world.

No, Christians understand that we are to forgive those who harm us and pray for our enemies. Why is it better to kill than to love? Is murder better than forgiveness? What you are saying here looks like Muslims advocate subjugation of those who are not Muslim and forced conversions.