Clerical garb

[TimOliv]

They don’t attend a seminary? Then they are not seminarians.

My bet is that they attend a seminary outside of your diocese as many dioceses do not have their own seminaries but use others.

Also, no such thing as a Novus Ordo seminarian or a Novus Ordo priest.

If they are in a minor seminary, it is more likely that they simply attend a local Catholic College for their Pre-Theology studies.

In the Diocese of Scranton, Seminarians (formerly) lived at St. Pius X Seminary in Dalton, but studied at the University of Scranton. So while they lived in a building called a seminary, there was no study there, they did all of their coursework at the University.

So, you are not necessarily correct in your assertation that “if one does not attend a seminary, they are not seminarians”

 

[Melanie01]

…so what does modern seminaries do…do they still tonsure, encandiate and confer minor orders and then onto major orders of sub deacon, deacon etc. I know that traditional seminaries confer the young man with cassock pretty early on ( the first year I think).

…there can be youngsters as minor seminarians who are schooled in with a strong Catholic orientation, in the hope of inspiring youngsters to consider the priesthood as a calling.

 

[Andreas_Hofer]

…so what does modern seminaries do…do they still tonsure, encandiate and confer minor orders and then onto major orders of sub deacon, deacon etc. I know that traditional seminaries confer the young man with cassock pretty early on ( the first year I think).

…there can be youngsters as minor seminarians who are schooled in with a strong Catholic orientation, in the hope of inspiring youngsters to consider the priesthood as a calling.

Unless one belongs to a traditionalist order permitted the use of the older books, the tonsure, minor orders, and subdiaconate no longer exist (although two former orders persist as ministries). Thus whereas it used to be true that basically all seminarians were, indeed, clerics, it is now that case that basically all seminarians are laymen because they don’t become clerics until diaconal ordination.

 

[justme]

If they are in a minor seminary, it is more likely that they simply attend a local Catholic College for their Pre-Theology studies.

In the Diocese of Scranton, Seminarians (formerly) lived at St. Pius X Seminary in Dalton, but studied at the University of Scranton. So while they lived in a building called a seminary, there was no study there, they did all of their coursework at the University.

So, you are not necessarily correct in your assertation that “if one does not attend a seminary, they are not seminarians”

Minor seminaries are not what I am speaking of as they are not requried by the Program for Priestly Formation nor are there any guidelines as to what kind of formation is to take place there.

A man may complete pre-theology on his own before ever talking to a vocations director.

When a secular priesthood candidate is working on his graduate studies he is enrolled in a seminary, even if the classes are taken at some other institution. There are mandated formation that occurs within the seminary.

…so what does modern seminaries do…do they still tonsure, encandiate and confer minor orders and then onto major orders of sub deacon, deacon etc. I know that traditional seminaries confer the young man with cassock pretty early on ( the first year I think).

Tonsure is not really for the secular priesthood candidate. I believe this is something that some religious orders continue to do.

Yes, they do enter into the minor orders of lector and acolyte. Subdeacon is no longer used within the Latin Church. The cassock can be worn when one enters the seminary, depending on the bishop and the school. For religious orders, the man is invested in the habit at the beginning of the novitiate.

 

[TimOliv]

Minor seminaries are not what I am speaking of as they are not requried by the Program for Priestly Formation nor are there any guidelines as to what kind of formation is to take place there.

A man may complete pre-theology on his own before ever talking to a vocations director.

When a secular priesthood candidate is working on his graduate studies he is enrolled in a seminary, even if the classes are taken at some other institution. There are mandated formation that occurs within the seminary.

Tonsure is not really for the secular priesthood candidate. I believe this is something that some religious orders continue to do.

Yes, they do enter into the minor orders of lector and acolyte. Subdeacon is no longer used within the Latin Church. The cassock can be worn when one enters the seminary, depending on the bishop and the school. For religious orders, the man is invested in the habit at the beginning of the novitiate.

I’m in the minor seminary (non-diocesan), and for our order, it IS required and CANNOT be completed on your own before you talk to a priest.

 

[Dr.Bombay]

They don’t attend a seminary? Then they are not seminarians.

My bet is that they attend a seminary outside of your diocese as many dioceses do not have their own seminaries but use others.

Also, no such thing as a Novus Ordo seminarian or a Novus Ordo priest.

Yeah. Our Novus Ordo seminarians do not attend a seminary. Makes me wonder if the powers that be intend these guys to become priests or just glorified lay ministers with fancy vestments.

Kinda odd, huh?

 

[mercygate]

Yeah. Our Novus Ordo seminarians do not attend a seminary. Makes me wonder if the powers that be intend these guys to become priests or just glorified lay ministers with fancy vestments.

Kinda odd, huh?

Could be a good thing if the local Catholic seminary is a place that is dangerous to the faith. I know a monastic priest who sends his priest candidates to seminary outside the diocese just for that reason.