(CNN Report) "Why vaccinate our most frail? Odd vote out shows the dilemma"

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Why vaccinate our most frail? Odd vote out shows the dilemma​

…“One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes.”…

 
We definitely need to vaccinate residents of long-term-care facilities!

These are our parents and grandparents! Although there are some who say that each family should care for its own loved ones–that’s just not possible!

First, many families are very small, as our parents only had 2.5 children! Not enough!

And often, the children live all over the country, usually because of jobs. It’s not possible to just “move back home” again because bills must be paid.

The children, especially when they are becoming elderly themselves (if parents are in their 80s, their children are likely in their 60s or close to it), are not necessarily qualified, skilled, or capable of providing care to elderly parents and grandparents. Changing an adult diaper is not easy!

My husband is in the ICU right now after 11 days in the hospital because of COVID–and in all likelihood, he caught it helping to care for his elderly parents. The last year has been incredibly stressful for us as his parents have resisted entering a residence (I don’t blame them) and also resisted bringing in professional caregivers (I DO blame them for that!). Eventually my sister-in-law took matters into her own hands and hired part-time caregivers, which definitely helped my husband and sister-in-law who were providing all that care, including intimate care.

But it came too late for my husband, who was exhausted and stressed to the point where, when confronted with COVID, he has been unable to mount a defense against it–the stress of working a full-time job AND working after work to care for his parents took a terrible toll on his immune system and left him with little defense against a wicked virus.

As for me, I helped him by doing grocery shopping and cooking for his parents, and helping serve the meals to them–but I was not involved in intimate care, or dealing with their very complicated finances, or arranging their yard work (or just doing it), or dealing with my mother-in-law’s advancing Alzheimers. That’s just a few of the demands on my husband–he was used to taking around a dozen phone calls a day from his father, who just couldn’t seem to understand that my husband, at age 62, is still working FULL TIME!

I’m sure many families are dealing with the same thing we were faced with. I just hope and pray my husband will rally and be able to come back from the brink of death. It’s a high price to pay for trying to help his parents.
 
I think the title of the article makes the dissenting vote sound worse than it was. The doctor had concerns about how the vaccine would work with elderly patients, and about the effect when some who receive the vaccine die, which bound to happen given that these are very old people.
Talbot was worried about whether the vaccine would even work in such frail, vulnerable patients. Even more, she worried about how it might look if the vaccine failed in that group, or how it would affect public perception if residents died soon after getting the vaccine.
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I think her concern about public perception could be allayed with education. I can only imagine how newsrooms will be stymied for an angle or spin when a elderly person dies soon after receiving the vaccine.
 
Annie said:
I think her concern about public perception could be allayed with education. I can only imagine how newsrooms will be stymied for an angle or spin when a elderly person dies soon after receiving the vaccine.
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That would make the CDC recommendation vote look like they did think this thru.
 
At this point, I can only believe the media wants us all to be constantly in an uproar about one thing or another, whichever thing they choose, so that we will keep tuning in.
 
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Annie said:
At this point, I can only believe the media wants us all to be constantly in an uproar about one thing or another, whichever thing they choose, so that we will keep tuning in.
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I think there is more than a little bit of truth here. BLM…Antifa…Biden… Election Fraud…Trump…Proud Boys…Bigfoot…Loch Ness Monster. They all generate advertising dollars for media outlets, and they’re going to keep feeding us this nonsense as long as we buy it.
 
Dear Lord, help the helpers. Give them faith, strength, peace, hope and love! Hold them in your arms and please send us an end to this covid scourge! Amen!
 
The MSM will spin this as a failure for Trump …warp speed was dangerous the rush is killing our most vulnerable …it’s all because Trump didn’t listen to the science …

Then when it’s successful with the next population it will be because Biden is brilliant and cares about the people and dogs live in the WH again.

And all those people who said the numbers of Covid deaths was inflated will still be ignored because it never mattered that a hospice patient with multiple underlying serious health issues already determined to have to have a limited life expectancy and was in their 90s … well they died due to COVID and it’s all Trump’s fault…and that’s all that mattered.
 
That article is a week old so in todays climate… redundant. The UK has been vaccinating the elderly now for 3 days and so far so good. The problem for the US will be whether enough people will get the vaccine for there to be effective herd immunity.
 
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Bigfoot…Loch Ness Monster. They all generate advertising dollars for media outlets, and they’re going to keep feeding us this nonsense as long as we buy it.
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Wait–Bigfoot? Loch Ness Monster–nonsense?! NO! Say it isn’t so!

I think there’s something–not sure if it’s a creature or not. Something is out there.

In the town of Perry, New York state a hotel owner (decades ago) made a fake “sea monster” and put it in the river in their town to attempt to bring tourists back (to his hotel)–his plan worked! Lots of people came to spot the sea monster.

Eventually the hotel owner moved away from the town and the sea monster stopped appearing. Then his old hotel burned down–and in one of the closets in his quarters, the town discovered the obvious remains of the mechanical sea monster that he had made!

To this day, the town of Perry, New York, still celebrates their Sea Monster with festivals!

We have a river in our city–I wish someone would make a sea monster. My brother claims that his older welder friends who’ve worked on the bridges under the water tell him that there are catfish big enough to swallow a man–I believe it. A lot of “food” in that river–yecch!
 
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The problem for the US will be whether enough people will get the vaccine for there to be effective herd immunity.
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The problem for all (including the US) are the long term implications of being vaccinated by a company that obtained indemnity as a condition of production of a hurriedly concocted medication.
 
IanM said:
The problem for all (including the US) are the long term implications of being vaccinated by a company that obtained indemnity as a condition of production of a hurriedly concocted medication.
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That should the majority.
 
IanM said:
The problem for all (including the US) are the long term implications of being vaccinated by a company that obtained indemnity as a condition of production of a hurriedly concocted medication.
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Frankly, I worry about this every time someone sticks a needle in my arm and injects some mysterious substance. Every time it requires a huge leap of faith. The fact that the Covid vaccine was developed so quickly and in such a contentiously political atmosphere is especially worrisome. I’m glad I won’t be first in line to receive it.
 
IanM said:
…“One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes.”…
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Like 5 years ago when people died frequently in nursing homes?
 
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