Co-operation or not

[stephen161958]

I know somebody who’s daughter is living together with her boy-friend without mariage, They have a sexual relation together. Sometimes his daughter is staying for some days at her parents house. Would it be a co-operation in his daughters sin if her father drives his daughter back to her boy-friend???

 

[Ron_Conte]

I know somebody who’s daughter is living together with her boy-friend without mariage, They have a sexual relation together. Sometimes his daughter is staying for some days at her parents house. Would it be a co-operation in his daughters sin if her father drives his daughter back to her boy-friend???

In general, this kind of distant cooperation with the sin of another is not sinful. This would fall under mediate material cooperation:
ascensionhealth.org/ethics/public/key_principles/cooperation.asp

His act of driving her to her boyfriend is not a sin in itself. His driving is not essential to the commission of her sin. His act is in itself good: it may be safer for him to take her than for her to drive a bus, or that it gives him a chance to talk to her and advise her. His driving her to that location is rather distant from her sin of living with her boyfriend outside of marriage, so he is not culpable.

 

[Newbie2]

True, if the assumption is that she would have other ways of getting back and forth from the boyfriends. If getting a ride there by the dad was the only way that she could get together with him, that would be a different circumstance.

Still…on the surface there would seem to be a degree of cooperation by dad.

 

[Ender]

I know somebody who’s daughter is living together with her boy-friend without mariage, They have a sexual relation together. Sometimes his daughter is staying for some days at her parents house. Would it be a co-operation in his daughters sin if her father drives his daughter back to her boy-friend???

The father is certainly cooperating in his daughter’s sin; the question is whether he is morally culpable and that is not easy to determine. The book Catholicism and Ethics explains cooperation this way:

*“Material cooperation is that in which the cooperator performs an act which in itself is not wrong, though it is used by the principal agent to help him commit sin.” *This certainly describes the father’s participation.

*“This type of cooperation … is not always wrong. Its morality depends on its proximity to the immoral act itself and whether there is a proportionate reason.”

“Certain material cooperation in an immoral {action} is permissible when a sufficient reason exists.” *Perhaps if the father occasionally has to drive her because he is the only safe alternative this would be acceptable.

*“When material cooperation is frequent a proportionately graver reason is required.” *If the father drives her because he is the most convenient solution then I suspect he would be culpable and especially so if he drives her frequently.

Ender

 

[KinseyMcGuire]

All I know is that I was taught from the age I was taught about sex that I do not have it in my parent’s house unless I’m married to the man. And oddly enough, that has stopped me from going too far on several occasions. I am turning 26 in the spring, and my parents would STILL be incensed if I had extra-martial sex in their house.

I hope that helps the topic, I was a little confused as to what the question was.

 

[Snowball]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states:
1868: Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we “cooperate in them”:

-by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
-by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
-by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
-by protecting evil-doers.

The father, according to Church Doctrine, is cooperating in the sin of the daughter.

 

[Pete_1]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states:
1868: Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we “cooperate in them”:

-by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
-by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
-by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
-by protecting evil-doers.

The father, according to Church Doctrine, is cooperating in the sin of the daughter.

Please explain, according to which point, This one?
-by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;

peace,

 

[Snowball]

In other words…in this case with the daughter-the “sin” needs to be addressed, and the father has an obligation to do the next right thing by his daughter, by NOT driving her to her boyfriends under any circumstance. By continuing to drive her, he’s condoning bad moral behavior. At that point it doesn’t matter what he believes, he still has a part in allowing her to commit sin.

 

[stephen161958]

But what should be the fathers co-operation if he drives his daughter to the nearest railway station so she has to take the train to get back home??