CNN to air God's Warriors beginning tomorrow

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If I base my prediction about tonight’s program on last night’s segment, there should only be two moderate Moslems represented in God’s Warriors: Islam. We shall see if she weights the program heavily with the so called moderates so as to temper what is clearly a global concern about what this religion actually teaches.

Since the Jews defending their land (but not flying planes into buildings) were portrayed as radicals, it will be interesting (read: frustrating) to see how she “explains” Muslim extremism as anything other than what it is: a dangerous product of a dubious “religion”.
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That’s it: not only wrong, but unavoidably self-contradictory in approach, which is in part the problem with her free fantasizing of any believer being God’s warrior. Come to think of it: that’s her problem, with belief itself, as it is with the new professional atheists. Belief itself.

But what with expensive production values, neat and ever-new hairstyles from location to location, and SPEAKING VERY LOUDLY TO PORTENTOUS AND LOUD MUSIC she has not gotten around to the self-criticism a half-assed (I’m referring of course to the animal) job of editing would easily reveal. She must get final cut.
 
Last chance to raise your bloodpressure: tonight’s target: Christianity.

God bless.
 
I have watched most of the first two nights and have found the material to be pretty close to what is happening. A few radicals take it upon themselves to try to define the entire religion. The motivational tricks are the same regardless of the religion and of course religion is just a front in all three of the ones presented to cover for geopolitics, which mean money and power.
 
From looking at the previews of tonights show, it looks like CNN will be focusing mostly on protestantism. Most Likely because the evangelical community is so involved in the Middle East, by supporting Israel, at every turn.
 
Palladio said:
Last chance to raise your bloodpressure: tonight’s target: Christianity.

God bless.
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Apparently Catholics are not warriors for God. Apparently, if one watches CNN, Catholics are just a bunch of freaks who want to withdrawl from society into their own little town (Anderson Cooper’s special on Ave Maria Town which followed God’s Warriors).

I don’t know whether to be happy or sad that Catholics were not mentioned once in the special. I suppose I am happy because Ammanpour, as expected, catagorizes all Christians who wish to hold some political sway as extremists. I kept screaming the same rejoinder at the TV until finally one of the Christian preachers said that “we are aren’t the ones imposing our religion on the culture: This WAS a Judeo-Christian country for over 200 years until they started changing things on us. We were here first!”

Wish I could remember who it was that said that. I’d send him an email of gratitude.

Favortie part:
CA questioning Ron Luce about why the women at his school must wear their skirts a certain length. After his response, she tells him it sounds just like the Taliban with their women in Burka’s. CA doesn’t realize that these women CHOOSE to go to his school and CHOOSE to wear their skirts that length. Agh…

My summation? I expected much worse. Or maybe I’ve just learned what to expect from CNN and can no longer be disappointed.

It did make me sad to realize that Catholics are so unimpressive as a mobilized force that we didn’t even warrant a mention in CA’s dopey program. I couldn’t help but think about how cool it would have been to see Fr. Corapi at one of his conferences, whipping the usually tepid faithful into a frenzy. This is one of those times when I wish certain clergymen didn’t take their vow of humility so seriously.
 
I just finished viewing the third and last part of CNN’s “God’s Warriors” hosted by Christiane Amanpour, who in my opinion is an outstanding and intelligent journalist. My only problem, especially with the Christian segment, is that no Roman Catholic or Orthodox clergy and followers were ever mentioned–no interviews, demonstrations, rallies, marches, lobbyists, etc. One would think it is only Christian Fundamentalists and Evangelicals who are interested in promoting Christian values in society and are burning with love and devotion for Jesus Christ. It seems that the media only mentions the Catholic Church when doing a story on pedophile priests or a diocese paying out millions to victims of priest sexual abuse. Of course, we did get some positive press when Pope John Paul II died. Pope Benedict XVI got mentioned when the Muslims were angered by his reference to the Prophet.

Maybe it’s just because I know nothing about journalistic method when putting together such a comprehensive report as “God’s Warriors,” so I missed why there was no need to present Roman Catholic “warriors.” Is it possible that Catholics were not mentioned because we Catholics simply do not get involved in social issues in large enough numbers to be considered “warriors” for Christ. Perhaps I’m being too sensitive.

Again, I esteem and enjoy Christiane’s reports. I understand that she is a Christian, and since she attended a pretigious Catholic girls’ school, she may even be Catholic herself. I just wish the media could speak more about our positive contributions to society and the Kingdom rather than only priest and bishop sex scandals, as if that is all Catholics do that is newsworthy. Or again, maybe we Catholics really are too uninvolved when it comes to openly spreading the Kingdom of Christ. Just wondering.
 
Other favorite part:

“The religious right plays the victim”. CA
 
seeker44 said:
I just finished viewing the third and last part of CNN’s “God’s Warriors” hosted by Christiane Amanpour, who in my opinion is an outstanding and intelligent journalist. My only problem, especially with the Christian segment, is that no Roman Catholic or Orthodox clergy and followers were ever mentioned–no interviews, demonstrations, rallies, marches, lobbyists, etc. One would think it is only Christian Fundamentalists and Evangelicals who are interested in promoting Christian values in society and are burning with love and devotion for Jesus Christ. It seems that the media only mentions the Catholic Church when doing a story on pedophile priests or a diocese paying out millions to victims of priest sexual abuse. Of course, we did get some positive press when Pope John Paul II died. Pope Benedict XVI got mentioned when the Muslims were angered by his reference to the Prophet.

Maybe it’s just because I know nothing about journalistic method when putting together such a comprehensive report as “God’s Warriors,” so I missed why there was no need to present Roman Catholic “warriors.” Is it possible that Catholics were not mentioned because we Catholics simply do not get involved in social issues in large enough numbers to be considered “warriors” for Christ. Perhaps I’m being too sensitive.

Again, I esteem and enjoy Christiane’s reports. I understand that she is a Christian, and since she attended a pretigious Catholic girls’ school, she may even be Catholic herself. I just wish the media could speak more about our positive contributions to society and the Kingdom rather than only priest and bishop sex scandals, as if that is all Catholics do that is newsworthy. Or again, maybe we Catholics really are too uninvolved when it comes to openly spreading the Kingdom of Christ. Just wondering.
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As a self-described CNN watchdog, I can tell you that they rarely have a good orthodox Catholic on any of their programs about religion UNLESS it casts Catholics in a “bad” light. You are dead on in your observations. Yes, the death of our beloved Pope JPII was covered by CNN only because if they hadn’t, they would have been the ONLY news organization to miss out on all those ratings!

However, I will say that the focus on these three programs seems to be “extremism”, however CNN and other MSM defines that. Their target is fundamentalists of every religious stripe. In that regard, I suppose we should be relieved that we were not included since the mere name evokes such hostility.

I disagree with your assessment of CA. I thought her “Footsteps of Bin Laden” was colored by some sort of bizarre false compassion. In this program, all her questions are framed from the position that there is something wrong with the folks who are out there witnessing for their faith. I find that supremely ironic in light of the fact that she herself cites the stat that 53% of Americans believe in Creationism. Wouldn’t that make the majority of Americans believers? Why does she continue to refer to the Christians as “them”?
 
blessedtoo said:
I don’t know whether to be happy or sad that Catholics were not mentioned once in the special.
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Oh, Catholics got a mention at least – when discussing the origins of the Moral Majority as an organization that transcended denomination. For whatever that’s worth 😉

Anyway, I watched it from Falwell through Hagee (didn’t manage to catch the episodes on Judaism and Islam, unfortunately). What I saw was depressing – very, very depressing.

The Falwell segment was quite gracefully handled, no easy feat considering it questions the deepest motives of a man who is still the recently late, lamented idol of so many. Still, it scared me: a university and a law school devoted to destroying not only the separation of religion and government but also the very message of Jesus to let government concern itself with governance, and for the religious to concern themselves with better things?

The second segment: God bless you, Jimmy Carter. That’s all.

On John Hagee: the man is sickening. I didn’t realize just how much so until I found myself admiringly watching somebody else rouse a crowd in a quick cut. John Hagee, you made me think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was a scruffily charismatic but otherwise normal guy. I hope you’re happy about making me want to pinch the cute widdle cheeks of the mad president of Iran. I also have to wonder if the entryway to Hagee’s megachurch looks like a low-rent plastic St Peter’s on purpose.
 
I watched about the first 10 min I remember seeing a old pic of people with signs saying Jesus is Lord etc and there was no commentary just ominous music.

Refering constantly to warriors, things in battle, starting off with Falwell and trying to show them as taking over politically we turned it off and went for supper.

Just be happy she didnt mention Catholics or actually dont be if the Avia Maria town was on she probably couldnt mention it because it would cramp the next show. People dont have the stereotype of Catholics being radical so they couldnt pull it off.

Dont worry if the Avia Maria town doesnt do it there will be a scandal dragged up or some other thing, you wont be left out :rolleyes:

Realise its all a agenda to make God not us Catholic or Protestant look bad. Make God look bad, make us ALL look bad by showing the fundys being radical with no brains, the catholics following the pope with no brains. etc on and on

Surely this is something we ALL share, the world really doesnt like us much, and they could give too hoots what church we attend and less for the usless God we serve like idiots.

And we fight amoung ourselves to the worlds total delight. 😦
 
Mirdath said:
The Falwell segment was quite gracefully handled, no easy feat considering it questions the deepest motives of a man who is still the recently late, lamented idol of so many. Still, it scared me: a university and a law school devoted to destroying not only the separation of religion and government but also the very message of Jesus to let government concern itself with governance, and for the religious to concern themselves with better things?.
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Graceful ? sorry but Im not a fan of the guy but hes certainly not the evil thing he was made out to be, no more than the catholic is the evil thing made out to be.

The separation of religion and government was mentioned because those words get a rise out of people. Thems fighting words, that makes it seem like they are no better that those who flew planes. It was propanganda pure and simple. From the ominous music to the constant referral of things to the theme.

She even said to Jerry oh you battle or whatever it was and put her hands up like a fighter, so she could use the footage for her theme.

Propanganda, all to sell tv commercials was all it was. To inflame and make followers of Christ look bad. Then we get superior to each other and fight, Lord help us all.
 
Flat footed, heavy handed, dim witted, and melodramatic.

If a Martian came to earth to handle the subject he’d have a better chance at intelligent distinctions between the faiths and what they set out to achieve. But Amanpour created a useless category in the very title: like an adolescent writer, she could never let go of what it meant to her even as she responded to it as free fantasy.

She went on a fool’s errand of her own making. If everybody is God’s warrior, nobody is: the '67 war, the intifadah, Liberty University: it’s all the same to Amanpour.

As it is to the left, to the new professional atheists, to the media, who fear any threat to their moral relativism and multi-culturalism.
 
Amanpour is not Christian. She may have been at one time, but she clearly has worshipped at the altar of secularism for quite some time now, and this is clearly evident in her past reporting. The moral equivalency is a ridiculous attempt at deception. The whole of devout Christians and pro-life advocates were painted with a broad brush by the examples of a a few misguided extremists who killed abortion doctors. Acts that were very vocally condemned by the pro-life movement. I suppose I am happy she didn’t drag Catholics through the mud by name (with this presentation at least), but I can understand that my Protestant brothers and sisters may be very irritated by Amanpour’s treatment last night - and rightfully so.

The real kicker is the fact that she won’t face the barbarity in her own utopian ideal of secularism. Why was there not a fourth part devoted to those who believe in NO religion? A special on the secular/socialist/communist warriors? That hits a little too close to home for Amanpour. The most vicious butchers in history had no use for God, other than occasionally a tool for political ascension. The most hideous butchers in history scoffed at God - Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pot - and they each killed millions of people. Why isn’t there a part four about these secular butchers CNN?
 
Graing said:
Amanpour is not Christian. She may have been at one time, but she clearly has worshipped at the altar of secularism for quite some time now, and this is clearly evident in her past reporting. The moral equivalency is a ridiculous attempt at deception. The whole of devout Christians and pro-life advocates were painted with a broad brush by the examples of a a few misguided extremists who killed abortion doctors. Acts that were very vocally condemned by the pro-life movement. I suppose I am happy she didn’t drag Catholics through the mud by name (with this presentation at least), but I can understand that my Protestant brothers and sisters may be very irritated by Amanpour’s treatment last night - and rightfully so.

The real kicker is the fact that she won’t face the barbarity in her own utopian ideal of secularism. Why was there not a fourth part devoted to those who believe in NO religion? A special on the secular/socialist/communist warriors? That hits a little too close to home for Amanpour. The most vicious butchers in history had no use for God, other than occasionally a tool for political ascension. The most hideous butchers in history scoffed at God - Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pot - and they each killed millions of people. Why isn’t there a part four about these secular butchers CNN?
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Once you’ve given yourself, as Amanpour has, a license to say anything at all based on a nonsense category, God’s warriors, and one of her own making, all rational and historical debate is off: impass.

CNN has sunk so low that all criticism worthy of the name is simply beyond it, beyond its comprehension.

I’m back to not watching it.
 
Catholics not being mentioned at all really ticked me off, but the thing that upset me the most was the Jimmy Carter segment. The only person that was portrayed in a positive light was Jimmy Carter. They advertised his new Church as somthing all Churches should aspire for. His rules were to focus on more inclusive issues like battling poverty, rather than “controversial” topics like abortion, birth control, or women priests/preachers. That ideology is ridiculous, everything goes hand in hand, and you cant pick and choose what to support and what not to support. The Israel segment also got me very worried, This blind support has gotten its way into foreign policy. Believe it or not, Our government gets non-Catholic Bible prophecy “experts” to come in during meetings on foreign policy at the white house and give (name removed by moderator)ut on what they think the Bible says about future events in the middle east. The bad thing out of all this is that CNNs non-Christian viewers are going to see this and think that the rise in “radical” Chrisitanity in America will end up the same way as Islam in the middle east, the only thing that can come out of this God’s Warriors show is more anti-Christian views.
 
the whole premise of equating christian conservatives with radical muslims is insulting to christians, in my opinion. how is outlawing abortion equivalent to instituting sharia law?

the secularist point of view is that christianity in politics is some kind of recent phenomenon in american politics, instead of something that has formed our country’s conscience and identity from the very beginning. there was one white-haired pastor who got this point across very forcefully by saying with respect to the separation of church and state “you (the secularists) are on our territory here”.
 
tomarin said:
there was one white-haired pastor who got this point across very forcefully by saying with respect to the separation of church and state “you (the secularists) are on our territory here”.
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It was
Joseph Fuiten from Cedar Park Church in my home state! Gonna email him now!
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I thought the same thing! I was so thrilled to see someone finally point this out. It’s so tiring to see Christians accused of trying to “impose” their blah, blah, blah on others. The truth is that this country operated under a code of moral law that was based in Judeo-Christian belief for over 200 years. It is the secularists that have tried to impose their “beliefs” (or lack thereof) on the majority in America. This preacher simply pointed out that “Christians were here first. It is the secularists who are the illegal aliens”.
 
After watching the segment on the Courts, and the possible effects the 2008 election can have on them, it looks like this election will be one of the most important in American history. And its one the pro-life movement cannot afford to lose, If a democrat gets in the white house and replaces 2 of the older justices, and brings in more left-wing justices Roe v. Wade may not be overturned for many years.
 
AaronsStaff said:
After watching the segment on the Courts, and the possible effects the 2008 election can have on them, it looks like this election will be one of the most important in American history. And its one the pro-life movement cannot afford to lose, If a democrat gets in the white house and replaces 2 of the older justices, and brings in more left-wing justices Roe v. Wade may not be overturned for many years.
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Yes. A very sobering thought. Listening to Falwell state that the recent partial birth abortion ruling was the culmination of 35 years of pro life work was encouraging BUT distressing. After so many years, this tiny budge in the courts which has given so many people hope, could be easily reversed with the election of a Democrat for President.
 
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