Co-operating With Other Religions

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Lavenderson said:
Please elaborate. Why not?
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He wants to wake up to worship Satan, and I want no part in bringing that about. But I do hope you don’t intend to follow up with a post saying that Muslims do, in fact, worship Satan.
 
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Maybe, though, instead of a Muslim, it was a Satanist …
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May I ask why?
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Because Muslims, as with Jews, believe in the God of Abraham and so are our brethren in faith, though imperfect in their understanding. They are worthy of respect as such. This is consistent Church teaching.

Satanism is an often deliberate mockery of not just some parts of the Abrahamic faith, but every bit of it.

As said above, you’re not going to make a good case either for Catholicism or for yourself as.a.model of charity by deliberately belittling the person’s obviously sincere desire.to please God. First meet them where they are, then you might get them.to walk with you.
 
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Salibi said:
He wants to wake up to worship Satan, and I want no part in bringing that about. But I do hope you don’t intend to follow up with a post saying that Muslims do, in fact, worship Satan.
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Denying Christ’s divinity and the concept of the Trinity means I don’t know who the Muslims worship.
Salibi said:
You do realize Jews and Muslims worship our God, right?
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Salibi said:
If you use the search function, you’d find dozens of threads on this very topic. I participated in one yesterday.
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I’m not ignorant of the arguments. I just don’t find them convincing in the least.
 
Have you ever heard of a quaint little invention called the Catechism of the Catholic Church?
 
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I am aware of that. Are you claiming that because the Jews do not accept the divinity of Yesuah they do not believe in - and do not worship - God?
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They certainly worship something, calling that something God is pushing it if Christ’s divinity is rejected.
 
Lavenderson said:
They certainly worship something, calling that something God is pushing it if Christ’s divinity is rejected.
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What is your opinion on Judaism then? To my knowledge, they believe Jesus is in Hell.
 
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Salibi said:
They’re not “arguments”. They’re Catholic doctrine.
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Paragraph 841: “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

You mean this? Yes, the Catechism states the Muslims are monotheistic. Doesn’t mean the same God. James 2:19 “You believe that there is one God. You do well. The devils also believe and tremble.”

Secondly, professing to hold the faith of Abraham doesn’t mean they worship the God of Abraham. The Jews in Jesus’ time also professed to be children of Abraham. John 8:39–44:

"They answered and said to him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you are the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. But as it is, you are seeking to kill me, one who has spoken the truth to you which I have heard from God. That is not what Abraham did. You are doing the works of your father. … If God were your Father, you would surely love me. For from God I came forth … The father from whom you are is the devil, and the desires of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning.”

Like I said, I’m not convinced.
 
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Lavenderson said:
They certainly worship something, calling that something God is pushing it if Christ’s divinity is rejected.
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That ‘something’ is the God of Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob. The God of Moses, of Yeshua; of every Jew and of every person who has ever lived. The Creator and Sustainer of all that exists. That ‘something’ is the One who taught the Jews - and this, of course, includes Yeshua - to pray, every day of their lives: ‘Hear, o Israel, the Lord thy God, the Lord is One’

Some ‘something’.

Shame on you.
 
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Lavenderson said:
professing to hold the faith of Abraham doesn’t mean they worship the God of Abraham.
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What does it mean then?

Please talk to your priest. You are massively misunderstanding Scripture. This is why the Catholic Church doesn’t allow laity to interpret Scripture.
 
Salibi said:
What does it mean then?

Please talk to your priest. You are massively misunderstanding Scripture. This is why the Catholic Church doesn’t allow laity to interpret Scripture.
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John 8:39-44 “They answered and said to him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you are the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. But as it is, you are seeking to kill me, one who has spoken the truth to you which I have heard from God. That is not what Abraham did. You are doing the works of your father. … If God were your Father, you would surely love me. For from God I came forth … The father from whom you are is the devil, and the desires of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning.”

I’ll just leave this little passage here.
 
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Please speak with your priest. You are misunderstanding Scripture

It’s good that you read and can quote the Bible, but take care to understand it in context and according to the correct interpretations of the Catholic Church.
 
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