Codependant origination and emptiness

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The meaning is universally understood - like your question! Unless of course it is altered to fit into a specific ideology but then the meaning becomes like plasticine, i.e. arbitrary.
That’s why religion an Catholicism teachs “altered ideology”. And other religions too.
 
I do agree that the best correspondance of the lower gods in my termonology would be angels in yours.

But in Buddhism there are numerous Creator Gods and other Gods that trancede these in mental developmnet.

Just so you know that I am not *only * fooling around.

/Victor
I have met Gods many. In human form of course and am a descendant of one. But I can’t cite a source for that if that is what’s needed.
 
The meaning is universally understood - like your question! Unless of course it is altered to fit into a specific ideology but then the meaning becomes like plasticine, i.e. arbitrary.
There is nothing arbitrary about the teaching of Jesus - unless you reject love, forgiveness and compassion.
 
There is nothing arbitrary about the teaching of Jesus - unless you reject love, forgiveness and compassion.
Jesus has nothing to do with this. It’s the churches added teachings. Such as trying to philosophically explain everything. Including things they know nothing about such as Buddhism for which a valid premise cannot be obtained by them.

Other than what you’ve stated and the sacraments. Jesus has very little to do with christianity (Catholic or protestant) nowadays. Or shortly after his time.
 
Jesus has nothing to do with this. It’s the churches added teachings. Such as trying to philosophically explain everything. Including things they know nothing about such as Buddhism for which a valid premise cannot be obtained by them.
Stop flailing about! 😃

Say something you can document for a change. 🤷
 
Then they are not gods. They aren’t even demons. Whatever they are, you haven’t explained.
The Sanskrit word is “deva”. This comes from the same Indo-European language root as the Latin “deus”. They are non-material living beings.

Here is one of the Buddhist devas describing himself:

“I am the Brahma, the great Brahma, the conqueror, the unconquered, the all-seeing, the subjector of all to his wishes, the omnipotent, the maker, the creator, the supreme, the controller, the one confirmed in the practice of jhana, and father to all that have been and shall be. I have created these other beings.”

– Brahmajala sutta, Digha Nikaya 1.

Does that god sound familiar to you? I have added some emphases to assist.

The gods who are not enlightened are not as good a source of advice as the Buddha. The gods who are enlightened are themselves Buddhas and offer exactly the same advice.

rossum
 
Author: The Buddha. Source: The Tripitaka.

rossum
That is the best. But to knock out the middleman and avoid errors in the translation I would suggest reading it in Pali. Otherwise some of it is translated here accesstoinsight.org/.

The short story is this.

Unskillfull action is based on Greed, Malice and ignorance of the real nature of the world.

All fully Awakened beings such as the Buddha or Arahants possess none of these traits.

I.e. No greed, no Malice, ill intent, anger or hatred. And they are fully aware of the true nature of the world.

Therefore they are not able to act unskillfully. In body, mind nor word.

Peace
Victor
 
There is nothing arbitrary about the teaching of Jesus - unless you reject love, forgiveness and compassion.
The Church was founded by Jesus and its doctrines are based on His teaching which is reflected in His life, death and resurrection.
Such as trying to philosophically explain everything.
Jesus explained that everything is created by our Father in heaven.
Including things they know nothing about such as Buddhism for which a valid premise cannot be obtained by them.
Other than what you’ve stated and the sacraments. Jesus has very little to do with christianity (Catholic or protestant) nowadays. Or shortly after his time.
The Church wouldn’t exist if it hadn’t been instituted by Jesus who appointed St Peter as its leader who has been succeeded by the Bishops of Rome for over two thousand years:
And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed, even in heaven.
Matthew 16:18
 
The Sanskrit word is “deva”. This comes from the same Indo-European language root as the Latin “deus”. They are non-material living beings.

Here is one of the Buddhist devas describing himself:

“I am the Brahma, the great Brahma, the conqueror, the unconquered, the all-seeing, the subjector of all to his wishes, the omnipotent, the maker, the creator, the supreme, the controller, the one confirmed in the practice of jhana, and father to all that have been and shall be. I have created these other beings.”

– Brahmajala sutta, Digha Nikaya 1.

Does that god sound familiar to you? I have added some emphases to assist.

The gods who are not enlightened are not as good a source of advice as the Buddha. The gods who are enlightened are themselves Buddhas and offer exactly the same advice.

rossum
I like the term “Annunaki” when it comes to the gods. And the Nagas. Beings that have bodies but they’re more ethereal than ours. “Let us make man in our image [let us create a primitive worker for the mines and fields.]”. Basically a genetic created slave race. We are a mixture of what I call the gods and something that was here on earth already.
 
The Buddha was enlightened and did not make errors after his enlightenment. However, we do not have the Buddha here today, so the Tripitaka may contain errors.
You said that this fact, that the Buddha did not make errors after his enlightenment, could be found in the Tripitaka. Then you said the Tripitaka may contain errors. So how do you know for a fact that the Buddhas did not make errors after his enlightenment?

Do you have the actual quote from the Tripitaka where it says the Buddha after his enlightenment did not make any errors? :confused:
 
The Buddha was enlightened and did not make errors after his enlightenment. However, we do not have the Buddha here today, so the Tripitaka may contain errors.
Well he is omnipotent. If he isn’t here. Well here in body or not he’s omnipotent. Did he say anything about not allowing errors? I know many of the words told by Shakyamuni were memorized by his followers and years later things could be written down word for word. What memory power he must’ve gave them. Of course he was born knowing 60 or more languages and how to speak and write them fluently. And just as a Bodhassattva from Maitreya’s pureland.
 
You said that this fact, that the Buddha did not make errors after his enlightenment, could be found in the Tripitaka. Then you said the Tripitaka may contain errors. So how do you know for a fact that the Buddhas did not make errors after his enlightenment?
Contrary to what you believe. Something does not become *true *just becasue it is *written down *. ;). But I can respect that as a beginner you want something to hold on to. And it is good that you critically examine what is said. I do that myself all the time. It is Dhamma ABC!

I do not know how Rossum knows but for me I know because I have tried the Dhamma hands on in practise and in every day life. When cultivating the dhamma through practise, contemplation and studiying you gradually get an insight into Nibbana that can not be achieved through mere reading or speculating.

It is like no matter how much you read about God it is only when you find Him in real life and everyday life that you really understand who God is. Do you understand? Have you found God in everyday life yet?
Do you have the actual quote from the Tripitaka where it says the Buddha after his enlightenment did not make any errors? :confused:
Here is one place.

Knowing the world, seeing the highest goal, crossing the ocean,[11] the flood,[12] — Such — [13] his chains broken, unattached without fermentation: The enlightened call him a sage.

or this

unsmeared. Abandoning all, in the ending of craving, released: The enlightened call him a sage.

or this

Strong in discernment, virtuous in his practices, centered, delighting in jhana, mindful, freed from attachments, no constraints :: no fermentations:[6] The enlightened call him a sage.

or this
*
Self-restrained, he does no evil. Young and middle-aged, the sage self-controlled, never angered, he angers none: The enlightened call him a sage.*

from here

accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/snp/snp.1.12.than.html#fnt-6

There are tons of texts describing this. Let me know if you want more.
If you have trouble understanding what is written do not hesitate to ask. It is not a sign of weaknes that you do not “get it” all at once. Even though young people tend to think it is.

Peace!
/Victor
 
You said that this fact, that the Buddha did not make errors after his enlightenment, could be found in the Tripitaka. Then you said the Tripitaka may contain errors. So how do you know for a fact that the Buddhas did not make errors after his enlightenment?
I have never found any errors. Remember that Buddhism is not about belief but about practice. Believing things about the path does no good at all; actually walking the path is what does you good. I have walked a small part of the path and I have not found any errors.

rossum
 
I do not know how Rossum knows but for me I know because I have tried the Dhamma hands on in practise and in every day life. When cultivating the dhamma through practise, contemplation and studiying you gradually get an insight into Nibbana that can not be achieved through mere reading or speculating.
That is the same path that I followed. Buddhism explicitly calls itself a “come and see” (ehipassiko) religion, that you are expected to try for yourself to see if it works. I also tried it and, like you, found that it works.

rossum
 
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