Climax rules & the transmission of new life

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The church says that the man’s orgasm is only permitted inside of the woman in order to transmit new life… So what is the purpose of a woman’s orgasm?

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Not sure entirely how to answer it. Certainly it is pleasurable and acts an encouragement to pursue the marital act. It also helps with conception by the positioning of the cervix when it happens. The hormones released contribute to the bonding effect and affection toward the spouse.

Is that what you looking for?
 
Big picture, slightly tongue-in-cheek:

Would a woman allow such an act on more than one or so occasions if it were not pleasurable and could result in 9 months of pregnancy, ending in a not-too-pleasant (physically speaking) occurance?

Perhaps, to please her husband on a couple of occasions, but to be a mutually beneficial activity, it has to be worthwhile and “balanced”. 😉
 
I guess a guy who has extreme stomach pains could ask the same. “Why does she get a beautiful child from her pain and I just get gas?” We are made man and woman and regardless of whatever some may think, we are two different creations with two different roles. This is God’s plan for procreation and we should look at the pleasure as a gift of the gift…teachccd 🙂
 
TLM08,
I don’t know about “purpose,” but reproductively, the **effect **of a female climax is to speed the sperm into the tubes and begin their hopeful journey. 😉
 
To be fussy, a man can have an orgasm outside of the woman and it isn’t sinful. Accidents happen you know, and there are those pesky wet dreams. Sometimes you just gotta take into account intent.

The intent of sex, and all that goes with it, is the unity of the couple and continuation of the species. Sex has gotten pretty beat up by humans, with our rituals and taboos.

Our Catholic Church is actually pretty good about sex. It preaches responsibility and putting sex in a relationship with love and commitment (Marriage).

But, since inquiring minds always have questions, and this isn’t a new development in the Church, the Church has always felt the need to answer questions when asked by its members. Because of this rather uncomfortable tendency, the Church gets into situations where there is no right answer. Either way, somebody is gonna be mad.

Case in point, the current situation with homosexuality. Church doesn’t approve of homosexuality. Gays are making a big deal out of that because they feel they can love God and be good Catholics just like anybody else. As someone very much aware of my own sins and my desire to be in the Church I think gay folks do belong in our Church, just like any other sinners. But, I hope you can see where difficulties arise when gays are rejected, or feel rejected by the Church.

So, consider that by not writing down everything the Church may being smart.

I think the big deal about spilling seed came out of the Old Testament and refers to a custom that isn’t acceptable today. For those of you that don’t know the story, it concerns a brothers obligation to get the widow of his brother pregnant and a brother that was having a little too much fun in the process. Gosh, if that custom never happened, and a brother having sex with his brothers widow was just sinful, like it is today, one has to wonder where would we be?

A woman’s orgasm, I suspect, is God’s way of making sex attractive so people will have sex and babies will be made. Who knows, maybe the first batch of women didn’t have orgasms and the race died out.
 
Case in point, the current situation with homosexuality. Church doesn’t approve of homosexuality. Gays are making a big deal out of that because they feel they can love God and be good Catholics just like anybody else. As someone very much aware of my own sins and my desire to be in the Church I think gay folks do belong in our Church, just like any other sinners. But, I hope you can see where difficulties arise when gays are rejected, or feel rejected by the Church.
This is an inaccurate assertion.
**The Church doesn’t condemn homosexuals. It condemns the disordered homosexual act. **

**Homosexuals are not rejected by the Church - their homosexual acts (if they choose to to commit them) are. It is the same for heterosexuals. The heterosexual act - outside of marriage - IS condemned - not the heterosexuals themselves.
 
I didn’t use the word act at all. Does the Church approve of homosexuality now?

Actually, the Church does not condemn anybody. But that is another word you brought up, not me.

How come you don’t like my post and then use a bunch of words in telling me how wrong I was that I didn’t use?

That is like me chewing you out for you saying adultery is ok. Notice adultery was never in your post?
 
Case in point, the current situation with homosexuality. Church doesn’t approve of homosexuality. Gays are making a big deal out of that because they feel they can love God and be good Catholics just like anybody else. As someone very much aware of my own sins and my desire to be in the Church I think gay folks do belong in our Church, just like any other sinners. But, I hope you can see where difficulties arise when gays are rejected, or feel rejected by the Church.

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gays feel rejected by the Church because the Church will not let them live in sin…
and by the same token unwed (or even remarried) hetro couples can feel rejected by the Church for the same reason…
 
I didn’t use the word act at all. Does the Church approve of homosexuality now?

Actually, the Church does not condemn anybody. But that is another word you brought up, not me.

How come you don’t like my post and then use a bunch of words in telling me how wrong I was that I didn’t use?

That is like me chewing you out for you saying adultery is ok. Notice adultery was neve r in your post?
HUH??🤷
Your assertion was that the Church doesn’t feel that homosexuals “belong” in the Church - which is hogwash.
I merely pointed out to you that it was the homosexual act that is condemned - not the homosexual.

I went on to condemn adultery as well - guess you missed that. I suggest you re-read my post.
 
Ok, you do say adultery is not accepted. If you read my post I say the Church doesn’t approve of homosexuality. I don’t make any comments about homosexuals, as people, being rejected by the Church. Just that the homosexual lifestyle, or sexuality, is rejected.

The reason I bring this up is this. In Tucson there is a ministry in the Church for gays. This ministry had arranged for a speaker to come and talk to the gay community about something, probably being Catholic and gay, but I don’t know the exact details.

What I do remember is the local Bishop decided the speaker did not meet his idea of what should be taught concerning the subject and the speaker was not allowed to speak. This caused a stink in the local community.

The whole point to my post is that sometimes, no matter what the Church says, if it says anything, it is going to make a bunch of people upset. You might be one of the upset people, or one of the happy people. There is no way to tell. This points out the wisdom of saying nothing.
 
Ok, you do say adultery is not accepted. If you read my post I say the Church doesn’t approve of homosexuality. I don’t make any comments about homosexuals, as people, being rejected by the Church. Just that the homosexual lifestyle, or sexuality, is rejected.

The reason I bring this up is this. In Tucson there is a ministry in the Church for gays. This ministry had arranged for a speaker to come and talk to the gay community about something, probably being Catholic and gay, but I don’t know the exact details.

What I do remember is the local Bishop decided the speaker did not meet his idea of what should be taught concerning the subject and the speaker was not allowed to speak. This caused a stink in the local community.

The whole point to my post is that sometimes, no matter what the Church says, if it says anything, it is going to make a bunch of people upset. You might be one of the upset people, or one of the happy people. There is no way to tell. This points out the wisdom of saying nothing.
Larry, no offense but I’m having a really difficult time deciphering your argument because of poor sentence structure.**

I gather that we are on the same wavelength - as long as you understand that it is the practice of homosexuality and not the homosexual that the Church doesn’t accept. If somebody feels rejected because of that, then they are confused about the nature of sin and the purpose of the Church.
 
The church says that the man’s orgasm is only permitted inside of the woman in order to transmit new life… So what is the purpose of a woman’s orgasm?

:confused: :confused: :confused:
I think the purpose of woman’s orgasm is bonding in a most profound manner. I think it should logically occur when she feels the love of her husband fill her whole being in a deepest and most real way… So God who want us to be one, would certainly think of something like that. I can imagine that it is a moment she feels really ONE with her husband.

However, today’s culture which seeks pleasure for itself have perverted things. We have become blinded specially because what is central is not love but pleasure. So orgasm can serve other purposes depending on individuals, but I think it actually goes back to bonding. Perhaps when it is desordered it serves for bonding with whatever is causing stimulation…

Since orgasm touches our deepest self, perhaps it is a way for us (male or female) to evaluate what is really our real love? that which we are bonded to in our deepest being.

God bless
 
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