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Theo520 said:
What I really distrust is how they ascribe huge values to people dying early because of particulates in the air from coal plants.

We are talking mostly elderly with lung infections in hospitals and assisted living situations. These places should already have HEPA filters that address this fictitious silent killer.

I speculate the same analysis could equally show a cost savings since early deaths reduce expenditures.

I think my dark humor is acceptable in light of the US having generally very clean air. Our problem areas are caused by local geography and auto exhausts, not power generators.
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http://ethw.org/Generators

Central generation of electricity started around 1890 and has been getting cleaner and of higher quality ever since.

Although recent interest in wind generators and solar generators have caused a diminution of quality and a huge increase in cost.
 
Really excellent.

Love the comments.

Here is one of the comments:

March 14, 2018 at 11:41 pm
Good idea, GO’D. It would also appear a handful of international banking families who’ve specialized (through descendants) over the centuries in providing high volume/high interest financing—even in orchestrating an event itself—to both sides during major revolutions and wars, then holding their coats while the combatants went at it while simultaneously selling war material to both from manufacturing industries they either owned or controlled financially during the war/revolution.

Of the major conflicts you mention, the Bolshevik “revolution” has to rank close to the top for resulting deaths. Swedish writer Juri Lina has compiled one of the most extensive, heavily footnoted volumes about this revolution from the archives opened thus far in Russia. He puts the number of deaths caused by Zionist communists somewhere north of 60 million circa 1917-1950

Book: UNDER THE SIGN OF THE SCORPION (Jüri Lina, Updated, 3rd edition)

https://www.amazon.com/Under-Sign-S...rd_wg=GekFF&psc=1&refRID=B0VFVSHM90WZXTFV0CE8

Documentary taken from the book: IN THE SHADOWN OF HERMES Jüri Lina (2009)

Nobel winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, arguably Russia’s greatest writer and chronicler of the Russian tragedy, finished two volumes about these same killers more than a decade ago before he died.

Both are blocked from English translation except for “select” chapters.

200 YEARS TOGETHER

 
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Ender:
This reinforces the WSJ article I just posted that sees doomsday scenarios as just so much science fiction. Inconvenient data indeed.
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What I really distrust is how they ascribe huge values to people dying early because of particulates in the air from coal plants.

We are talking mostly elderly with lung infections in hospitals and assisted living situations. These places should already have HEPA filters that address this fictitious silent killer.
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A first-world solution only. The vast majority of the world’s people do not have the means to live in a HEPA-filtered long-term care facility and are forced to breathe the air that God gives them and all of us, over which we are supposed to be stewards.
I speculate the same analysis could equally show a cost savings since early deaths reduce expenditures.

I think my dark humor is acceptable in light of the US having generally very clean air. Our problem areas are caused by local geography and auto exhausts, not power generators.
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Except that air pollution does not stay local. And even in the US, not everyone can afford to spend their days in HEPA-filtered long-term care facilities.
 
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LeafByNiggle said:
A first-world solution only. The vast majority of the world’s people do not have the means to live in a HEPA-filtered long-term care facility and are forced to breathe the air that God gives them and all of us, over which we are supposed to be stewards.
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And what part of this problem is getting worse???
 
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LeafByNiggle:
A first-world solution only. The vast majority of the world’s people do not have the means to live in a HEPA-filtered long-term care facility and are forced to breathe the air that God gives them and all of us, over which we are supposed to be stewards.
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And what part of this problem is getting worse???
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I was only commenting on Theo’s proposed solution - not on the issue of the trend of climate-related deaths.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
A first-world solution only. The vast majority of the world’s people do not have the means to live in a HEPA-filtered long-term care facility and are forced to breathe the air that God gives them and all of us, over which we are supposed to be stewards.
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I’m all for China improving their emission standards and cleaning up their air, but you do that by engaging China not by making sane US emission standards insane.

The US does have effective standards, measured at the sources, which means it only dissipates as it travels. Getting other countries to approach our standards would be fantastic and increase our competitive position in industries like Steel/AL production, cement, etc.
 
Theo520 said:
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LeafByNiggle:
A first-world solution only. The vast majority of the world’s people do not have the means to live in a HEPA-filtered long-term care facility and are forced to breathe the air that God gives them and all of us, over which we are supposed to be stewards.
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I’m all for China improving their emission standards and cleaning up their air, but you do that by engaging China not by making sane US emission standards insane.

The US does have effective standards, measured at the sources, which means it only dissipates as it travels. Getting other countries to approach our standards would be fantastic and increase our competitive position in industries like Steel/AL production, cement, etc.
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This, of course, is a different solution from the one I was commenting on.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
This, of course, is a different solution from the one I was commenting on.
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I looked into the analysis one time (for at least one such report) and a significant number of the premature deaths were from the developing and 3rd world, with indoor open hearth cooking being attributed as the major contributor of ‘consumed’ particulates causing premature death and health issues.

The parateo fix to the issue is to replace 3rd world open hearth cooking with simple stoves that can be made DIY with clay, brick, or steel. The reports tend to bury that this is a 3rd world challenge and portray it as a global issue. Obviously we can and should help with the solution, but it’s not related to 1st world pollution standards.

www.pbs.org

5 cookstoves used around the world

The key to designing a safe and efficient cookstove – that people actually will want to use – is to look at what they like to eat, advocates have discovered.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org
 
MonteRCMS said:
WSJ requires a subscription … HOWEVER somehow Real Clear Politics provides access.

[The article is funny.]
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This excerpt shows the extreme fallacy of such research, stuff we paid good money for them to model. It must be true if the model says it.
The result is a projection that a hot day will kill massive numbers in Northern cities by 2100—though such temperatures are already routine at lower latitudes with no such ill effects. Pittsburgh’s extreme-temperature mortality rate is supposed to be 75 times as high in 2100 as that of Phoenix in 2000, though Pittsburgh will not be as hot then as Phoenix was a century earlier.
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This paper makes two points worth considering:
1 - Sea level is not rising
2 - Yet again the raw data is being altered to fit the narrative rather than the facts.

Re 1:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/sea_level_not_rising.pdf

Re 2:
Above all, as this revealing paper shows, the Professor has heard the keepers of the global satellite altimetry record of sea-level rise admitting – nay, proclaiming – that they had tilted the sea-level record for the entire satellite era to make it show a rate of increase, for the raw data from the satellites show no sea-level rise at all.
 
Stunning development.

By the way, it’s supposed to be raining heavily around the areas in California where they had those terrible wild fires. So, they didn’t clean out the brush. And now they will have terrible mud slides.
 
As the Eastern US, all of Europe and even North Africa suffer in bitter and prolonged cold, now we get this:

wattsupwiththat.com

BOOM! Federal Judge Dismisses Claim Of "Big-Oil" Conspiracy To Suppress Global Warming Science

In a rare event, sanity prevails in California – Climate skeptics rule, alarmists drool. A federal judge overseeing a lawsuit dismissed a core section plaintiffs brought in the case — oil com…
wattsupwiththat.com wattsupwiththat.com

What’s it going to take for the warming alarmists to pack up their lies and go home?
 
MonteRCMS said:
What’s it going to take for the warming alarmists to pack up their lies and go home?
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I found this whole legal challenge to be a charade. Something I could expect from certain environmental groups but not several State AG offices. The whole case is so weak it’s embarassing.
 
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